Quick Protein Shake Question

Quick Protein Shake Question

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996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Bad advice that, seriously can't you just have small bowl of natural oats with a bannana sliced into it. Don't need an expensive shake.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Theres no reason why (unless you are banging out a triathlon) you cant work out on an empty stomach. I eat at 10pm and again at 1pm the next day (I dont eat a thing in the mornings until a late lunch) On occasion I'll train weights or cardio at lunch...not having eaten in over 12hrs - and feel great if the session stays under 1hr.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

180 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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tyrewrecker said:
Fozziebear said:
^^^ really? Your pt says protein before training?
Ya
99% of PTs don't know a damn thing, so that's hardly surprising

tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

155 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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pilchardthecat said:
99% of PTs don't know a damn thing, so that's hardly surprising
Really? Whatever he does works for him and fights competitively with it. I did question it when he said it as I thought it was for recovery. Perhaps he is making sure I get enough as my diet isn't as good as it could be

Regiment

2,799 posts

160 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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tyrewrecker said:
Not what my pt says ...
I tend to work out with a good meal in me from 2 hours before and then some fast digesting protein straight after. Recently though, I have been coming home from the gym, eating a tin of tuna, relaxing a couple of hours and then bed. I have never come across advise saying protein should be consumed before rather than after a workout.


GarryA

4,700 posts

165 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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45 mins before my workout I have a protein shake but add carbs (ground oats) for energy, straight after workout I have the same but not as much carbs.


996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Tiggsy said:
Theres no reason why (unless you are banging out a triathlon) you cant work out on an empty stomach. I eat at 10pm and again at 1pm the next day (I dont eat a thing in the mornings until a late lunch) On occasion I'll train weights or cardio at lunch...not having eaten in over 12hrs - and feel great if the session stays under 1hr.
That's fine for you and me but its not the sort of advice someone should be given, hey in the good old days people thought water discipline I.e not drinking fluids during training was fine.

Even if someone just has a bannana those 35 Calories, potassium and increase in blood sugars should in theory aid there training, bearing in mind our circadian rhythm isn't at its best early doors either.



Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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I used to go for runs in the morning. A coffee with maybe a spoonful of sugar was nice.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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I run ultras and I start with 500mls black coffee with 25g butter and 10ml olive oil about an hour before an event. I don't normally eat anything untill 10 miles in, then I hit the first aid station and have cake, biscuits and fluids. Whilst I'm running to the next check point I eat a couple of 9bars and that's it alone with fluids. So in theory I'm running on fat and caffine for 10 miles with any stored fuel and ATP. Now this works for me, but I wouldn't tell any of my clients to do it as I think most would puke, collapse or give up. If your diet is crap your PT should be setting a food diary for you which will help them analysise what you need to give up or eat to help you with your goals. Take it from me, real food and sensible hydration will change your body composition, then you can look at tweaking it to help you grow

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Fozziebear said:
I run ultras and I start with 500mls black coffee with 25g butter and 10ml olive oil...
That taste nice?

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Yes mate, use Kerry gold as its grass fed and 100% olive oil, comes out the bullet blender like a frothy latte. I sometimes add coconut milk for some extra flavour, it also has to be fresh home ground expresso beans for the kick

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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When I get some cash I'm gonna get some coconut oil.
Saw a PT dissolving a lump in some hot water, it smelled lovely!

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Halb said:
When I get some cash I'm gonna get some coconut oil.
Saw a PT dissolving a lump in some hot water, it smelled lovely!
As with everything but the best quality you can get, expect to pay £16-£25 for a jar. Use it to cook, add to drinks and enjoy. I love the stuff.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Fozziebear said:
As with everything but the best quality you can get, expect to pay £16-£25 for a jar. Use it to cook, add to drinks and enjoy. I love the stuff.
I don't cook, but I fancy using it in porridge and drinks.
I was going to look at Holland and Barret?

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Thanks for that.

I say I don't cook and I don't.
But saw this on fb this week and I am gonna try and have a stab at it.

  • *LA Muscle Recipe of The Day – Cheesecake Protein Flapjacks***
These are fantastic to have pre and post workout, in-between meals to increase daily protein in-take and to take with you on the go. Healthy, convenient, great tasting muscle
building treats.

Ingredients:
• 2 egg whites
• 4 ozs fat free cream cheese
• 2 scoops vanilla LA Whey protein powder
• 1 cup fat-free cottage cheese
• 2 cup splenda granular
• 1 tsp vanilla extract
• non-stick cooking spray

Directions:
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
2. In a blender, combine all ingredients and mix well.
3. Spray 8 mini-loaf tins with non-stick spray, and distribute batter evenly.
4. Bake for about 25-30 minutes.
5. When the bars are done, flip them out of the pan onto a sheet of foil, chill and store in the fridge.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Sounds nice, I'd avoid Splenda (do a search on it) sugar is just to sweaten them. The whole low fat/no fat thing is a bit false, have a look at the ingredients and make sure there's no extra additives in there, it normally means preservatives and other unneeded junk

tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

155 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Regiment said:
I have never come across advise saying protein should be consumed before rather than after a workout.
Not rather than but as well as

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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996 sps said:
Tiggsy said:
Theres no reason why (unless you are banging out a triathlon) you cant work out on an empty stomach. I eat at 10pm and again at 1pm the next day (I dont eat a thing in the mornings until a late lunch) On occasion I'll train weights or cardio at lunch...not having eaten in over 12hrs - and feel great if the session stays under 1hr.
That's fine for you and me but its not the sort of advice someone should be given, hey in the good old days people thought water discipline I.e not drinking fluids during training was fine.

Even if someone just has a bannana those 35 Calories, potassium and increase in blood sugars should in theory aid there training, bearing in mind our circadian rhythm isn't at its best early doors either.
Agree, my point wasnt that others should copy - simply that the OP is fine to workout on an empty stomach, as opposed to some of the advice which was "eat a little something first". I.d be very surprised if he's training at a limit where a banana or not will have a significant effect on his session.

BettySwollocks2

630 posts

159 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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I think everyone reacts differently to when they take their shakes. I usually train about 5 in the afternoon and follow the following supplement routine,

MP instant oats with banana or some mixed nuts first thing.
BCAA's around half 9
Protein and Creatine shake at 10.30
high protein lunch at 12.30
BCAA's at 2.30
Taurine at 4.30
Protein and creatine shake post workout.

seems to work for me.