5K to 5 Mile Race

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944fan

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4,962 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I have been running for about 6 months having started on the couch to 5K plan. I currently run 5K 3 times a week taking about 30 minutes. I did a charity 5K last weekend and came 4th.

I am considering entering the Wolverton 5 http://mcs.open.ac.uk/mkac/w5info.htm

Looking at the results from previous years and using the McMillanRuuning.com calculator I look set to come dead last in this race. Am I nutter for considering it?

It is 9 weeks away so time for an intensive training regime but is it a bad idea?

Edited by 944fan on Thursday 20th September 14:48

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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It's only a bad idea if you care about where you finish. I find I usually race better than I train as having people to chase/compete against raises my game.

944fan

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4,962 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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To be honest, given that 6 months ago I couldn't run for 3 minutes without having to stop all I actually care about is finishing the thing! If that's last then so what, someone has to come last!

fk it, I am going to do it. Filling in the form now and writing a cheque.

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Should be easy. It's only 3K more.

Try doing 5 miles straight away. Lower you pace to compensate. If you can't run the entire distance, walk it to recover, then run again.

(If you've gone from sedentary to 5k 3 times a week in 6 months, I bet you can cover this 5m distance at your first attempt)

D1bram

1,500 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I wouldn't worry too much about where you come, as long as you finish.

Also while I think the McMillan calculator is an excellent tool, bear in mind that as a relative beginner you will still be on a very steep improvement curve so will probably find you easily exceed your target.

The last two years I have used the McMillan calculator to estimate my Great North Run time based upon a 10k race the week before. On both occassions I set of on the GNR viewing my predicted time as an upper limit with the aim of bettering it.

First year I beat my estimate by 1minute and this year by a whooping 5minutes.

Like I say, it's a good tool, but certainly don't let it put you off.

Oh and try a 10k run, such a great distance IMO.

SunDiver

780 posts

238 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I've only done a timed run once. It was 10k. I expected to come at the back out of several thousand but I didn't - IIRC I was about in the middle. I did alright at 53m considering I only started running that year - couldn't run 500m initially. Don't underestimate how much the atmosphere and occasion of a run with a decent amount of people will carry you along. You'll be fine and most likely thoroughly enjoy it. Step up half a K every week and do a 5 mile run a week or two before at your own pace so you know what to expect. Don't worry about winning or coming last - just finish it and enjoy it. If you can run 5k in 30m you'll have no problem at all running 5 miles. You also won't be last - I bet you stay inside the 40s.

I keep meaning to do another but I haven't run for ages...!

Edited by SunDiver on Thursday 20th September 21:05

cheeky_chops

1,589 posts

252 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Everyone is different, but my wife thrives on the targets. Started small, 5k then 10k, HM's, liverpool mara last year.

She entered a duathon totally clueless and expected to be dead last after only using a gym bike! She came 4 from last but she has improved on that, moving a 1/3 of the way up the finisher list over the next year(its a competitive field) and last week did a half ironman distance triathlon. Impressive time too for a working 40+mum!

In 9 weeks there is loads of time - try some short speed work, more slow distance(dont over do the miles), loose some weight(?).

Always be looking at your next adventure or challenge. Rome wasnt built in a day but go for it!

944fan

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4,962 posts

186 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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cheeky_chops said:
Everyone is different, but my wife thrives on the targets. Started small, 5k then 10k, HM's, liverpool mara last year.

She entered a duathon totally clueless and expected to be dead last after only using a gym bike! She came 4 from last but she has improved on that, moving a 1/3 of the way up the finisher list over the next year(its a competitive field) and last week did a half ironman distance triathlon. Impressive time too for a working 40+mum!

In 9 weeks there is loads of time - try some short speed work, more slow distance(dont over do the miles), loose some weight(?).

Always be looking at your next adventure or challenge. Rome wasnt built in a day but go for it!
Indeed, I have a lot to loose which was one of the main motivations for taking up running in the first place (lost 1.5 stone already). I'm going to drop the booze for a bit and really focus on the training, hopefully by the time of the race I can loose another stone.

I have found a training plan I am happy with, has a mix of speed, tempo and LSD runs but adds the miles slowly each week.

I think having a definitive end goal in sight helps the motivation than just running for the sake of it.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Thanks for the link, I may enter this too. Based on last years times I would be third from last.

The entry form asks for an English Athletics number, is this needed?

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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CaptainSlow said:
The entry form asks for an English Athletics number, is this needed?
No. Races that offer two entry prices - one for EA/UKA affiliated club-members and one for unattached (usually a couple of pounds more) - require the number from anyone using the affiliated price.

EA like organisers to collect the numbers to determine what ratio of club members actually race etc.

944fan

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186 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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CaptainSlow said:
Thanks for the link, I may enter this too. Based on last years times I would be third from last.

The entry form asks for an English Athletics number, is this needed?
Good point I am not sure. The results indicate that some people are not attached to a club but I am not sure if that means you need a number anyway.

Will try and find out and let you know.

See you at the back then!

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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944fan said:
Good point I am not sure. The results indicate that some people are not attached to a club but I am not sure if that means you need a number anyway.

Will try and find out and let you know.

See you at the back then!
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944fan

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4,962 posts

186 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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I am guessing, based on this ( http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/general-runnin...), if you are saying you are attached to an affiliated club and so are paying the lower fee then you need to give your number to prove you are entitled to the discount.

It certainly doesn't say you have to be affiliated or have a number.

I am going to send me form off later, so if it comes back next week saying you need a number I will let you know.

ETA - Just seen ewenm posts above. Thanks for the info

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Why can no-one differential "lose" and "loose" anymore?

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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mattikake said:
Why can no-one differential "lose" and "loose" anymore?
Do you mean differentiate? hehe

944fan

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4,962 posts

186 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Went for a long run today. Aimed to keep to a slow pace of between 10-11 min/mile. Found it hard to run slowly at the start but soon got in to a nice pace and felt really good. Manage to run the full 5 miles without stopping in 52:33.

I had plenty left at the end and felt like I could go longer or certainly could have increased the pace at the end, but I just wanted to focus on completing it.

The route I took was pretty hilly (321 ft total ascent according to my Garmin) whereas the race course is quite flat, I did have a bit of a hangover though.

Going to aim for a 43 min time in the race.


mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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ewenm said:
Do you mean differentiate? hehe
Oops. Drunken typo!