ADF - A diet that works and is good for your health!
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tyrewrecker said:
Not lost weight
Odd
You haven't seen me on my "normal" days!Odd
Nom nom nom.....
I understand the main point in this is allowing your body to heel/repair as your giving it a break from protein, etc, weight loss being a nice benefit.
I might have lost some weight, but I don't weigh myself, just judge using a mirror and my clothes, I don't think I'm looking any thinner and my clothes fit the same.
Day 5 today and the 2nd "reduced calory" day, for me.
I'm resisting the urge to weigh myself too often but I do feel like I may have dropped a little weight.
I have also just done my 2nd bi-weekly gym visit and am starting to find I can do a bit longer on the treadmill etc and a bit more weight on the machines although this is also part of my general program - gradually increasing reps or weights (or both?).
I am feeling quite hungry atm and only have some soup to look forward to at lunchtime but hey-ho, I guess it will take a little while for my body to get used to these days as I usually eat quite heartily (but mostly healthily).
Anyone else wanna share...?
I'm resisting the urge to weigh myself too often but I do feel like I may have dropped a little weight.
I have also just done my 2nd bi-weekly gym visit and am starting to find I can do a bit longer on the treadmill etc and a bit more weight on the machines although this is also part of my general program - gradually increasing reps or weights (or both?).
I am feeling quite hungry atm and only have some soup to look forward to at lunchtime but hey-ho, I guess it will take a little while for my body to get used to these days as I usually eat quite heartily (but mostly healthily).
Anyone else wanna share...?
It seems that I've been inadvertently doing this for over a year now. When I split up with my wife I knew I needed to lose weight, so decided rather than eating 3 meals a day just because it was 'mealtime', I would eat when I was hungry.
In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
parapaul said:
It seems that I've been inadvertently doing this for over a year now. When I split up with my wife I knew I needed to lose weight, so decided rather than eating 3 meals a day just because it was 'mealtime', I would eat when I was hungry.
In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
Interesting. I am guessing you're choosing the right foods by luck most of the time by the sound of it?In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
For anybody who hasn't seen the Horizon programme it's on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfna7nV7WaM
I've been on the 2/5 day regime since about a week after it was on TV so 2 months now. It's from about 35 mins to the end on the video
I'm 67, 6ft 3", 20st 7lb at the start, 18st 7lb now. Hoping to loose a similar amount again eventually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfna7nV7WaM
I've been on the 2/5 day regime since about a week after it was on TV so 2 months now. It's from about 35 mins to the end on the video
I'm 67, 6ft 3", 20st 7lb at the start, 18st 7lb now. Hoping to loose a similar amount again eventually.
Those posts make interesting reading, thanks guys - it does look like it helps lose weight (which might be expected) but is sustainable over a longer period than "normal" dieting and, subjectively at least, does have a positive impact on health, beyond merely the weight loss.
This is the beginning of week 3 for me and my OH and the 5th day of reduced calories: We have both lost a few pounds and feel quite happy with how things are going. I now weigh less than at any time in the last 3 to 4 years. In another couple of weeks, I will see if the scales at the gym show any reduction in weight / fat etc but the signs so far are positive.
This is the beginning of week 3 for me and my OH and the 5th day of reduced calories: We have both lost a few pounds and feel quite happy with how things are going. I now weigh less than at any time in the last 3 to 4 years. In another couple of weeks, I will see if the scales at the gym show any reduction in weight / fat etc but the signs so far are positive.
Hoofy said:
parapaul said:
It seems that I've been inadvertently doing this for over a year now. When I split up with my wife I knew I needed to lose weight, so decided rather than eating 3 meals a day just because it was 'mealtime', I would eat when I was hungry.
In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
Interesting. I am guessing you're choosing the right foods by luck most of the time by the sound of it?In the space of a couple of weeks it settled into a pattern where some days I would have a small, late breakfast, then not feel hungry until teatime, when another small meal would be enough to get me through till bedtime.
Other days I'm ravenous and will happily eat 3 large meals.
In 12 months, I lost nearly 3 stone, 4 inches off my waist and probably the same from my chest. I feel energetic and healthy, I haven't even had a cold in the last year or so. If this is a recognised way of eating better (or less), then I wholeheartedly recommend it.
I haven't ever felt like I was dieting, quite the opposite in fact. By eating what my body was telling me I needed, rather than what society and habit were dictating, I feel much more in control.
I'm thinking of giving this a go for a few months. But I'm just looking for a few ideas as to what you guys eat on your fast days. I'm thinking that I'd just drink water on these days, probably a low cal weight watchers soup for lunch, and a small chicken fillet with some veg for tea, maybe an apple/banana mid afternoon.
I've already started cutting down on a lot of sugary things I used to consume after reading the fizzy drinks thread a few months ago. I reckon on I do stick to the average of about 2500 cals a day for probably 5 days a week, but fast foods and take aways at the weekend usually push me well over my weekly allowance. As a guide, I'm, 30, 5'10 and about 13'8 stone. I don't really do much exercise, but I'm just starting to try and run 3 or 4 times a week for, usually 1-2 miles a time. I know I can get in more exercise, I just need to push myself a bit harder, and there are opportunities to cut out the crap food too.
Also, if I did a 1 mile run on a fast day, which I'm led to beleive would be around 100 cals burnt, would I still have that to eat on the fast days?
Thanks
I've already started cutting down on a lot of sugary things I used to consume after reading the fizzy drinks thread a few months ago. I reckon on I do stick to the average of about 2500 cals a day for probably 5 days a week, but fast foods and take aways at the weekend usually push me well over my weekly allowance. As a guide, I'm, 30, 5'10 and about 13'8 stone. I don't really do much exercise, but I'm just starting to try and run 3 or 4 times a week for, usually 1-2 miles a time. I know I can get in more exercise, I just need to push myself a bit harder, and there are opportunities to cut out the crap food too.
Also, if I did a 1 mile run on a fast day, which I'm led to beleive would be around 100 cals burnt, would I still have that to eat on the fast days?
Thanks
From what I've heard, you don't eat back the calories. I mean - what I've read doesn't say "eat 600 calories if you're leading a sedentary lifestyle but eat more if you have an active job". The rule is 600 for men, 500 for women.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549
andyjo, what hoofy said ^^^ and you're about right with what you propose to eat. It is actually quite difficult to stick to 600 cals so on a typical day, I have a small bowl of fruit & fibre for breakfast with semi-skimmed milk (c140kcal); half a pot of soup for lunch (c90kcals) and the balance for dinner: Turkey escalope and veg or similar (c370kcals).
On the low-cal days, I only drink water (diet coke?) except for a cup of coffee with s/s milk in the evening.
On the low-cal days, I only drink water (diet coke?) except for a cup of coffee with s/s milk in the evening.
andyjo1982 said:
I'm thinking of giving this a go for a few months. But I'm just looking for a few ideas as to what you guys eat on your fast days. I'm thinking that I'd just drink water on these days, probably a low cal weight watchers soup for lunch, and a small chicken fillet with some veg for tea, maybe an apple/banana mid afternoon.
I have a slice of toasted wholemeal bread + Marmite for breakfast and fish for tea, either poached or done in the oven wrapped in tin foil. If/when I'm peckish during the day I eat tomatoes, peeled carrots or a chunk of cauliflower.Worked for me
Cheers for the replies. I'm not 100% sure when I'm gonna actually start the plan, I know I've got a couple of nights out next week which I know will involve a good few beers, so may well be the end of next week or start of the week after.
I would be very intrested if you other guys who are on this diet will keep us up to date with the results and good luck.
I would be very intrested if you other guys who are on this diet will keep us up to date with the results and good luck.
A brief update:
This morning, I weighed under 16stone for the first time in about 5 or 6 years!
Coming towards the end of week 4 and have pretty much managed to keep to the regime of 600 calories on two non-consecutive days of the week (possibly a little over one day when I went out to lunch with one of my sons).
I have also been going to the gym twice a week except last week when I only managed to get there once.
Not losing weight quite as quickly as Mrs BL (who has gone down a dress size) but I feel I am building a bit more muscle mass which may be offsetting the fat loss. My trousers certainly fit more comfortably and my belt is a notch tighter, too. I will have a second go on the weight / fitness / fatness machine at the gym next week to see if that's the case...
Overall, I feel much fitter and healthier and a mild skin condition which I've had for about 20 years is clearer than it has been for a long while. Coincidence? Possibly. I can now jog and run a couple of kilometres easily and my heart rate afterwards is lower than previously, so it's all good news at the moment
This morning, I weighed under 16stone for the first time in about 5 or 6 years!
Coming towards the end of week 4 and have pretty much managed to keep to the regime of 600 calories on two non-consecutive days of the week (possibly a little over one day when I went out to lunch with one of my sons).
I have also been going to the gym twice a week except last week when I only managed to get there once.
Not losing weight quite as quickly as Mrs BL (who has gone down a dress size) but I feel I am building a bit more muscle mass which may be offsetting the fat loss. My trousers certainly fit more comfortably and my belt is a notch tighter, too. I will have a second go on the weight / fitness / fatness machine at the gym next week to see if that's the case...
Overall, I feel much fitter and healthier and a mild skin condition which I've had for about 20 years is clearer than it has been for a long while. Coincidence? Possibly. I can now jog and run a couple of kilometres easily and my heart rate afterwards is lower than previously, so it's all good news at the moment
I inadvertently ended up having a fast day on Monday. Had a big-ish meal on Sunday evening and didn't feel gungry for breakfast on Monday morning. Then due a combination of things at work I didn't get time for lunch so though nows as good a time as any to try this out, so had a peice of chicken with some green veg for my evenign meal. Ended up having circa 400 cals that day and did a 4 mile run.
I felt pretty good, the next day I did another 4 mile run and I found it hard going, as if I was running on empty almost, this was after taking the dog on a 2 hour walk too.
I've deciced to try a 4 week trial of a on a 5/2 basis and see how it goes. I lost 5.5lbs in the space of 24 hours which isn't really unusual for me as a swing after a good turd and a long run!
I felt pretty good, the next day I did another 4 mile run and I found it hard going, as if I was running on empty almost, this was after taking the dog on a 2 hour walk too.
I've deciced to try a 4 week trial of a on a 5/2 basis and see how it goes. I lost 5.5lbs in the space of 24 hours which isn't really unusual for me as a swing after a good turd and a long run!
Thanks for the comments and encouragement, guys - it does help on the low-cal days when you're feeling a bit peckish...
Hoofy, I'd be interested to see what effect your regime has - please keep us updated.
One thing that is rather disappointing is that, other than the scales / BMI calculator machine at the gym, it's difficult to get a regular check on the other factors like cholesterol levels other than going to your GP for a blood test. Am I right in thinking that? It would be useful to be able to home-check such things, if available at a reasonable cost.
Anyway, I did go back on the scales / BMI machine today and the results were OK but perhaps not quite as good as I'd hoped for at the end of the first month. According to the machine - and I have no idea how accurate it is but offers a comparable set of figures which I'll do on a monthly basis - the results are:
weight loss 5 lbs (2.3kg)
BMI down from 30.7 to 30.0
Body fat down from 31% to 29.5%
Body fat mass down also by 5 lbs (2.3kg)
Meh!
Still, as I said originally, my wife and I are looking to do this 2/5 thing long-term for the hypothesised health benefits, as well as the weight loss. I have lost almost all that weight from round my middle and have toned up quite a bit by maintaining the visits to the gym. We went swimming yesterday and I felt happier with my "physique" than I have for a while.
Mrs BL has lost just over 1/2 stone and gone down a dress size and a bit which is a lot considering her start weight and size - she is very happy!
Anyone else want to share?
Hoofy, I'd be interested to see what effect your regime has - please keep us updated.
One thing that is rather disappointing is that, other than the scales / BMI calculator machine at the gym, it's difficult to get a regular check on the other factors like cholesterol levels other than going to your GP for a blood test. Am I right in thinking that? It would be useful to be able to home-check such things, if available at a reasonable cost.
Anyway, I did go back on the scales / BMI machine today and the results were OK but perhaps not quite as good as I'd hoped for at the end of the first month. According to the machine - and I have no idea how accurate it is but offers a comparable set of figures which I'll do on a monthly basis - the results are:
weight loss 5 lbs (2.3kg)
BMI down from 30.7 to 30.0
Body fat down from 31% to 29.5%
Body fat mass down also by 5 lbs (2.3kg)
Meh!
Still, as I said originally, my wife and I are looking to do this 2/5 thing long-term for the hypothesised health benefits, as well as the weight loss. I have lost almost all that weight from round my middle and have toned up quite a bit by maintaining the visits to the gym. We went swimming yesterday and I felt happier with my "physique" than I have for a while.
Mrs BL has lost just over 1/2 stone and gone down a dress size and a bit which is a lot considering her start weight and size - she is very happy!
Anyone else want to share?
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