Soy or Whey for Muscle Protein Synthesis?
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In short, it's Whey.
http://www.isagenixhealth.net/blog/2012/10/09/soy-...
The cited references seem pretty good, although I still see no references to Somatotypes though. But it does seem Soy is pretty much useless (for older people at least), which means I need to find something else to reccommend to people who hate/can't drink milk...
http://www.isagenixhealth.net/blog/2012/10/09/soy-...
The cited references seem pretty good, although I still see no references to Somatotypes though. But it does seem Soy is pretty much useless (for older people at least), which means I need to find something else to reccommend to people who hate/can't drink milk...
mattikake said:
In short, it's Whey.
http://www.isagenixhealth.net/blog/2012/10/09/soy-...
The cited references seem pretty good, although I still see no references to Somatotypes though. But it does seem Soy is pretty much useless (for older people at least), which means I need to find something else to reccommend to people who hate/can't drink milk...
When you say hate/cant milk do you mean milk plus shake? You can put water in whey shakes too. http://www.isagenixhealth.net/blog/2012/10/09/soy-...
The cited references seem pretty good, although I still see no references to Somatotypes though. But it does seem Soy is pretty much useless (for older people at least), which means I need to find something else to reccommend to people who hate/can't drink milk...
Or do you mean milk based whey protein?
mattikake said:
I mean any form of milk. Actual milk to whey. Not so much because of a Lactose intolerance, just that they don't like milk. So they drink soy milk, which appears to be a waste of time.
I could order them to drink milk, but I try not to force too much on people too soon.
Do they need milk or is that just extra protein source?I could order them to drink milk, but I try not to force too much on people too soon.
Egg whites are good and you can either do it yourself or (I think) lidl do a 1L carton of it for about 4 quid
mattikake said:
Egg white is absorbed too slowly for what is essentially post-workout.
I try to promote more natural stuff to start with. Skimmed milk being a good and easily accessible version of the post-workout stuff. Semi skimmed at all other times like breakfast...
How about some form of shake during workout? If its absorbed slowly maybe a preworkout drink and sup during a workout? Otherwise cant help I try to promote more natural stuff to start with. Skimmed milk being a good and easily accessible version of the post-workout stuff. Semi skimmed at all other times like breakfast...
Unless you google custom made shakes which you can add fast absorbing ingredients?
As I say to clients, there's a reason why mamals feed their young milk - it's to grow and fast. There is no (natural) substitute... and it appears Soy is a complete waste of money and time, reducing your exercise to a waste of time.
I'm just going to have to get inventive about other ways of making milk taste better/different. If you're lactose intolerant then you need to buy the more expensive lactose free stuff.
I'm just going to have to get inventive about other ways of making milk taste better/different. If you're lactose intolerant then you need to buy the more expensive lactose free stuff.
Worth remembering it's only one piece of research though. You can usually find conflicting research if you look!
And not sure I agree with your 'reducing your exercise to a waste of time'. It's not a waste of time exercising without supplementation!
Have you looked into other dairy-free protein supplements such as those based on hemp, pea, egg, rice?
And not sure I agree with your 'reducing your exercise to a waste of time'. It's not a waste of time exercising without supplementation!
Have you looked into other dairy-free protein supplements such as those based on hemp, pea, egg, rice?
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Thursday 25th October 06:38
mattikake said:
johnnyBv8 said:
Worth remembering it's only one piece of research though.
5 independant studies conducted over the last 10 years. Check the references.MyProtein does a vegan shake made up of a combo of different non-dairy sources - might be worth looking at.
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Thursday 25th October 16:45
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