What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?
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Wow, that took an unexpected turn.
Ok, agree on the stability argument, I usually go with trainers for squats etc. My specific experience is bare feet for deadlifting which it appears theres a pretty strong verdict against it.
If you guys are insisting on a thong in the gym, maybe put a towel down first? (just not white).
Ok, agree on the stability argument, I usually go with trainers for squats etc. My specific experience is bare feet for deadlifting which it appears theres a pretty strong verdict against it.
If you guys are insisting on a thong in the gym, maybe put a towel down first? (just not white).
Good chest session today. Took about 30 minutes to do my full bench workout with lots of rest and more volume. Went to incline bench after and my shoulder really wasn't appreciating it, so went to dumbbells instead and got another 2.5kg on my last set of 10.
Sets of 10xbw+10kg dips, superman extensions working down to a bar 30cm off the floor (Smyth machine great for this) and cable pushdowns for triceps. Feeling well worked, tomorrow is going to be sore
Sets of 10xbw+10kg dips, superman extensions working down to a bar 30cm off the floor (Smyth machine great for this) and cable pushdowns for triceps. Feeling well worked, tomorrow is going to be sore
Hoofy said:
I learnt the hard way that normal trainers are bad for lifting - using 40kg DBs for Bulgarian squats! Feel yourself sink into your shoes and the weight starts to distribute in a random direction all whilst you're on one leg. 
I'm thinking about getting some lifting shoes, all the Crossfit chaps wear them. Just done a 12x front squat, 8x overhead push press on the minute workout and with 45kgs you get wobbly as feck with a soft soled trainer on .
dave_s13 said:
Hoofy said:
I learnt the hard way that normal trainers are bad for lifting - using 40kg DBs for Bulgarian squats! Feel yourself sink into your shoes and the weight starts to distribute in a random direction all whilst you're on one leg.
I'm thinking about getting some lifting shoes, all the Crossfit chaps wear them. Just done a 12x front squat, 8x overhead push press on the minute workout and with 45kgs you get wobbly as feck with a soft soled trainer on .
I found £7 Tesco Value trainers with hard soles to be perfect. They lack grip, so if you're doing dynamic work then you might have a problem.
For deadlift and squat variations, they were fine. Deck shoes and espadrilles are also suitable. But if you want to spend £70 on shoes, go ahead.
Art0ir said:
Good chest session today. Took about 30 minutes to do my full bench workout with lots of rest and more volume. Went to incline bench after and my shoulder really wasn't appreciating it, so went to dumbbells instead and got another 2.5kg on my last set of 10.
Sets of 10xbw+10kg dips, superman extensions working down to a bar 30cm off the floor (Smyth machine great for this) and cable pushdowns for triceps. Feeling well worked, tomorrow is going to be sore
So...... what's your moan? Sets of 10xbw+10kg dips, superman extensions working down to a bar 30cm off the floor (Smyth machine great for this) and cable pushdowns for triceps. Feeling well worked, tomorrow is going to be sore
Your shoulder?
Sllight moan, but my friend is getting on my nerves abit.
He's a nice guy and all that. He's been in the gym since he was 17 or so. (he's 30. I'm 27) so has some muscle. I decided upon doing 5x5/stronglifts routine as a means of losing fat (i'm adding cardio after). It seems like a more efficient use of time then doing a 4-day split routine that involves more of a hypertrophy & isolation work. ontop of that I do my 20min cycle eeach way to/from work. He looks at me as if I don't know a single thing and I've listened to some random persons bro science and blindly following that.
I've told him this is what I want to do, any strength benifits from it is a plus. If I get noob gains/muscle then that's a plus. Main thing is its a component towards fat loss + strength. I think he got offended as he decided to just leave without spotting me on my bench press.
He's a nice guy and all that. He's been in the gym since he was 17 or so. (he's 30. I'm 27) so has some muscle. I decided upon doing 5x5/stronglifts routine as a means of losing fat (i'm adding cardio after). It seems like a more efficient use of time then doing a 4-day split routine that involves more of a hypertrophy & isolation work. ontop of that I do my 20min cycle eeach way to/from work. He looks at me as if I don't know a single thing and I've listened to some random persons bro science and blindly following that.
I've told him this is what I want to do, any strength benifits from it is a plus. If I get noob gains/muscle then that's a plus. Main thing is its a component towards fat loss + strength. I think he got offended as he decided to just leave without spotting me on my bench press.
I'm not sure he's even heard of it. He did also believe in having to get a protein shake in within 1 hour of working out otherwise it's a wasted trip. He's under the impression that what I want to do will have me gaining instead of losing fat (which as we know is all dependant on diet). I'm aware the scales can go up due to water retention days after. Doesn't concern me as long as I see the fat going away in the long term.
Thirteen years in his absolute prime - if he had begun with a recognised program like any of the 5x5, starting strength, starr's, etc he would have more than 'some muscle'. The guy clearly has no idea bar what he's read in fitness mags and bro science - you can safely ignore him at the gym.
Follow the program - sounds like you have the right attitude. Best of luck.
Follow the program - sounds like you have the right attitude. Best of luck.
ambuletz said:
I'm not sure he's even heard of it. He did also believe in having to get a protein shake in within 1 hour of working out otherwise it's a wasted trip. He's under the impression that what I want to do will have me gaining instead of losing fat (which as we know is all dependant on diet). I'm aware the scales can go up due to water retention days after. Doesn't concern me as long as I see the fat going away in the long term.
Ha! the golden hour? classic that one and good for him that his unique body can process that protein so quickly. Warnie said:
ambuletz said:
I'm not sure he's even heard of it. He did also believe in having to get a protein shake in within 1 hour of working out otherwise it's a wasted trip. He's under the impression that what I want to do will have me gaining instead of losing fat (which as we know is all dependant on diet). I'm aware the scales can go up due to water retention days after. Doesn't concern me as long as I see the fat going away in the long term.
Ha! the golden hour? classic that one and good for him that his unique body can process that protein so quickly. Warnie said:
ambuletz said:
I'm not sure he's even heard of it. He did also believe in having to get a protein shake in within 1 hour of working out otherwise it's a wasted trip. He's under the impression that what I want to do will have me gaining instead of losing fat (which as we know is all dependant on diet). I'm aware the scales can go up due to water retention days after. Doesn't concern me as long as I see the fat going away in the long term.
Ha! the golden hour? classic that one and good for him that his unique body can process that protein so quickly. goldblum said:
Half an hour after a workout is about right. Also there's no such thing as 'noob gains'. There is greater neural adaptation in a beginner weight trainer but any muscle hypertrophy only occurs for the same reason as a seasoned weightlifter - plenty of rest and exercise that challenges the muscle.
With absolutely no evidence whatsoever I'd have to disagree. 
A complete beginner (with the right diet and exercises) is surely going to experience quicker results than a seasoned gym-goer for 2 reasons;
1. any long-time gym-goer will be familiar with plateaus. To get over them, you shock the body by changing your routine in some way. So surely to somebody with no routine at all, ANY exercising is going to see results quicker than a pro after all, a beginner is experiencing the ultimate plateau, no?
2. Being a complete noob means the muscles have MUCH further to go before they hit their metaphorical peak. You can't deny that the longer you go to the gym, the slower the gains appear, the weight increases on the bar become harder and harder to get. So if you go back to the other end i.e. "the start", then surely that's when gains & weight improvements are at the quickest?
You're right that they happen for the same reasons, noob or pro, but I don't think "noob gains" are a figment of someone's imagination.
Centurion07 said:
goldblum said:
Half an hour after a workout is about right. Also there's no such thing as 'noob gains'. There is greater neural adaptation in a beginner weight trainer but any muscle hypertrophy only occurs for the same reason as a seasoned weightlifter - plenty of rest and exercise that challenges the muscle.
With absolutely no evidence whatsoever I'd have to disagree. A complete beginner (with the right diet and exercises) is surely going to experience quicker results than a seasoned gym-goer for 2 reasons;
1. any long-time gym-goer will be familiar with plateaus. To get over them, you shock the body by changing your routine in some way. So surely to somebody with no routine at all, ANY exercising is going to see results quicker than a pro after all, a beginner is experiencing the ultimate plateau, no?
2. Being a complete noob means the muscles have MUCH further to go before they hit their metaphorical peak. You can't deny that the longer you go to the gym, the slower the gains appear, the weight increases on the bar become harder and harder to get. So if you go back to the other end i.e. "the start", then surely that's when gains & weight improvements are at the quickest?
You're right that they happen for the same reasons, noob or pro, but I don't think "noob gains" are a figment of someone's imagination.
Let's not do the 'no evidence' thing. Just go and look it up from somewhere credible.
Edited by goldblum on Thursday 27th November 20:54
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