What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?

[Hoofy]

13m said:

A belief that an anorexic girl is going to hog the 5kg plates is not a good enough reason by the way.

I think you got away with that.

[Hoofy]

13m said:

Changing the subject a bit - do you have free weights and if so how do you stop them getting nicked?

That's the first thing I thought.

[Thankyou4calling]

In answer to the above.

I run gyms, they aren't hospitals and I don't employ health care proffesionals.

Gyms are not dangerous places and nor is working out, playing rugby, squash or ski ing is far, far more dangerous and it isn't necessary to get past any eagle eyed staff to do them.

By taking on any responsibility for anybodys health you then take on responsibility for everybodies health so we don't.

All members have to complete a HCS (Health commitment statement) most do this on line and will never be seen before, during or after doing it, it is entirely there responsibility.

Same as pure gym, same as anytime fitness, same as the gym group.

As regards price, yes they are cheap, wayyyyyyyyyyyy too cheap. Unfortunately the advent of budget health Clubs has meant that something has to give and that has been the service levels customers used to enjoy.

Prices are now lower than they have ever been. When I got into the business a normal membership was £35 - £45 a month and a £50 joining fee. People happily paid it.

Now, it's half that and the only person winning is the customer.

With ref the cross fit type exercise question, the same answers apply, not an issue.

The gym/club of course must comply with all legislation but staff aren't medical practitioners.

It's also not necessary to have any recognised qualifications to work in, own or run a gym, it isn't a regulated industry.

Any how, I'm off for a workout, perks of the job. I'll look out for visible signs of 'roid use and make sure to advise on the customers cycle (and I don't mean racing or hybrid)

Edited by Thankyou4calling on Friday 26th August 13:28

Edited by Thankyou4calling on Friday 26th August 13:37

[Hoofy]

Thankyou4calling said:

Any how, I'm off for a workout, perks of the job. I'll look out for visible signs of 'roid use and make sure to advise on the customers cycle (and I don't mean racing or hybrid)

Brave. I would never give advice to a woman about her menstrual cycle.

[Calza]

Jez m said:

People obsessed with getting a protein shake down their neck's 30 seconds after finishing a workout.. FFS.. it can wait till you get home / back to work, it literally won't make any difference to you or your recovery but it will mean that there isn't a nasty mess in water station where you've spilt some powder or on the floor by said water station or worse still, in the changing room where you've shaken the shaker only to realise the lid isn't on properly so now there are splatters of it all over the floor, wall's and lockers. Not to mention discarded packets of protein mix, empty tub's etc..

I'm normally pretty shakey after the gym so getting some carbs in ASAP helps me calm down a little. I have no idea how people manage to always pour f**king powder everywhere though, so I'll side with you on that!

[Thankyou4calling]

Hoofy said:

Brave. I would never give advice to a woman about her menstrual cycle.

Ha ah. I wasn't actually saying i give advice on this matter.

I'm saying (suggesting) gym users as well as visitors to Marks and Spencer, Wetherspoons and Butlins are using drugs, smoking, drinking, over working, stressing blah blah.

It's nothing to do with me, we don't judge, we don't advise, we don't look at people and assume.

Edited by Thankyou4calling on Friday 26th August 14:52

[popeyewhite]

Thankyou4calling said:

I run gyms, they aren't hospitals and I don't employ health care professionals.

Sure I'm looking at the practices of council run and spit/sawdust privately run gyms. Seems totally different to your business model: Private gyms are normally run by the types who train seriously themselves and have some sort of competitive b/bing/powerlifting past and take a personal interest in most who train there. Council gyms in my area (Manchester) have a comprehensive duty of care policy.

Thankyou4calling said:

Gyms are not dangerous places

Anywhere you have free weights, Oly bars, racks, benches, leg press machines, etc some fool will injure themselves. Funnily enough most injuries I've witnessed have happened to time served lifters. If it's not happened in one of your premises yet you're doing well. The difference between skiing, Rugby etc and gym use is you don't own the ski slope or the rugby pitch so you can't be found negligent.

Thankyou4calling said:

By taking on any responsibility for anybodys health you then take on responsibility for everybodies health so we don't.

So what? Very few actually get injured.

[egor110]

dave_s13 said:

I can fully see your point in a gym where the client turns up and finds a room full of gear and gets on with it of their own volition. With a formal introduction and waiver signing session obvisouly. What's your view on a gym where you turn up and do a prescribed class that can involve anything from doing simple press ups to overhead snatch to climbing 20ft up a rope (getting up is ok, getting down can be a bit hairy). I'm thinking of the CrossFit type model here btw where you have a class of 5-15 punters and a coach to supervise things.

In this case you are almost "forced" into doing a movement that may not suit your body shape or movement patterns hence opening you up to a higher risk of injury. I'm wondering if there is any case law about where a punter has successfully sued that sort of gym after hurting themselves seriously.

With the crossfit they'd teach them the power lift moves using a plastic pipe , then move onto the metal bar bell minus weights when everyones happy there lifting properly.

If say they had a issue where they couldn't do a certain lift because of a injury then you could change it to something else or scale the weight down.

At the end of the day it's down to the punter if there going to do stty lifts to try and keep up or do the lifts properly , if they want to compete though they'd come a cropper as none of the stty lifts would actually count.

[ambuletz]

had two encounters yesterday at peak time (5pm). the weedy teenager with 3 strands on his upper lip for a moustache doing curls in the squat rack swaying back and forth. Then after he left 2 lads started doing squats, narrow stance, and going so low you'd think they were using a squat toilet. To my right was someone deadlifting at least 170kg and just moved onto something a machine instead of bothering to take off his plates.

[V8mate]

ambuletz said:

Then after he left 2 lads started doing squats, narrow stance, and going so low you'd think they were using a squat toilet.

Is that a bad thing?

I always start a squat routine with a few warm ups of 60kg, squatting right down to 'African squat' level, pause, and then push back up. Feels like a good warm-up, as it covers the full range of the joints.

Then I load the bar up and carry on with 'normal' parallel squats.

Should I avoid warming up like that?

[Halb]

otolith said:

Hard. And realistically, I suppose they'd find somewhere else. All the same, I'd find it hard watching someone using a gym I owned to literally kill themselves.

Yip. If it was my gym, it wouldn't be about the cash. I'd intervene. Decent PTs I know have the ability to do it in a non-obtrusive way.

[Hoofy]

ambuletz said:

To my right was someone deadlifting at least 170kg and just moved onto something a machine instead of bothering to take off his plates.

Maybe he looked at you and thought it would be an easy warm up for your set?

[Thankyou4calling]

I started a thread in "Sports" asking who would win the Olympia if anyone cares to contribute.

[ambuletz]

I've nothing wrong with squatting deep. I do it, especially when warming up. But these looked verrry low, as if his butt was touching his heels.

Hoofy said:

ambuletz said:

To my right was someone deadlifting at least 170kg and just moved onto something a machine instead of bothering to take off his plates.

Maybe he looked at you and thought it would be an easy warm up for your set?

welp! I wish. the most I've done is 1x3 110kg.

[Zod]

V8mate said:

Hoofy said:

smiffy180 said:

This is me
I have a pair of shoes for overhead, a pair of shoes for deadlifts/squats.
A belt for deadlifts
A belt for squats
A belt for overhead
Wrist wraps for overhead/bench
Figure 8 straps for deadlifts
Normal straps for heavy pull downs if needed.
Chalk
Liquid chalk
Knee sleeves for most of the above
Elbow sleeves for when needed
A deadlift suit (if I'm using it for that session)
A bottle of water
A bottle containing intra workout

I do 3 compound movements a session, soon to be 4 on my peak program starting next month.

A bag is my only option

Edited by smiffy180 on Thursday 25th August 15:47

Sounds like you need a bloody wheelbarrow!

For his belly

A deadlift suit?

[Halb]

ambuletz said:

To my right was someone deadlifting at least 170kg and just moved onto something a machine instead of bothering to take off his plates.

That's annoying. Ban for life!

[Hoofy]

Zod said:

V8mate said:

Hoofy said:

smiffy180 said:

This is me
I have a pair of shoes for overhead, a pair of shoes for deadlifts/squats.
A belt for deadlifts
A belt for squats
A belt for overhead
Wrist wraps for overhead/bench
Figure 8 straps for deadlifts
Normal straps for heavy pull downs if needed.
Chalk
Liquid chalk
Knee sleeves for most of the above
Elbow sleeves for when needed
A deadlift suit (if I'm using it for that session)
A bottle of water
A bottle containing intra workout

I do 3 compound movements a session, soon to be 4 on my peak program starting next month.

A bag is my only option

Edited by smiffy180 on Thursday 25th August 15:47

Sounds like you need a bloody wheelbarrow!

For his belly

A deadlift suit?

I wonder if he mutters, "Get away from her, you bh!" after putting on the suit.

[Hoofy]

ambuletz said:

I've nothing wrong with squatting deep. I do it, especially when warming up. But these looked verrry low, as if his butt was touching his heels.

Hoofy said:

ambuletz said:

To my right was someone deadlifting at least 170kg and just moved onto something a machine instead of bothering to take off his plates.

Maybe he looked at you and thought it would be an easy warm up for your set?

welp! I wish. the most I've done is 1x3 110kg.

I tried 170kg the other day and it was like the bar was bolted to the floor.

[Zod]

Hoofy said:

Zod said:

V8mate said:

Hoofy said:

smiffy180 said:

This is me
I have a pair of shoes for overhead, a pair of shoes for deadlifts/squats.
A belt for deadlifts
A belt for squats
A belt for overhead
Wrist wraps for overhead/bench
Figure 8 straps for deadlifts
Normal straps for heavy pull downs if needed.
Chalk
Liquid chalk
Knee sleeves for most of the above
Elbow sleeves for when needed
A deadlift suit (if I'm using it for that session)
A bottle of water
A bottle containing intra workout

I do 3 compound movements a session, soon to be 4 on my peak program starting next month.

A bag is my only option

Edited by smiffy180 on Thursday 25th August 15:47

Sounds like you need a bloody wheelbarrow!

For his belly

A deadlift suit?

I wonder if he mutters, "Get away from her, you bh!" after putting on the suit.

It seems that you can also buy a squat suit and a bench suit!

Just imagine changing suit as you move from deadlifts to the squat rack!

[V8mate]

Zod said:

Hoofy said:

Zod said:

V8mate said:

Hoofy said:

smiffy180 said:

This is me
I have a pair of shoes for overhead, a pair of shoes for deadlifts/squats.
A belt for deadlifts
A belt for squats
A belt for overhead
Wrist wraps for overhead/bench
Figure 8 straps for deadlifts
Normal straps for heavy pull downs if needed.
Chalk
Liquid chalk
Knee sleeves for most of the above
Elbow sleeves for when needed
A deadlift suit (if I'm using it for that session)
A bottle of water
A bottle containing intra workout

I do 3 compound movements a session, soon to be 4 on my peak program starting next month.

A bag is my only option

Edited by smiffy180 on Thursday 25th August 15:47

Sounds like you need a bloody wheelbarrow!

For his belly

A deadlift suit?

I wonder if he mutters, "Get away from her, you bh!" after putting on the suit.

It seems that you can also buy a squat suit and a bench suit!

Just imagine changing suit as you move from deadlifts to the squat rack!

... and your lunch falling all about the place as you struggle between outfits