What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?

What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?

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chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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TheJimi said:
Goes the other way too - I know plenty of guys who look tremendous, yet don't do a great deal in the way of heavy compound stuff.

Edit: clearly, simply hammering the arms isn't gonna get you anywhere fast, but equally, you don't HAVE to do heavy bench, squat, deads etc in order to look good.



Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 9th April 14:25
The guys that already look great can afford to 'sculpt' minor muscles. I think that for guys who are clearly just starting out, curls etc. should be the last thing on the list.

Regarding your edited comment, of course, no-one has to do heavy anything, but they certainly do help. At least from my experience. I love mixing hypertrophy stuff and power moves in each session, best of both worlds. (For me, at least)

oceanview

1,511 posts

132 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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TheJimi said:
Goes the other way too - I know plenty of guys who look tremendous, yet don't do a great deal in the way of heavy compound stuff.

Edit: clearly, simply hammering the arms isn't gonna get you anywhere fast, but equally, you don't HAVE to do heavy bench, squat, deads etc in order to look good.



Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 9th April 14:25
You're always going to have some people with "better" genetics who look pretty good from the start where as others have to try much harder.

And not every one who uses the gym wants/can look like next months cover model (what with the popularity of running and the weedy look!)

mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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oceanview said:
TheJimi said:
Goes the other way too - I know plenty of guys who look tremendous, yet don't do a great deal in the way of heavy compound stuff.

Edit: clearly, simply hammering the arms isn't gonna get you anywhere fast, but equally, you don't HAVE to do heavy bench, squat, deads etc in order to look good.



Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 9th April 14:25
You're always going to have some people with "better" genetics who look pretty good from the start where as others have to try much harder.

And not every one who uses the gym wants/can look like next months cover model (what with the popularity of running and the weedy look!)
WHAT!??!

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

popeyewhite

19,941 posts

121 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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oceanview said:
You're always going to have some people with "better" genetics who look pretty good from the start where as others have to try much harder.

And not every one who uses the gym wants/can look like next months cover model (what with the popularity of running and the weedy look!)
Cycling chic: Passable upper body but non-existent legs. I guess it's whatever makes you happy, but it must take a lot of effort to develop the upper body at the same time as pushing Strava times biggrin



ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Cyclists are sometimes muscular, even in their legs. Running is a different matter. One way trip to looking old and ill for men and women.

So

26,295 posts

223 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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ORD said:
Cyclists are sometimes muscular, even in their legs. Running is a different matter. One way trip to looking old and ill for men and women.
You say running makes one look old? Do you mean that from an injury perspective?

I cannot run anymore due to repeated injuries. Most runners I know are either injured, have just been injured or are about to be injured.

Hoofy

76,384 posts

283 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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popeyewhite said:
oceanview said:
You're always going to have some people with "better" genetics who look pretty good from the start where as others have to try much harder.

And not every one who uses the gym wants/can look like next months cover model (what with the popularity of running and the weedy look!)
Cycling chic: Passable upper body but non-existent legs. I guess it's whatever makes you happy, but it must take a lot of effort to develop the upper body at the same time as pushing Strava times biggrin
Passable? Most of the power rangers round here have 12 year old girls' physiques.

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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So said:
You say running makes one look old? Do you mean that from an injury perspective?

I cannot run anymore due to repeated injuries. Most runners I know are either injured, have just been injured or are about to be injured.
Haggard faces. Frail bodies. 30 year olds who look 50 are pretty standard.

popeyewhite

19,941 posts

121 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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ORD said:
Cyclists are sometimes muscular, even in their legs.
You must have bumped into Chris Hoy.

ORD said:
Running is a different matter. One way trip to looking old and ill for men and women.
Distance running you mean. Not sure about ill but they definitely look old. All the weather/sun causes wrinkles and low bf makes them look drawn IMO. However like true addicts the psychological and physical addiction results in instant denial if this is ever pointed out. My gf is nearly upon her 100 marathon and any suggestion this amount of running might not be good for her results in a furious argument and the cold shoulder for a week. Sadly she now definitely looks beyond her years but won't have any of it. Nice backside though. smile

popeyewhite

19,941 posts

121 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Hoofy said:
Passable? Most of the power rangers round here have 12 year old girls' physiques.
Maybe I was a bit too kind... .

TheJimi

25,008 posts

244 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Hoofy said:
Passable? Most of the power rangers round here have 12 year old girls' physiques.
Hey Hoofster, pleased to hear you've finally found somewhere you fit in smile

Hoofy

76,384 posts

283 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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TheJimi said:
Hoofy said:
Passable? Most of the power rangers round here have 12 year old girls' physiques.
Hey Hoofster, pleased to hear you've finally found somewhere you fit in smile
hehe

J4CKO

41,623 posts

201 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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ORD said:
So said:
You say running makes one look old? Do you mean that from an injury perspective?

I cannot run anymore due to repeated injuries. Most runners I know are either injured, have just been injured or are about to be injured.
Haggard faces. Frail bodies. 30 year olds who look 50 are pretty standard.
Yeah, would agree, it is pretty tough on the body, I think its an identity and for those into it, they cant rest until they have run, it does seem to get under their skin (might explain it), I think we should all be able to run a mile in a reasonable time, just to be able to run if needed, most of the population nowadays would be better as water borne mammals, I think sometimes the bar for fitness is set high and people think they need to achieve that, so dont bother.

Some of the guys at work run and are always in physio, or "getting back into it", then another injury, one guy I reckon is the offspring of a seventies Italian Supercar he is so unreliable, goes like the clappers for one day, then six months of being fixed.

Ok, some manage fine but I think it is perhaps a less is more pursuit, it gets so competitive, marathons and stuff, we arent really designed for that, it is why we invented cars ffs !


TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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ORD said:
Haggard faces. Frail bodies. 30 year olds who look 50 are pretty standard.
I've noticed that as well. I have a mate who has fairly recently started taking his running very seriously. He already had very little fat on him, but he now says he's lost a further 2 stone. Not a very good look at all really. There's also a girl who lives on our estate and every day she must run into town and back with her buggy with the child in it. She's clearly very fit but to be honest she looks like she's been on the chemo for the last year or so.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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J4CKO said:
Ok, some manage fine but I think it is perhaps a less is more pursuit, it gets so competitive, marathons and stuff, we arent really designed for that, it is why we invented cars ffs !
Agreed, humans are traditionally hunter gatherers. Back in the day, humans would have scavenged for food and set traps. The only time they would run is away from a bigger predator in all likelihood or to briefly run after pray. This is short bursts of sprinting, and not the turgid long distance jogs that seem so popular nowadays. If we were designed for running, surely we would have 4 legs? Here's a question for you: have you ever seen a jogger that looks like they are actually enjoying it? biggrin

StangGT

3,925 posts

270 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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TameRacingDriver said:
Agreed, humans are traditionally hunter gatherers. Back in the day, humans would have scavenged for food and set traps. The only time they would run is away from a bigger predator in all likelihood or to briefly run after pray. This is short bursts of sprinting, and not the turgid long distance jogs that seem so popular nowadays. If we were designed for running, surely we would have 4 legs? Here's a question for you: have you ever seen a jogger that looks like they are actually enjoying it? biggrin
However, humans are one of the most efficient long distance runners in the animal kingdom

http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/sports/g...

we probably used this ability to slowly wear down our prey

FunkyNige

8,890 posts

276 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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TameRacingDriver said:
J4CKO said:
Ok, some manage fine but I think it is perhaps a less is more pursuit, it gets so competitive, marathons and stuff, we arent really designed for that, it is why we invented cars ffs !
Agreed, humans are traditionally hunter gatherers. Back in the day, humans would have scavenged for food and set traps. The only time they would run is away from a bigger predator in all likelihood or to briefly run after pray. This is short bursts of sprinting, and not the turgid long distance jogs that seem so popular nowadays. If we were designed for running, surely we would have 4 legs? Here's a question for you: have you ever seen a jogger that looks like they are actually enjoying it? biggrin
Without wanting to go too much off topic, in the days before we had the ability to set traps the theory goes that we did run after things until they died, known as 'persistence hunting'

http://www.myrunningtips.com/persistence-hunting.h...
https://www.outsideonline.com/1996281/does-persist...

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Oh well I stand corrected. I still hate running though!

popeyewhite

19,941 posts

121 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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StangGT said:
we probably used this ability to slowly wear down our prey
I think the idea is we incapacitate it through injury first. I imagine an uninjured deer would take some time to outrun smile