Give Up Smoking or Die Trying

Give Up Smoking or Die Trying

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Slink

2,947 posts

173 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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well its a bit harder for me to give up, I am allergic to the patches as they give me a rash.

the gum, lozenges and other tablet I cannot take as they mess my guts up.

but I am not allergic to actually smokable nicotine funnily enough.


BUT, so far I have given up, for a massive 10 mins, going on 11 wink

am going to try to give up V soon, perhaps tomoro when I smoke the last of the packet.

Vespid

2,985 posts

177 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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For all those who are finding it too difficult to quit.

Have you considered Vaping?

OK you still inhale nicotine but you do not inhale tar, carbon monoxide, various carcinogens and many other poisons.

It is an instant switch from smoking to vaping for most people. Myself, my wife, my step-daughter, my son, my brother-in-law and several work colleagues have not touched tobacco from the day they got their vaping kit.

Once you have broken the tobacco dependency you can work on reducing the nicotine in the vapour (or ulimately quitting).

But the thing is, while you are working on that, you are not smoking tobacco.

I started on 36mg nicotine e-liquid, then dropped to 24mg nicotine, my next order will be for 12mg.

There is a comprehensive PH thread on the subject here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Good vaping kit here: http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/vape-escape-vision-100...

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Vespid, you read my mind...

4 months for me using the vape escape vision 900 kit.

Bit of initial outlay, then really low running costs.

It arrived at work, I charged it up and started using it whenever I fancied a fag. After a few days, I lit up one of the last two that was in my pocket. After three pulls I nearly threw up, and threw it away. Not had one since, even with the missus still smoking...

I genuinely believe no willpower is involved. It's a perfect replacement, in that it works, tastes good, and you can occupy yourself being all techy if you wish.

No plan to go through withdrawal now, just no need. I've basically discovered a 'healthy' nicotine delivery method...
Good luck all.

AndyT77

1,755 posts

163 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Sway said:
Vespid, you read my mind...

4 months for me using the vape escape vision 900 kit.

Bit of initial outlay, then really low running costs.

It arrived at work, I charged it up and started using it whenever I fancied a fag. After a few days, I lit up one of the last two that was in my pocket. After three pulls I nearly threw up, and threw it away. Not had one since, even with the missus still smoking...

I genuinely believe no willpower is involved. It's a perfect replacement, in that it works, tastes good, and you can occupy yourself being all techy if you wish.

No plan to go through withdrawal now, just no need. I've basically discovered a 'healthy' nicotine delivery method...
Good luck all.
So long as you're happy still being a drug addict?

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Without the massively emotive language, yes.

I am addicted to nicotine. My use has massively reduced using the ecig, but I actually enjoy using it. So, having already dropped the strength twice, it's more than likelyI'll end up vaping zero nic fluid.

If not, so be it. Nicotine itself is about as toxic as caffeine. It's all the other st caused by burning plants that's really harmful, and the cost of efluid compared to patches/lozenges/gum is miniscule...

But hey, each to their own. I'm very happy with how it's worked out.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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I don't think he is being emotive. Long term use of nrt just distils smoking down in to a pure drug addiction. It's not even a 'good' drug, lol. The only benefit you get from it will be to alleviate the withdrawal symptoms themselves. The withdrawal symptoms you're alleviating come from the nrt your taking to alleviate the withdrawal symptoms.

Like smoking, it's completely pointless.

Edited by dern on Sunday 3rd February 13:49

TRB

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2,309 posts

138 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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I've found previously when giving up (and yes appreciate I'm a true addict as I return to the product, be it months or even years later) that I reduce the amount of gum (in my case) I'm using over time. Last year I gave up for 8 months on the gum and over the weeks the amount I used reduced to nothing. Much easier than reducing the number of cigarettes gradually.

This is a positive thread to try and help people, myself included, get off the stuff. I gave up cold turkey years ago and lasted 8 years, I don't have that same will-power today.

AndyT77

1,755 posts

163 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Sway said:
Without the massively emotive language, yes.

I am addicted to nicotine. My use has massively reduced using the ecig, but I actually enjoy using it. So, having already dropped the strength twice, it's more than likelyI'll end up vaping zero nic fluid.

If not, so be it. Nicotine itself is about as toxic as caffeine. It's all the other st caused by burning plants that's really harmful, and the cost of efluid compared to patches/lozenges/gum is miniscule...

But hey, each to their own. I'm very happy with how it's worked out.
I hope i didn't offend, my post was meant to be a little tongue in cheek, but i forgot the smiley!

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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No worries fella, sorry if I was a bit sensitive.

You're right, I'm not directly treating the addiction.

However, despite no benefit to taking nicotine, I have none of the effects of withdrawal, with none of the negative sides.

As said, I'm naturally and systematically reducing my nicotine intake, so fairly sure within 6 months I'll still be vaping, but with zero nicotine.

Vespid

2,985 posts

177 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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dern said:
Like smoking, it's completely pointless.
Yes, that's very true, but then so is drinking decaf coffee.

All I know is that it is a great feeling to have given up tobacco.

I am working on reducing my nicotine intake.

I see it as progress smile

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Vespid said:
Yes, that's very true, but then so is drinking decaf coffee.

All I know is that it is a great feeling to have given up tobacco.

I am working on reducing my nicotine intake.

I see it as progress smile
confused

Anyway, cool, whatever works for you.

Cheers

richardxjr

7,561 posts

211 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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I forgot the first month passed the other day smile

Almost a 30-year smoker this was my second attempt at stopping, virtually cold turkey. (Last time was a few years ago, group hypnotherapy which was also painless and instant)

Apart from the mad exercise (cycling), I changed another couple of things on the day I stopped. I would always get my first smoking urge of the day in the bathroom, so I changed my shower/hair/shave products to those smelling completely different. Also started eating breakfast.

These things all helped me (esp the cycling). I'm mindful not to get ahead of myself after just 5 weeks ... the last time it all worked easily and well ... for 3 months. Then one stressful thing at work, a colleague offered a cig, and back to square one.

That was a few years back though, and I now have no family, friends or colleagues who still smoke, other areas of my life are less stressful too, so I am hopeful this time will be a success.

Keep up the good efforts thumbup


clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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New to the thread, I really do need to get a grip on this nicotine reduction malarky. Even though its blindingly obvious, it was the one thing that held back my rowing - gave up the daytime/work cigarettes over 3 months back and found some massive gains. Also found that somehow I wasn't any more irritable than I was before. Got fairly decent gains from no smoking during the day - 10k row dropped by a minute, 2k is now irritatingly close to 7 minutes.

Initially swapped nicotine for lots of tea. I do mean LOTS. After a couple of days I was literally buzzing. Then swapped over to decaf ...

And smoking is whats holding me back from a sub 7 minute 2k row atm, so the intention is to replace one addiction with another thats just a teeny bit better for me.

TRB

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2,309 posts

138 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Struggling last few days - not with staying off the ciggies, but just the sheer volume of junk I'm eating. Today I thought I'd have breakfast to see if that helped, but seemed to kick-start my metabolism and I also ate my lunch before 9.30 and then popped out to the shop for 'proper' lunch.

E31Shrew

5,922 posts

193 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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TRB said:
Struggling last few days - not with staying off the ciggies, but just the sheer volume of junk I'm eating. Today I thought I'd have breakfast to see if that helped, but seemed to kick-start my metabolism and I also ate my lunch before 9.30 and then popped out to the shop for 'proper' lunch.
I seem to have the same problem. I changed my morning routine, as before, I would just sit outside before getting showered, quaff 4 fags and a couple of coffees before getting ready for work.
I now dive out of bed straight in to the bathroom then get dressed and shoot out of the house to work. Problem is, I don't have any breakfast or lunch, but when I get home, just strip all cupboards of any grub that I can get my hands on.
Problem is that I always seem to get a stronger desire to smoke after I've eaten, so with my pea sized brain, feel better if I dont eat! Pillock. Consequently I seem to be piling on the pounds with my erratic eating in the evening.
Need to start exercising to kick start the weight loss. Otherwise all pretty good really. Only having a couple of drags on the ecig in the evening now as I feel it's doing more harm that good, and I really want to kick that too. Wearing 1/2 patch from 0800 until 1800 in the evening which seems to work for me so I'll give that another couple of months at least. Oh...and £300.00 saved in a month, but have spent about £25.00 on patches and a couple of ecigs.

thenortherner

1,502 posts

164 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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I'm still on the wagon, just half a cig since Xmas day. My willpower is still strong.

Definitely feeling better for not smoking. I've been mountain biking and circuit training a lot over the past few weeks and it's getting easier each time. I wasn't unfit before, but feel even better now.

Plus I don't stink!

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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I'm a week and a half in (cold turkey) and have been struggling a bit the last couple of days. The withdrawal was relatively bad the first 2 or 3 days, then got a lot better. For the last couple of days though I've been feeling distinctly fuzzy and have trouble concentrating on stuff at about this time of day accompanied by an overwhelming desire to do harm wink

I definitely don't want a cigarette and don't have that mental struggle but definitely don't feel 'normal'.

Hopefully this will pass soon.

Cheers,

Mark

TRB

Original Poster:

2,309 posts

138 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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The thread goes quiet, so do we presume we've all stayed off the ciggies or are back on them?

I'm somewhere in between. Still struggling a bit here. Not smoking at all at work (office days), never have smoked at home, smoke on and off in the man-cave (my achilles heel), struggling when away at events. I can go days and don't get cravings or even think about it, but occasionally really fancy a smoke (I know!). Not sure if I've conquered the habit in that I only smoke here and there or if I'm still an addict. I guess I know the answer!

£220 in my jar for 'money normally wasted on smoking' but a few days with no cash added where I've lapsed. Can't seem to shake the last remnants of the habit.

E31Shrew

5,922 posts

193 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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41 days and £370.00 in the jar. My first real test last Friday as out on the lash with 6 friends and 5 smoked. The odd pang, but still strong enough to stay in the boozer while they went outside for a fix.
Toughest time for me seems to be weekends, as at work, nobody else smokes and there's no time to even think about it.
Keep it up!

thenortherner

1,502 posts

164 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Still no cigs and booze for me either, though I did have a bizarre dream a few days ago of a faceless man giving me cigarettes.