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evo4a

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737 posts

182 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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So far I have....
Concept 2
pull up bar
Dip bars
Bench press
2 x dumbells
Selection of resistance bands
press up handles
swiss ball
ankle weights (inner tube band threaded through plate for leg raises)
Heavy bag

On order is a treadmill, reebok z9

I'm 47, 5'10", 11st 3lbs and in pretty good shape for my age, probably about 15% body fat (like to reduce that a bit if possible)

What would you buy next, is there something definitely missing. Please bear in mind I have a recurring issue with a slipped disc, which is usually brought on by compression, i.e squatting, dead lifts etc so I need to steer away from these things. Back is much better since getting fitter.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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To open this up so some of the more experienced members can help you;

- What are your goals? I can see you are trying to lose a little weight but from the equipment selection I'd hazard you want to gain some muscle too?
- What does your training/diet look like?

Because that will help you define if you need anything else but on the face of it, it looks like you've got a lot of bases covered.

Lee

evo4a

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737 posts

182 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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diet.

breakfast oatmeal with skimmed milk
Lunch tuna or chichen breasts with BBq sauce
Apples and fruit as snacks
dinner Pretty standard meal but low on fat normally
supper Chicken breast or oatmeal

No booze.

Not a lot of fun but I'm used to it now, been on it for about 3 months, happy to break it once a week as a treat.

Training
3k average / day on concept2
1/2hr- 1hr, 5x week on rest as circuits

Probably bulked up enough on muscle now, really want to get rid of the last few pounds, I have visible abs now smile

Last few pounds are so hard, think age is a factor

Edited by evo4a on Monday 7th January 23:15


Edited by evo4a on Monday 7th January 23:16

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Have you done all of the usual calorie counting VS calories required?

Also have you gone below 15% before?

Lee

GBDG

896 posts

155 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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If it was me

1.Kettle bell

2. Squat rack if you have the space and inclination

3. Cable machine. Some body partscan be hard to train without one.

Ordinary chap really know his stuff so take his advice smile

evo4a

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Monday 7th January 2013
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Probably below 15% about 10 years ago, did loads of running.

evo4a

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737 posts

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Monday 7th January 2013
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I was thinking about either kettle bell or bulgarian bag (v. pricey)
Squat rack would do my back in I think.

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Bike - better for HIIT, VO2Max than a treadmill or rower, particularly if you work out on your own.

Chain - for db plates, allows adding weight to your pullups and dips.

Does your bench decline and incline? If not, get one that does. You can hit so much more with a simple incline and decline. Get one with a situp station the doubles as a quad ext/ham curls. You can get a good bench that does all that for about £150.

GBDG

896 posts

155 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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mattikake said:
Bike - better for HIIT, VO2Max than a treadmill or rower, particularly if you work out on your own.

Does your bench decline and incline? If not, get one that does. You can hit so much more with a simple incline and decline. Get one with a situp station the doubles as a quad ext/ham curls. You can get a good bench that does all that for about £150.

A rower is about as good as it gets for HIIT, uses a large number of different muscles and is very easy to adjust pace.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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evo4a said:
Probably below 15% about 10 years ago, did loads of running.
Thanks GBDG although I'd place quite a lot of folk a long way above me in knowledge terms. Lost_BMW, Goldblum, Mattikake, PVAPour etc. I'm just a interested enthusiast ex fat dude!

Sorry, have you checked how many calories you are consuming vs required?

And have you recently stop being able to lose weight or is it continuing slowly?

evo4a

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737 posts

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Monday 7th January 2013
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mattikake said:
Chain - for db plates, allows adding weight to your pullups and dips.

Does your bench decline and incline? If not, get one that does. You can hit so much more with a simple incline and decline. Get one with a situp station the doubles as a quad ext/ham curls. You can get a good bench that does all that for about £150.
Chain .... good one
Bench.... no mine is flat, any recommendations?

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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GBDG said:
mattikake said:
Bike - better for HIIT, VO2Max than a treadmill or rower, particularly if you work out on your own.

Does your bench decline and incline? If not, get one that does. You can hit so much more with a simple incline and decline. Get one with a situp station the doubles as a quad ext/ham curls. You can get a good bench that does all that for about £150.

A rower is about as good as it gets for HIIT, uses a large number of different muscles and is very easy to adjust pace.
True, but with a rower your hands are always occupied, a bike can be hands free particularly a recumbant one. Makes adjusting levels as well as pace, length of interval and taking measurements much easier, IMO. But that is about all, otherwise, yeah I agree a rower is better for maxing.

evo4a

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737 posts

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Monday 7th January 2013
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The diet is a bh.
I haven't done calorie count, but a weight has been fairly stable for about 3 months, I feel muscle is replacing fat.
I have abs, however I still have some lower belly fat, this is what I want to lose.
I really think I'd have a tough time eating less frown

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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evo4a said:
Bench.... no mine is flat, any recommendations?
Something like this:- http://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/utility_benche...

With an interchangable leg developer like the option below.

Damn I'm good. biggrin

Edited by mattikake on Monday 7th January 23:56

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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evo4a said:
The diet is a bh.
I haven't done calorie count, but a weight has been fairly stable for about 3 months, I feel muscle is replacing fat.
I have abs, however I still have some lower belly fat, this is what I want to lose.
I really think I'd have a tough time eating less frown
If you don't count calories, are stagnant and largely eat the same amount every week then pushing harder with stuff like HIIT will help. Otherwise, reduce the calorie intake by 10% and see what happens if everything else remains the same.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Hoofy said:
evo4a said:
The diet is a bh.
I haven't done calorie count, but a weight has been fairly stable for about 3 months, I feel muscle is replacing fat.
I have abs, however I still have some lower belly fat, this is what I want to lose.
I really think I'd have a tough time eating less frown
If you don't count calories, are stagnant and largely eat the same amount every week then pushing harder with stuff like HIIT will help. Otherwise, reduce the calorie intake by 10% and see what happens if everything else remains the same.
yes

evo4a

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Monday 7th January 2013
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10% reduction....fk me ... OK, if I die it's your fault smile

Hoofy

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283 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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evo4a said:
10% reduction....fk me ... OK, if I die it's your fault smile
You won't die with just a 10%. But as I say - you don't know how much you're eating so your only option is to train harder.

evo4a

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737 posts

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Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Hoofy said:
so your only option is to train harder.
Train harder.... fk me... OK, if I die it's your fault smile

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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evo4a said:
Hoofy said:
so your only option is to train harder.
Train harder.... fk me... OK, if I die it's your fault smile
Actually, "train smarter" is a better phrase. Can't guarantee you won't die still, though.