Calories vs Muscles Growth Qustion.

Calories vs Muscles Growth Qustion.

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essexplumber

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7,751 posts

174 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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As I've now lost most of my fat and I'm now trying to build muscle I got to wondering about wether the calories I lose doing cardio are being wasted. I know that you need an element of CV training to keep the veins and heart strong to supply the muscles but when your trying to build do you lessen the CV?


Or is it purely the protien that is required for muscle growth?


ETA sorry about the missing "e".

Edited by essexplumber on Friday 11th January 20:34

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Interesting question and I think you'll get 10 different answers from 10 different people.

In the end I think if you are consuming enough calories and resting enough then you should still grow.

In my very simple world after reading lots of studies and different approaches from different people, I believe for maximum muscle growth you need enough calories/protein and aim for the maximum rest periods when not lifting so as not to take anything away from the recovery window.

Personally these days, I'd be quite happy to sacrifice some growth potential to do some CV given the health benefits.

I've tried different approaches and have created some threads a year or so back on my experiments. The problem with maximizing growth by dropping CV is that if you gain weight from the excess calories need to grow you can;

- Take in less calories - Thereby potentially slowing growth
- Do CV
- Or get fatter whilst getting strong (see my thread!)

If you choose to get fatter then you've got to spend more time in a calorie deficit to lose the fat which would take longer than if you grew a bit slower but did CV to keep the fat levels down and on top of that you are probably going to get weaker in a calorie deficit and most likely lose some of the muscle.

I follow Dogcrapp and he believes in eating huge amount of food, training very often and using CV to keep the weight under control which makes a lot of sense too me.



Edited by Ordinary_Chap on Friday 11th January 23:44

goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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If you have the energy to lift weights the calories are not being wasted. For muscle hypertrophy you keep forcing muscle adaptation, rest properly and eat a balanced diet.You do not need CV training.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Ordinary_Chap said:
Interesting question and I think you'll get 20 different answers from 10 different people.
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Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Halb said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Interesting question and I think you'll get 20 different answers from 10 different people.
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Haha, very true!

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goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Only 18 to go! smile

smiffy180

6,018 posts

151 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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I would say aslong as you are getting enough protein in and decent carbs you'll grow smile

bonkbonk

159 posts

157 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Could swap your cardio out for high intensity finishers at the end of your strength workouts. Will have the desired effect on your cardiovascular system while being less calorifically draining than an hour or two of jogging/spinning.

Do something around 5 minutes long, be it tabata (20 on, 10 off sprint cardio) or a barbell/dumbell/bodyweight/kettlebell complex of some without any rest (10 bw deadlifts, 10 pressups, 10 burpees, repeat) to finish yourself off at the end of a session.