The Supplement Science thread

The Supplement Science thread

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SmoothCriminal

5,047 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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Didn't manage to use the original jacked but used the new one and much prefer craze for focus and that extra motivation to do an extra few reps.

I swear by the stuff.

LostBMW

12,955 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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mattikake said:
LostBMW said:
Is it just me being subconsciously cynical, but does his face say "HGH" to anyone? Just something about it that doesn't look 'right'?
lol I was thinking the exact same thing. He looks 35yo. Easy. A healthy 35, but 35 nonetheless.

Oh those Russains.
It wasn't just the apparent age - I've seen the pictures of him before and others and in all of them there is something about his jaw line, brow etc. that shouts "HGH" to me.

Halb

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53,012 posts

182 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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One of the dietary supplements that interests me is nitrate.
Beetroots get most of the blurb, but celery, lettuce and spinach are high as well.


http://www.ptonthenet.com/articles/Beetroot-juice-...

Halb

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53,012 posts

182 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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http://schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/creatine-ho...

Creatine article on Schwarzenegger.com.

ringerz

139 posts

225 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22990615

Nice list of sides for Glutamine, lots a st for debatable benefits.

mattikake

5,057 posts

198 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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ringerz said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22990615

Nice list of sides for Glutamine, lots a st for debatable benefits.
Hmmm... 40g a day? But Glutamic acid is abundant in all sources of protein. If you eat 140g of chicken you must surely have easily consumed 40g of Glutamic acid with it.

"GLN shares the transporters with other amino acids" this is the key thing. Overload on one AA and you limit your ability to take on others, like Valine, Leucine and Isoleucine.

I guess they just talking L-Glutamine already hydrolised.

AnonSpoilsport

12,955 posts

175 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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mattikake said:
ringerz said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22990615

Nice list of sides for Glutamine, lots a st for debatable benefits.
Hmmm... 40g a day? But Glutamic acid is abundant in all sources of protein. If you eat 140g of chicken you must surely have easily consumed 40g of Glutamic acid with it.

"GLN shares the transporters with other amino acids" this is the key thing. Overload on one AA and you limit your ability to take on others, like Valine, Leucine and Isoleucine.

I guess they just talking L-Glutamine already hydrolised.
What the heck does this mean: "Some people consume chronically glutamine (GLN) in high quantities (~40 g/d)". 'Bad' Glutamine or bad English?

Has anyone on here who takes in a large amount of protein on a daily basis (a level well in excess of stated norms or needs) experienced any issues with acidosis et cetera? I've never been as consistently high as several posters describe, let alone bodybuilders - rarely above 200g and often around 100g day - yet my doctor is convinced that the gout I suffered from is largely down to protein metabolism etc.

When my levels are higher then I do notice differences, e.g colouration of urine, symptoms of arthritis and gout presented and so on, especially if my water intake is low, which it often is.

He doubts alcohol is the cause but I know from lots of experience that that must be the main culprit, so have been teetotal since late 2009.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

185 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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muon said:
Dude, 22 and looking like that? Even if he had god-like genetics, trained HARD since he was 16 and had a ridiculously good diet, I don’t think he’d look like that. Whatever it is, it isn’t natural. I’m not hating at all as that’s what some people aspire to look like, ‘whatever’ it takes.

As you say, his face doesn’t look like he’s 22, but I would eat my own arm off if he’s natural.

Another question is, could ANYONE look like that naturally? Probably yes, but I would have thought it would take longer than however long he has been training properly for and it would be a 1 in a million chance. Only my opinion mind you.

The thing is, if you make something your job… career.. sport… way to earn a living, then you would be stupid NOT to take any PED’s if you can get away with it.

People want to see monsters. Hence why WSM don’t test for anabolics either.
No one looking like that or even remotely close (at any age) will be natural. Pretty much no one is natty anymore. Even fitness/magazine cover models have nearly all used gear in some shape or form.

The general public are BREATHTAKINGLY naive about steroids. All top rugby players use steroids/GH (just look at the jawlines on some of them!) along with all top athletes in pretty much every physically demanding discipline. This is fact and to assume otherwise is laughably naive. Sorry have gone off on a tangent...just a wee rant to no one in particular! laugh

AnonSpoilsport

12,955 posts

175 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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HonestIago said:
No one looking like that or even remotely close (at any age) will be natural. Pretty much no one is natty anymore. Even fitness/magazine cover models have nearly all used gear in some shape or form.

The general public are BREATHTAKINGLY naive about steroids. All top rugby players use steroids/GH (just look at the jawlines on some of them!) along with all top athletes in pretty much every physically demanding discipline. This is fact and to assume otherwise is laughably naive. Sorry have gone off on a tangent...just a wee rant to no one in particular! laugh
'Roid rage?

Halb

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53,012 posts

182 months

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

182 months

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th March 2014
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Bicarbonate of soda effects on running.
http://www.brianmac.co.uk/articles/scni9a5.htm

Beetroot juice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23640589
http://www.runnersworld.com/nutrition-for-runners/...

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 11th March 18:50

Digger

14,588 posts

190 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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Just bumping this just so I can find it later biggrin and I'll update this post with my current supplementation and hopefully get some feedback.

Ruskie

3,982 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Personally I love taking a pre workout. I'm still trying different ones to get the best balance. I work shifts so like today I finished work at 7am, did school run, bed for 9.30 till 1.30. Pre workout then gym and got a good session despite lack of sleep!

Digger

14,588 posts

190 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Going to give some ZMA a go! Will take an hour or so before bed.

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

182 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Digger said:
Going to give some ZMA a go! Will take an hour or so before bed.
Notice anything?

Digger

14,588 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Halb said:
Notice anything?
When the ZMA's arrived I noticed I had an MP jar with plenty of zinc and magnesium capsules, so I've been using up some of those. I'll start with the ZMA's next week now you've reminded me. smile

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

182 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Digger said:
When the ZMA's arrived I noticed I had an MP jar with plenty of zinc and magnesium capsules, so I've been using up some of those. I'll start with the ZMA's next week now you've reminded me. smile
Did you reply to this earlier?

Digger

14,588 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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What's the current advice on cycling Creatine and BCAA's?

Obviously Google is my friend but, as usual, thought it best to keep knowledge within PH.

I've cycled Creatine twice since the beginning of the year but stayed on BCAA's throughout, but current "wisdom" suggests you don't need to cycle, as they are naturally occurring. My PT suggests cycling BCAA's every 12 weeks.

Thoughts?

Digger

14,588 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Halb said:
Digger said:
When the ZMA's arrived I noticed I had an MP jar with plenty of zinc and magnesium capsules, so I've been using up some of those. I'll start with the ZMA's next week now you've reminded me. smile
Did you reply to this earlier?
Yes, typo corrected, thus deleted and replaced, but didn't realise Halb had since read it. wink