Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly

Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly

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Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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PS.

Oh, and when the time comes there'll be no black at my funeral, loads of good music and laughs - and the hearse will NOT drive slowly!

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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My big brother is gone.
The bloke that taught me to fish.
The bloke that got me into motorbikes.
The bloke that I looked up to as I was growing up.
What a waste.
We thought he was doing so well , consultant couldn't believe how the tumour had shrunk after just one chemo session , he was due to start Radio and chemo today . Cardiac Arrest last night; first responder there within 3 minutes, 2 crews from secam did all they could but had to give up after more than an hour of working on him .
I guess we will find out if it was caused by the cancer or just another cruel twist in his too short life.
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Boshly

2,776 posts

237 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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mad4amanda said:
My big brother is gone.
The bloke that taught me to fish.
The bloke that got me into motorbikes.
The bloke that I looked up to as I was growing up.
What a waste.
We thought he was doing so well , consultant couldn't believe how the tumour had shrunk after just one chemo session , he was due to start Radio and chemo today . Cardiac Arrest last night; first responder there within 3 minutes, 2 crews from secam did all they could but had to give up after more than an hour of working on him .
I guess we will find out if it was caused by the cancer or just another cruel twist in his too short life.
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So sorry to hear that. My sincere condolences.

Andy

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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To Pugsey and Mad4 - thoughts are with you both.

Pugsey - all the best getting through the list smile

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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mad4amanda said:
My big brother is gone.
The bloke that taught me to fish.
The bloke that got me into motorbikes.
The bloke that I looked up to as I was growing up.
What a waste.
We thought he was doing so well , consultant couldn't believe how the tumour had shrunk after just one chemo session , he was due to start Radio and chemo today . Cardiac Arrest last night; first responder there within 3 minutes, 2 crews from secam did all they could but had to give up after more than an hour of working on him .
I guess we will find out if it was caused by the cancer or just another cruel twist in his too short life.
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Sad news. but remember those good times. No help currently I know but focus on them when you can.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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garyhun said:
Pugsey - all the best getting through the list smile
Appreciated. I'll do my best!yes

Outliar

116 posts

138 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Hey Pugsey, read your bike search post and came here. Some terrible stories here, lots of pain, but as always with illness it also brings out the best of people's humanity.

I was lucky with my cancer, it was testicular (considered curable, one of the few cancers that is) and stage 1. I caught it early. Please everyone, don't be manly about symptoms that worry you, just go see the doctor. Mine spread after the tumour was removed, so I had to have chemo (horrid) but it did the job. And it changed me.

For people like me, who get to experience the shock, have a rough time, but then get better... it is close to a blessing. The material world of consumption fades away into its rightful place, you discover who your real friends are, you truly appreciate the wonder of life, and you see clearly for the first time in a long time. I've changed how I eat, I exercise regularly (I don't take health or life for granted as I used to), I love just being with the kids (mentally present as well as physically!).

Of course, normality returns but I hold on tight to the whole experience and take myself back there from time to time... Not a morbid thing, just trying to hold on to that insight about 'real' life and what living is. So thanks for sharing everyone.

The stoics advise regular contemplation of death, to keep life in perspective, and also death. I think in our modern times, in the West at least, we have made death taboo. Many of us live our daily lives in denial of the fact we will die, when in fact accepting it (as cancer forces you to) is actually liberating. Paradoxically, facing death makes us feel even more alive. Perhaps that's why, at least in part, us bikers love bikes. It's not reckless, it's actually about living life without the handbrake permanently on. Living in fear of death is not living to the full.

Well, hadn't meant to write all this crap... but for what it's worth I think Pugsey you're on the right path. All the best to everyone fighting cancer...


Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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So much bad sad news makes me feel guilty to say I had my 2 monthly MOT check yesterday, scope down the nose and throat and I got a clear bill of health

Mrs Lost has her meeting next Tuesday to find out what needs doing post surgery , hoping Chemo is not necessary

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Lost soul said:
So much bad sad news makes me feel guilty to say I had my 2 monthly MOT check yesterday, scope down the nose and throat and I got a clear bill of health

Mrs Lost has her meeting next Tuesday to find out what needs doing post surgery , hoping Chemo is not necessary
Good for you and her.
I don't think any victims ever resent people who get lucky do they? It doesn't seem to be that sort of thing.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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mad4amanda said:
My big brother is gone.
The bloke that taught me to fish.
The bloke that got me into motorbikes.
The bloke that I looked up to as I was growing up.
What a waste.
We thought he was doing so well , consultant couldn't believe how the tumour had shrunk after just one chemo session , he was due to start Radio and chemo today . Cardiac Arrest last night; first responder there within 3 minutes, 2 crews from secam did all they could but had to give up after more than an hour of working on him .
I guess we will find out if it was caused by the cancer or just another cruel twist in his too short life.
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Jesus, that is fking horrific. To be doing so well and then be taken by something completely different.
Sympathies.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
Good for you and her.
I don't think any victims ever resent people who get lucky do they? It doesn't seem to be that sort of thing.
Thanks Mate you are right , at least I certainly would not I guess if anything it gives you a bit of a boost

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Lost soul said:
So much bad sad news makes me feel guilty to say I had my 2 monthly MOT check yesterday, scope down the nose and throat and I got a clear bill of health

Mrs Lost has her meeting next Tuesday to find out what needs doing post surgery , hoping Chemo is not necessary
Great news and fingers crossed for Mrs L. Do not feel guilty - every 'beat the bugger' story lifts the rest of us.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Outliar said:
Hey Pugsey, read your bike search post and came here. Some terrible stories here, lots of pain, but as always with illness it also brings out the best of people's humanity.

I was lucky with my cancer, it was testicular (considered curable, one of the few cancers that is) and stage 1. I caught it early. Please everyone, don't be manly about symptoms that worry you, just go see the doctor. Mine spread after the tumour was removed, so I had to have chemo (horrid) but it did the job. And it changed me.

For people like me, who get to experience the shock, have a rough time, but then get better... it is close to a blessing. The material world of consumption fades away into its rightful place, you discover who your real friends are, you truly appreciate the wonder of life, and you see clearly for the first time in a long time. I've changed how I eat, I exercise regularly (I don't take health or life for granted as I used to), I love just being with the kids (mentally present as well as physically!).

Of course, normality returns but I hold on tight to the whole experience and take myself back there from time to time... Not a morbid thing, just trying to hold on to that insight about 'real' life and what living is. So thanks for sharing everyone.

The stoics advise regular contemplation of death, to keep life in perspective, and also death. I think in our modern times, in the West at least, we have made death taboo. Many of us live our daily lives in denial of the fact we will die, when in fact accepting it (as cancer forces you to) is actually liberating. Paradoxically, facing death makes us feel even more alive. Perhaps that's why, at least in part, us bikers love bikes. It's not reckless, it's actually about living life without the handbrake permanently on. Living in fear of death is not living to the full.

Well, hadn't meant to write all this crap... but for what it's worth I think Pugsey you're on the right path. All the best to everyone fighting cancer...
Cheers matey. Superb post - you'll have seen from that bike thread how it's changed me.

EVERYONE - read Outliar's post a couple of times.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Pugsey said:
Outliar said:
Please everyone, don't be manly about symptoms that worry you, just go see the doctor.
EVERYONE - read Outliar's post a couple of times.
I had been to the GP 3 times last May blood tests and so on and was poo pooed by him in fact he told me " it is not cancer go and enjoy your life" in the end he set up an appointment with a haematologist for late August , why a haematologist I have no idea as it was a small lump in my throat so don't just go to the GP and accept what they tell you , when I moved I had a new GP who immediately referred me to a ENT clinic who scoped me and straight away said it was a cancer


fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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^ Is it Hodgkins? Thats the boat I'm on at the moment. Nowhere near as bad as most of the stories on here but still sucks a LOT.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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fridaypassion said:
^ Is it Hodgkins? Thats the boat I'm on at the moment. Nowhere near as bad as most of the stories on here but still sucks a LOT.
No it was squamous cell , the primary was in my tonsils but it had spread to my tongue and lymph gland , I am informed its a pretty good one to get if you have to get it at all

fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Good luck with it! Any Chemo to have or radiotherapy?

My case is a bit bizarre I'm on watch and wait despite diagnosis.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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fridaypassion said:
Good luck with it! Any Chemo to have or radiotherapy?

My case is a bit bizarre I'm on watch and wait despite diagnosis.
Thanks Mate

I had some pretty extensive surgery chemo and radiotherapy , I was expecting the surgery to be the hard part but the radio was by far the worst part of it

I finished treatment in December and am still having problems with
eating - taste all due to the radio , it is one hell of a cure but at least it is a cure biggrin

Chisinau

131 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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My thoughts are with everyone here......my Grandfather died of Leukaemia after getting over lung cancer, my grandmother then died of a stomach tumour a few years later. My aunt battled breast cancer, only to die of a heart attack, and just last week my uncle's wife died after a very long battle with cancer. The funeral was yesterday.....

fk you cancer you motherfking ish fker, evil .....

Outliar

116 posts

138 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Lost soul said:
Pugsey said:
Outliar said:
Please everyone, don't be manly about symptoms that worry you, just go see the doctor.
EVERYONE - read Outliar's post a couple of times.
I had been to the GP 3 times last May blood tests and so on and was poo pooed by him in fact he told me " it is not cancer go and enjoy your life" in the end he set up an appointment with a haematologist for late August , why a haematologist I have no idea as it was a small lump in my throat so don't just go to the GP and accept what they tell you , when I moved I had a new GP who immediately referred me to a ENT clinic who scoped me and straight away said it was a cancer
Sorry to hear this story, it seems from hat I've read that unfortunately your experience is not a rarity. But I would not want to put people off seeing GPs. The main point is to take responsibility and listen to your body.

In my case, I found the tumour in the shower and knew immediately something was wrong. One of my testicles was rock solid, it freaked me out. I didn't go to the GP, I went straight to A&E. A doctor examined me, and immediately booked an ultrasound a day later. From there within a week or so I was on the operating table. Clearly most tumour a are internal so not so obvious to spot, and regularly checking ourselves and noticing lumps or changes to the body is not a habit many men have. Myself included: the tumour had been there for some time, as evidenced by its size.

Anyway good luck mate.