What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

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didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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TheJimi said:
Tempted to suggest that's probably not indicative of your technique per-se. That was a balls-to-the-wall lift!

Chances are your upper back is straight(er) on lighter loads, no?
No, it's comfiest for me to pull like this. A few people do- Andy Bolton & Konstantīns Konstantinovs are notables.

It's impossible to keep your upper back pulled back at heavier loads, so round it.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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ORD said:
Google 'The effects of deadlifts on the spinal discs'. In short, bad form seems OK until, all of a sudden, it really isn't!
It's not bad form though, my lower back/core is braced extremely tightly and is neutral. Just a different way of pulling.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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didelydoo said:
No, it's comfiest for me to pull like this. A few people do- Andy Bolton & Konstant?ns Konstantinovs are notables.

It's impossible to keep your upper back pulled back at heavier loads, so round it.
300kg is just immense from my POV! I aim to pull 200kg by the end of this year! hehe

I think that if someone who has not had any or very little training tried to DL a near max, they would be in trouble, spine-wise, as the surrounding muscle wouldn't know how to cope. But for someone like you, who has been training for years, has built up enough strength and muscle to help massively offset any perceived bad form when going for PB's. I am not even sure perfect form is possible when attempting weights you have never tried before.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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chris watton said:
I find the Deadlift (for reps) is the most exhausting exercise and the one that takes the longest to recover from - even if I think I have recovered, when I try again, it's clear that I have not. All other exercises, no matter how much I have hammered them out is sets, reps and weight, are fine to do again 48 hours later. Not Deadlifts, though.
Yeah, this week I realised I have rota'd deadlifts in on two different days. Well my 4 x 10 yesterday put paid to my lil run today, my lower back told me to give it a rest and I stopped after only 1 k.
Deadlifts have now been removed from that day. biggrin

TheJimi

24,977 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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I've been experimenting with doing deads and rackpulls in the same week. Seems to be working ok.

I *could* deadlift from the floor twice in a week, in the assumption that the volume and/or weight wasn't too daft, but going balls to the wall twice in one week - bad idea!

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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I am doing this separate 16 week DL routine, to hopefully get me up to a fairly pain free 195kg. The first few weeks is quite easy, and I have been condensing the routine twice per week (Monday and Friday), rather than one session per week as advised, as it starts at 5x5 with 130 and 3x5 with 140, which I did last week. yesterday was 5x1 with 150, and the next is 5x5 with 140 (and it keep going up.
I think I shall now start doing what The Jimi does, and do the DL's on Monday, and Rack Pulls (or Good Mornings) on Friday from now on.

One good thing about doing DL's before Rows is that the Rows seem really easy and light after!

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Thursday Turbo 1hour (2x20).

Tuesday Turbo 1 hour. (5,4,3,2,1)

Today. 48km Zone 2 ride with 700m climbing.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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didley- how's the cut going mate? you must be coming together by now. I've done my usual, clashed carbs and lacking in energy at the moment. Will post a couple of pics when I'm finished.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Burwood said:
didley- how's the cut going mate? you must be coming together by now. I've done my usual, clashed carbs and lacking in energy at the moment. Will post a couple of pics when I'm finished.
Back bulking again- too small when I cut, so stopped about 3 weeks back as I knew i'd not be where I wanted- nice rebound gains though, got bigger and leaner since. Back to doing strong man now, so growing to do!

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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PT session today. I like that he does things slightly differently from me.

Squats - 4 x 8 @ 100kg (slow eccentrics and very unpleasant)
OHP - 4 x 10 @ 30 kg (same rep style and surprising hard given how light)
Machine rows (no idea on weight)
Jump lunges 4 x 20 with DB
Dips & curls

Best squats for a while now - form was absolutely fine despite lifting more than I have for a good few months.

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Pull ups and press ups yesterday at an easy pace, hate doing nothing biggrin

Tonight, recovery ride on the road, just a steady pace, 36km 360m of climbing with nearly 32kph average. Legs felt ok, but I think I've got some sort of stomach bug - fizzy gravy just before I left.

May do some pull ups and press ups later, we'll see. Reasonably pleased with my condition - see below. smile

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPTEKTqAVed/?taken-by=...

Johnny

9,652 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Good work as always chaps.

Legs today

Squats 2x10@60, 2x8@80, 3x5@100 2x3@120, 1x3, 1x1@140, 2x5@100kg
Leg press 5x10@200kg
Superset:
Stiff Leg Deads 5x10@60kg/ EZ Bar Curls 5x20 (Just the bar)

9.3 miles on the CX Bike

Squat form didn't feel great at 140 so left it at that. Added in some curls as my bicep is really sore and just wanted to see how it held up. Lovely little ride after.


didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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This morning>

Squat: 5x 180, 10x 180kg
GHR: 5 sets against bands
Ham curls: 3 sets

Going to build my squat back up, I'll be happy when I can do 200 for 10 again. Banded GHR are ace!

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Today:

Box Squats - 7x12-5 reps
Incline Bench Press - 5x12-8 reps
Power Clean - 8x2 reps
Wide grip Upright Row - 5x12-6 reps
Wide grip Pull Up (chest to bar) - 4x12-8 reps
BB BOR (reverse grip) - 4x12-8 reps

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Hard circuit today.
Dumbbell Push Press 30 reps
Pendlay Row 25
Front Squat 35
Pull-Up 20

Star Jumps
As many as possible in 75 seconds
KB Swings
As many as possible in 45 seconds

Deadlift 20
DB Incline Bench Press 35
High Pull 30
Barbell Lunges 15p/l
49 mins...tough, very tough
from here.
https://www.t-nation.com/training/lose-fat-stay-st...

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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2hrs on the turbo (zwifting} leg shredding.

Digger

14,663 posts

191 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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mcelliott said:
2hrs on the turbo (zwifting} leg shredding.
WTaF . . . . No press-ups, dips, or pull-ups??! Really?

smile

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Digger said:
mcelliott said:
2hrs on the turbo (zwifting} leg shredding.
WTaF . . . . No press-ups, dips, or pull-ups??! Really?

smile
I know, I didn't do them - it's so bad! I think I've got real issues with my training, think I might actually be a bit nutty. I mean what sort of fool would attempt this?

https://www.strava.com/activities/578544370

SpunkyGlory

2,322 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Squats - 4x5
Military Press - 4x5
Deadlifts - 4x5

Incline Bench 3x12 SS chin ups 3x8

Still loving this Madcow programme but heavy deadlifts are noticeably more difficult after squats.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Training as of late has been all over..... Until tonight biggrin

With everything feeling like it's gone backwards no thanks to a bug, I decided to risk upping the weight and rep my old 1rm.
Really happy to hit 150kg x2 full reps + 2 soft lockouts/near enough a rep laugh that I know I can hit, just didn't because I pushed up and forwards instead of up and back due to fear of dropping the bar on a floor that will go through.

8-12 weeks of building up (not for this particular lift) and will give it a go again at hopefully a much heavier weight biggrin

https://youtu.be/kZQan7TwAyg
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