What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

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mcelliott

8,646 posts

181 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Mainly hilly rides on the bike this week, average speeds between 31 and 33 kph. Brutal weather conditions though, makes you strong!

Gym also today, relative highlights are a new bench pb - started out at 110kg for 5 reps, 115 for the same, then 120 for 4 reps. Planning some decent rides over the weekend, then some running next week too.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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0500 leg session, great, loads of stuff. Legs starting to take shape and some detail coming through, need to lean out more though to finish them off, drop of cals next week.

Cheat day today though, I'm incredibly excited! Been waiting all week biggrin

https://instagram.com/p/8XXe6Jrq0l/

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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didelydoo said:
Not been sleeping to great of late, ended getting up early, and thus going to the gym this morning at 0430......

got some posing practice in before a mammoth arm session.

https://instagram.com/p/8UyaS9rq71 - snippet here, Pvapour please critique smile (bear in mind, work in progress!)
small amount of carbs and essential fats before bed will see you sleep better, wont make a jot of differnce to to your condition, if you prefer not to do that then get some cherry juice down you an hour before bed, its quite normal to have disrupted sleep patterns as your BF drops.

when you watch the video back what are your thoughts? its really important how you see it.

for me you look far to tense, need to relax more, its not the same focus as lifting a heavy weight!!

the start of the movement to the moment of full contraction you need to practice so that it becomes a very natural and relaxing motion, if you shake and look like you'e not enjoying yourself then thats the experience you'll share with judges and audience.
the one move you can let all this tension out with is the most muscular, one of the reasons most BBs finish off with this pose in their routine
is this a starter pose?. where does it sit in the routine? if starter then head down and slowly list your head along with your arms, I like the hold 'nailed to the cross' then onto the full contraction, when at that point your head could still be hung slightly but eyes looking ahead (sort of evil looking) then lift head as you go for complete contraction.
have you read any books or watched any videos?
Robert Kennedys series of books were a fantastic insight in my day, beef it, ripped to name a couple.
Lee Labrada, Bob Paris, franz Zane (though he use to shkae allot) Chris dickerson are some great poseurs to watch videos off, again though, I might be out of date but I dont think good posing dates tbh.
breathing while controlling your ab tension is a good way to look more relaxed and because you're are natural and dont have the bloat it should work well.
body looks good, it'd be a shame not to do it justice
its interesting to see a powerlifters physique stripped of fat, you can see how powerlifting has developed your body in a different way to a bodybuilders, I imagine many of the 'shaping' exercises BBs deliberate over have never been part of your routine? concentration curls, lateral raises, rear raises etc excuse if i'm assuming smile
your quad images are very strong, far better pre workout though,, a reason certain muscles groups arent pumped up backstage. (calves particularly)

Burwood - no mate, have never missed a session, goals arent for me, motivation gets you going but its habbit that keeps you going for a lifetime, i'd rather go at 80% and mix in different activities to keep it interesting.
your leg story sounds nasty, never had and injury (touch wood) so not sure how i'd cope with that!

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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shoulders, bis and calves for me this morning followed by some off roaf MBiking this arvo.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Pvapour said:
small amount of carbs and essential fats before bed will see you sleep better, wont make a jot of differnce to to your condition, if you prefer not to do that then get some cherry juice down you an hour before bed, its quite normal to have disrupted sleep patterns as your BF drops.

when you watch the video back what are your thoughts? its really important how you see it.

for me you look far to tense, need to relax more, its not the same focus as lifting a heavy weight!!

the start of the movement to the moment of full contraction you need to practice so that it becomes a very natural and relaxing motion, if you shake and look like you'e not enjoying yourself then thats the experience you'll share with judges and audience.
the one move you can let all this tension out with is the most muscular, one of the reasons most BBs finish off with this pose in their routine
is this a starter pose?. where does it sit in the routine? if starter then head down and slowly list your head along with your arms, I like the hold 'nailed to the cross' then onto the full contraction, when at that point your head could still be hung slightly but eyes looking ahead (sort of evil looking) then lift head as you go for complete contraction.
have you read any books or watched any videos?
Robert Kennedys series of books were a fantastic insight in my day, beef it, ripped to name a couple.
Lee Labrada, Bob Paris, franz Zane (though he use to shkae allot) Chris dickerson are some great poseurs to watch videos off, again though, I might be out of date but I dont think good posing dates tbh.
breathing while controlling your ab tension is a good way to look more relaxed and because you're are natural and dont have the bloat it should work well.
body looks good, it'd be a shame not to do it justice
its interesting to see a powerlifters physique stripped of fat, you can see how powerlifting has developed your body in a different way to a bodybuilders, I imagine many of the 'shaping' exercises BBs deliberate over have never been part of your routine? concentration curls, lateral raises, rear raises etc excuse if i'm assuming smile
your quad images are very strong, far better pre workout though,, a reason certain muscles groups arent pumped up backstage. (calves particularly)
Great reply, thanks, some great pointers there too smile I'm relatively happy with how my body looks and the movements them selves, but you're right, I look tense and uncomfortable... that's near the start of the routine, before I transition into standing up. Even now though, poses are becoming much more relaxed as I hit them more. This is actually the first time i've done my routine all the way through (1 min in total) so i'm still a bit hesitant remembering what i'm doing next, hopefully it'll be more fluid given a bit more time. Lee Labrada and Bob Paris are fantastic, getting anywhere near that would be the aim. Fluid, relaxed movement will be my aim.

I've only added in lat raise, concentration curls lat/rear delt raises etc over the past 10 months- prior to that it was all barbell work really, usually heavy. Has made me 'thick' in some places i guess, and left me with smaller pecs than i'd like (OH pressing, with little benching previously)- Something i intend to remedy next year.

I'm happy with my legs at the moment, I think they'll look good come comp time- but yes, pump takes all the separation away!

Over all I'm quite pleased with where I am, though I've realised I've still got lots to lean out to be stage ready/to look how I want- and with only 5 weeks left, it'll be a tough few weeks, mentally and physically. Still, I do like a challenge smile

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Bob Paris, what a physique. Pre roid gut years.

CinnamonFan

980 posts

196 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Ran the 5km 'Major Series' obstacle course in Tonbridge Wells this morning! Really enjoyed it!

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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didelydoo said:
0500 leg session, great, loads of stuff. Legs starting to take shape and some detail coming through, need to lean out more though to finish them off, drop of cals next week.

Cheat day today though, I'm incredibly excited! Been waiting all week biggrin

https://instagram.com/p/8XXe6Jrq0l/
Sweet DD. It always amazes me what lurks under fat. Hey you can shift some weight with those pins so no surprise there is some fillet underneath hehe

TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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British classic powerlifting champs today.

My knee injury showed. Struggled in the squat. Got 200kg on my first. My second was 210kg and was painful driving out the bottom of the squat and didn't get the lift. Third time again at 210kg I thought I'd take a chance with depth to try and take the knee out of it. Got the lift fine but got 1 white light and 2 red, so didn't quite get the depth. Bit disappointed but was expected.

Bench got 140kg on the second. Went for 145kg on the third and didn't quite get it. Shame because i got it last week.

Deadlift got all 3 and finished with 250kg which matches my pb so happy.

Squat let me down as my recorded lift was 17kg off my best from earlier in the year. Also didn't beat my quali total but was always going to be hard when my squat game was poor.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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CinnamonFan said:
Ran the 5km 'Major Series' obstacle course in Tonbridge Wells this morning! Really enjoyed it!
hoping to do similar shortly (spartan sprint) been increasing my fitness but will not sacrifice my muscle mass to do it so am unsure how i'll fair...

if you dont mind me asking; what are you sphysical stats & what sort of fitness level are you at in terms of running, cycling etc and how did you fair in the field?

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Burwood said:
Sweet DD. It always amazes me what lurks under fat. Hey you can shift some weight with those pins so no surprise there is some fillet underneath hehe
hehe that tickled me

off road MBiking this morning followed by a T25 speed session.

Edited by Pvapour on Sunday 4th October 08:13

militantmandy

3,829 posts

186 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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TheBALDpuma said:
British classic powerlifting champs today.

My knee injury showed. Struggled in the squat. Got 200kg on my first. My second was 210kg and was painful driving out the bottom of the squat and didn't get the lift. Third time again at 210kg I thought I'd take a chance with depth to try and take the knee out of it. Got the lift fine but got 1 white light and 2 red, so didn't quite get the depth. Bit disappointed but was expected.

Bench got 140kg on the second. Went for 145kg on the third and didn't quite get it. Shame because i got it last week.

Deadlift got all 3 and finished with 250kg which matches my pb so happy.

Squat let me down as my recorded lift was 17kg off my best from earlier in the year. Also didn't beat my quali total but was always going to be hard when my squat game was poor.
All part of the game I suppose. Very impressive numbers all the same.

My girlfriend had her first meet this Sunday. Any pearls of wisdom?

CinnamonFan

980 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Pvapour said:
CinnamonFan said:
Ran the 5km 'Major Series' obstacle course in Tonbridge Wells this morning! Really enjoyed it!
hoping to do similar shortly (spartan sprint) been increasing my fitness but will not sacrifice my muscle mass to do it so am unsure how i'll fair...

if you dont mind me asking; what are you sphysical stats & what sort of fitness level are you at in terms of running, cycling etc and how did you fair in the field?
The spartan will be tougher than the Major Series stuff. Mainly due to the obstacles involved.

Im 5'8 62kg. I can run about 3km at 10km/hour, cycle 5k without issue and I found it a lot easier. The queues for the obstacles broke up the cardio, so I wasnt running constantly.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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CinnamonFan said:
The spartan will be tougher than the Major Series stuff. Mainly due to the obstacles involved.

Im 5'8 62kg. I can run about 3km at 10km/hour, cycle 5k without issue and I found it a lot easier. The queues for the obstacles broke up the cardio, so I wasnt running constantly.
thanks for that, think i might be ok then PBs so far are 11kmh / 6km for running & 30kmh / 32km on cycling. obstacles shouldnt be a problem. only looking to place mid field with my build, we'll see.

TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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militantmandy said:
All part of the game I suppose. Very impressive numbers all the same.

My girlfriend had her first meet this Sunday. Any pearls of wisdom?
As in today? Bit late for wisdom if so!

All I'd say is wait for and pay attention to the judges calls. Nothing worse than failing because hit rack to early. If you're going with her it really helps to have someone to fill weight slips in etc so all she has to do is lift

Pvapour

8,981 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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just been reading up on some negative opinions on upright rows, shoulder press behind the neck & lat pull downs behind neck

having always performed these and them providing the main stay of mass building for me (no injuries so far) what are peoples thoughts?

never done military press which thery suggest as a sub (also dumbell but do these) but happy to do them

they're saying damage can be hidden and not felt for ages and then tendons can ping??

LordGrover

33,535 posts

212 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I've always avoided those as I heard the same, leg extension machine too. Lots of scare stories about impingement too. Can't say I know of anyone actually injuring themselves due to using them long term though.
There's so many ways to skin the cat I've never missed them.

ETA. Here's a video off the Internets so it must be true. biggrin
Youtube

Edited by LordGrover on Sunday 4th October 18:19

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Pvapour said:
just been reading up on some negative opinions on upright rows, shoulder press behind the neck & lat pull downs behind neck

having always performed these and them providing the main stay of mass building for me (no injuries so far) what are peoples thoughts?

never done military press which thery suggest as a sub (also dumbell but do these) but happy to do them

they're saying damage can be hidden and not felt for ages and then tendons can ping??
I do upright rows and lat pull downs behind neck without any trouble - although I always do a couple of light warm up sets (as with most exercises) for the upright rows. I also did upright rows for 3-4 years when I was in my teens, never had a problem. I guess some are more prone to injury than others, but I do think that a couple of light warm up sets is very important.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I've never gelled with upright rows. I'm not that flexible and get irritation in my rear deltas and elbows. Never liked behind neck presses. Never liked leg extension. Common sense says why. Walking lunges with DBS rule in my opinion.just my bs pinion chaps.

MC Bodge

21,614 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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50Km steady 31km/h cycle ride this morning.

Carrying and giving shoulder rides to my wriggling 16Kg 2 year old son for a couple of hours around a forest this afternoon.

Pressups
Sternum chinups
Squats with my DIY sandbag on 1 shoulder (oof)
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