What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

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LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Is that like a refeed but more weed involved?

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
Loads of arms for me this morning, good heavy session. Cardio later on. Bi's measured just over 18" with a pump, so pleased with that. 19" next year!

Carb reefed tomorrow, most exciting day of the week biggrin
What does that involve DD? Junk/cheat day or clean carbs?

Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
Loads of arms for me this morning, good heavy session. Cardio later on. Bi's measured just over 18" with a pump, so pleased with that. 19" next year!

Carb reefed tomorrow, most exciting day of the week biggrin
Bodybuilding is about concentrating on weak parts DD wink and your arms are hardly that smile

To give an idea of proportion, your calves should measure the same as your arms thereabouts.

(Not just saying this so I stay ahead in the arm size stakes either biggrin)

Eta: save being a hypocrite I just checked mine for first time in 20yrs smile I'm ok tongue out




Edited by Pvapour on Friday 9th October 13:48

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Burwood said:
What does that involve DD? Junk/cheat day or clean carbs?
Just add in a bunch of carbs into my normal diet- fruit, rice, potatoes and similar, not an excuse to binge on crap.

Pvapour said:
Bodybuilding is about concentrating on weak parts DD wink

To give an idea of proportion, your calves should measure the same as your arms thereabouts.

(Not just saying this so I stay ahead in the arm size stakes either biggrin)
It was arm day, so I'm limited with what to concentrate on biggrin Had a calf measure - 16.5" just now, so not far off unpumped bi's. Besides, when you have no 'strong' parts- everything's weak....

Quads, chest, lats, bi's, delts - these tend to be the muscles people (me anyway) are drawn to. None of these on me are anything special- so that's what I'm putting the main focus on. Never understood the focus on weak parts approach- make your strong parts stronger, whilst upping your weak parts at the same time (as long as it stays in proportion)

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Pvapour said:
Eta: save being a hypocrite I just checked mine for first time in 20yrs smile I'm ok tongue out




Edited by Pvapour on Friday 9th October 13:48
...for now... tongue outbiggrin

TheJimi

25,012 posts

244 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
Never understood the focus on weak parts approach- make your strong parts stronger, whilst upping your weak parts at the same time (as long as it stays in proportion)
Am I reading you right here diddely?

I'm the opposite, in that the idea of focussing on the weak bits (not to the detriment of the strong bits) makes perfect sense to me.

If that wasn't what you meant, apologies!

Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
It was arm day, so I'm limited with what to concentrate on biggrin Had a calf measure - 16.5" just now, so not far off unpumped bi's. Besides, when you have no 'strong' parts- everything's weak....

Quads, chest, lats, bi's, delts - these tend to be the muscles people (me anyway) are drawn to. None of these on me are anything special- so that's what I'm putting the main focus on. Never understood the focus on weak parts approach- make your strong parts stronger, whilst upping your weak parts at the same time (as long as it stays in proportion)
sorry, was refering to your comment around going for bigger arms next year, i took that as a 'focus' for you and you not looking at the weaker areas, of course you want to be going for bigger arms smile just that calves need even harder work

bodybuilding IS about asthetic balance as i'm sure you'll agrree, they're are plenty of BBs out there with huge upper bodies and skinny leggs (not you obviously) that look ridiculous to me, they've probably given equal effort to all their body parts but its just that their leggs dont respond in the same way so lagg behind.

Think you mentioned (and dont mean for you to feel like I keep picking on your calves) you never really trained your calves?. in which case they'll probably respond really well anyway given equal effort. 16.5" is by no means small anyway in comparison to 18" cold for bis? developing the outer head alone will probably add an easy 1" smile

I wont say any more on the subject tho as now is not the time, I should be more empathetic about where you are right now, its a tough tough time and its going to get harder (nearly deleted all the above) and I think your drive to conditioning is exemplary, I've never tried to get that low in BF as the look doesnt suit me (it doesnt some people) but gone through the pain of pre comp so understand how you feel right now.

hows the routine coming along? have you strung some moves together yet? the vid I saw was of just one move with no transitions PM me if you prefer.


Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
...for now... tongue outbiggrin
hope you do make it bigger DD, been there and know its not for me, became comfortable with my size a long time ago, the joys of being an old fart & wisdom biggrin

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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TheJimi said:
Am I reading you right here diddely?

I'm the opposite, in that the idea of focussing on the weak bits (not to the detriment of the strong bits) makes perfect sense to me.

If that wasn't what you meant, apologies!
Reading right- Maybe the way I worded it though... what I was meaning was I've no strong points IMO, so I need to develop some before I can focus on weak points. No point focusing on something that's a bit under par when the 'show' muscles aren't up to scratch. I'll get these 'show' muscles standing out, then I'll work on other things.

TheJimi

25,012 posts

244 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Aha, gotcha, makes perfect sense yes

You're probably being too harsh on yourself I think, mind you I say that without having seen you in the flesh.

I've seen plenty BB'ers who've trained as BB'ers for years, and still not in the condition you are.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Pvapour said:
sorry, was refering to your comment around going for bigger arms next year, i took that as a 'focus' for you and you not looking at the weaker areas, of course you want to be going for bigger arms smile just that calves need even harder work

bodybuilding IS about asthetic balance as i'm sure you'll agrree, they're are plenty of BBs out there with huge upper bodies and skinny leggs (not you obviously) that look ridiculous to me, they've probably given equal effort to all their body parts but its just that their leggs dont respond in the same way so lagg behind.

Think you mentioned (and dont mean for you to feel like I keep picking on your calves) you never really trained your calves?. in which case they'll probably respond really well anyway given equal effort. 16.5" is by no means small anyway in comparison to 18" cold for bis? developing the outer head alone will probably add an easy 1" smile

I wont say any more on the subject tho as now is not the time, I should be more empathetic about where you are right now, its a tough tough time and its going to get harder (nearly deleted all the above) and I think your drive to conditioning is exemplary, I've never tried to get that low in BF as the look doesnt suit me (it doesnt some people) but gone through the pain of pre comp so understand how you feel right now.

hows the routine coming along? have you strung some moves together yet? the vid I saw was of just one move with no transitions PM me if you prefer.
I enjoy your posts, very helpful and informative- from a voice of experience also, so they are very much appreciated, keep them coming smile Compliments are good for the ego, but not much use for focusing the mind and planning ahead.

I like the look of golden era bodybuilders- big bi's/lats/chest, decent (but not huge) legs and a small waist, Serge Nubert was close to perfect IMO. Lots of work to get there, so they'll be a shift in focus after the comp to a bit more mass in the areas I need it/want it (not just arms- Calves do need some attention though biggrin )

Routine is going OK, have it all worked out, just need to practice more (much more...) I'll maybe get something together and PM it though for a critique. Still not run through the whole thing in one go, so need to get my act together (literally in this case!)

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Pvapour said:
hope you do make it bigger DD, been there and know its not for me, became comfortable with my size a long time ago, the joys of being an old fart & wisdom biggrin
Always wanted to be lean and big- the two never seem to happen at the same time though!

soad

32,913 posts

177 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Later on I'll be lifting beer cans!

Cheers,
soad

TheJimi

25,012 posts

244 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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didelydoo said:
Pvapour said:
hope you do make it bigger DD, been there and know its not for me, became comfortable with my size a long time ago, the joys of being an old fart & wisdom biggrin
Always wanted to be lean and big- the two never seem to happen at the same time though!
The Holy Grail!

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Or in my case, just to be lean would be good. hehe

Johnny

9,652 posts

285 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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LordGrover said:
Compared with your squat and deads, that bent over row looks heavy.

Keep at it, DOMS are all part of the fun!
The squats were just to try and stretch things out a bit after I trained legs Monday, having not done again for a few weeks. Obviously I went straight back in as normal hehe

And I love the DOMS, it was just getting a bit silly. Even the OH has been wtf I did to be hobbling so much biggrin

They're feeling a bit better today and I now just have a nice all over pain...



Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Today was the second half of the 10RM/5RM stuff; powercleans, Pendlays, close-grip bench and barbell curls.
Went conservative on the estimates again and hit all my 10s and 5s.



DD, what is your cardio routine?

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Today:


Hyperextensions - 1x25

Squats - 5x5
Bench - 5x5
Power Clean - 8x2
BB Overhead Press - 5x5-6
EZ BB Standing Curls - 5x6 (3 strict sets and 2 cheat)
Bent Over BB Row - 5x5
Deadlifts - 5x1

Hyperextensions - 1x18

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Halb said:
DD, what is your cardio routine?
500 cals on the stationary bike every day (mostly fasted in the morning if I can)- that's it... sometimes fast, other times a bit slower, depends how I feel, just however long it takes. Also a brisk 2.5 mile walk each working day at lunchtime.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Johnny said:
LordGrover said:
Compared with your squat and deads, that bent over row looks heavy.

Keep at it, DOMS are all part of the fun!
The squats were just to try and stretch things out a bit after I trained legs Monday, having not done again for a few weeks. Obviously I went straight back in as normal hehe

And I love the DOMS, it was just getting a bit silly. Even the OH has been wtf I did to be hobbling so much biggrin

They're feeling a bit better today and I now just have a nice all over pain...
DOMS?
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