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hbzboy

444 posts

186 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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z4chris99 said:
GTIR said:
I remember my brother telling me about officers when he was in the RM and they sounded like a bunch of typical posh tts with no clue!
I doubt it's changed.
I dont doubt the posh comment, About half of sandhurst went to private school, and would suspect the same is for RM officers, but 'no clue' is a bit harsh. Im sure when officers go off and command troops they are a little green.

8000 troops, 800 officers
troop training is 36 weeks, officer training is 15 months.
unlike the army the commando tests for RM officers are a bit harder:

The endurance course is 73 minutes for troops, 72 for officers
The assault course is 13 minutes for troops, 12 for officers
The 30 miler is 8 hours for troops, and 7 for officers - who do it alone rather than as a troop following a instructor.
Yes as you must be able to lead from the front. No point in not being able to keep up wiht your troops.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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andy_s said:
Halb said:
I understand it's not allowed, and for fun for the spirit of the thing, I shall leave them off. But I would like to know the reason behind it.
"Because you're not fking Cliff Richard or Olivia Newton John, so square away the fking walkman and no more bone questions from you or you'll be on a fking charge, now double away, lef ri lef ri lef ri...."

Is the reason.
Too right. He'll be wanting both his pretty fitness instructor and a life coach there as well saying motivational stuff. hehe

okgo

38,101 posts

199 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Also prepare to be known by a racist term most likely. Racism (albeit casual) was rife when my mate was going through it.

andy_s

19,408 posts

260 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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okgo said:
Also prepare to be known by a racist term most likely. Racism (albeit casual) was rife when my mate was going through it.
I should imagine that would be 'Black Jesus'.

Don't take too much offence, anybody who's anybody will have a nickname directed at some physical characteristic. I'd worry more if people weren't taking the piss and giving you a moniker.

okgo

38,101 posts

199 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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andy_s said:
I should imagine that would be 'Black Jesus'.

Don't take too much offence, anybody who's anybody will have a nickname directed at some physical characteristic. I'd worry more if people weren't taking the piss and giving you a moniker.
Odd that its allowed in the forces but not in any other workplace.

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Returning to the medical, the reserves can be a little different from the regulars because the doctors who carry out the medicals are just normal gp's who are paid to conduct a few medicals, rather than being serving members of the armed forces.

I've seen them use discretion when a candidates bmi was 'off' but they were clearly fit and healthy.

Obviously don't rely on it though smile Struggling with the run time and the bmi says you've got some work to do first.


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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el stovey said:
andy_s said:
Halb said:
I understand it's not allowed, and for fun for the spirit of the thing, I shall leave them off. But I would like to know the reason behind it.
"Because you're not fking Cliff Richard or Olivia Newton John, so square away the fking walkman and no more bone questions from you or you'll be on a fking charge, now double away, lef ri lef ri lef ri...."

Is the reason.
Too right. He'll be wanting both his pretty fitness instructor and a life coach there as well saying motivational stuff. hehe
Well I didn't wish to trouble you, but now that you bring it up...

buckrogers21stc

25 posts

210 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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shouldbworking said:
Returning to the medical, the reserves can be a little different from the regulars because the doctors who carry out the medicals are just normal gp's who are paid to conduct a few medicals, rather than being serving members of the armed forces.

I've seen them use discretion when a candidates bmi was 'off' but they were clearly fit and healthy.

Obviously don't rely on it though smile Struggling with the run time and the bmi says you've got some work to do first.
Any I have heard of have been Royal Navy Medical Officers.

Anyhow, this may or may not help. I used this myself to very good effect. Suggested to me by my bro who went through P-Coy.

I chopped and changed a bit with the circuits days etc but the weight and boots thing works wonders.
One thing. If you use this.... DO NOT TELL ANYONE! Marines v Paras - love to hate etc etc.

http://www.paras10.com/files/trg_pcoy_challenge.pd...

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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buckrogers21stc said:
shouldbworking said:
Returning to the medical, the reserves can be a little different from the regulars because the doctors who carry out the medicals are just normal gp's who are paid to conduct a few medicals, rather than being serving members of the armed forces.

I've seen them use discretion when a candidates bmi was 'off' but they were clearly fit and healthy.

Obviously don't rely on it though smile Struggling with the run time and the bmi says you've got some work to do first.
Any I have heard of have been Royal Navy Medical Officers.

Anyhow, this may or may not help. I used this myself to very good effect. Suggested to me by my bro who went through P-Coy.

I chopped and changed a bit with the circuits days etc but the weight and boots thing works wonders.
One thing. If you use this.... DO NOT TELL ANYONE! Marines v Paras - love to hate etc etc.

http://www.paras10.com/files/trg_pcoy_challenge.pd...
I did P Coy years ago. Being fit will make it a bit easier, but it tests much more than just fitness. Anyone can do a 10 mile run, do a 10 mile run when you have just had your nose broken in the milling. Anyone can do a three mile sprint; do a three mile sprint attached to a telegraph pole. Anyone can run along a six inch wide see-saw and jump a six foot gap.
Run along a long a six-inch wide see-saw and jump a six foot gap 30 feet up in the air.

Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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GTIR said:
I had to listen to one of my snobby customers go on about his son who's been accepted as an officer in the RM. He was going on like his son was some kind of superhero and "his men" (even though he doesn't have a platoon yet) are inferior to the officers.

Utter bell end.

I remember my brother telling me about officers when he was in the RM and they sounded like a bunch of typical posh tts with no clue!
I doubt it's changed.
As a die-hard Army mad Officer, I would suggest you have no fecking clue about RM Officers. I do, as a rule they are excellent.

minerva

756 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Agreed.the RM officers are perhaps some of the best that I have worked with. Very impressive bunch.

Best of luck OP. let us know how the training is going.

Oh, and although the PFA (personal fitness assessment) is 1.5 miles (2.4kms) in 12 mins 30 for a man under 30 years of age, experience tells me that if you are not comfortably running it in 9 minutes 20 seconds then you will struggle with the all arms' course.

minerva

756 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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GTIR said:
I had to listen to one of my snobby customers go on about his son who's been accepted as an officer in the RM. He was going on like his son was some kind of superhero and "his men" (even though he doesn't have a platoon yet) are inferior to the officers.
That's his mum talking. If he turns up to Lympstone/Dartmouth/Cranwell/Sandhurst with an attitude like that, he will not last long.

'Serve to lead' is the Sandhurst motto. They mean it, too.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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minerva said:
Agreed.the RM officers are perhaps some of the best that I have worked with. Very impressive bunch.

Best of luck OP. let us know how the training is going.

Oh, and although the PFA (personal fitness assessment) is 1.5 miles (2.4kms) in 12 mins 30 for a man under 30 years of age, experience tells me that if you are not comfortably running it in 9 minutes 20 seconds then you will struggle with the all arms' course.
If it is anything like the BFTs that we used to do, the pti would deliberately hold the squad back for a large part of the run, so you had to run like the clappers, much, much faster than you wanted to, to make the time.

dai1983

2,917 posts

150 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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z4chris99 said:
for example the pussers issue trainers they are issued are laughably bad, with the age of modern fibers etc they are still wearing wooly jumpers and using a shoe string to make their shirt neck as tight as possible.
Kit is produced or supplied by the lowest bidder so that's what you get. There's also tradition, insurance and fk around factors that have to be considered. God help it if you saw the old itchy blankets!

There's some sense but also some bks on this thread so I'd advise the OP with the following:

- get the bulk off and get your running up.
-Make sure you can pass a PJFT but 3 miles in under 22 mins on the road is your aim.
-body weight exercises only but only to ensure you pass the tests
- learn to climb ropes with the correct technique
- a lot of black lads have trouble swimming. Make sure you can do front crawl, breast stroke and are comfortable treading water. Unless you really can walk on it.
- no running in boots or with loads. You should get built up to it properly and you don't want to get injured before you've started.

I passed out in 2008 and I'm a regular so things are likely to be different for you. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Our officers tend to be sound and down to earth but you do get the odd strange one. A lot of the Army officers and SNCOs I've worked under have been total knob heads. Not because they are toffs but because they don't get bootneck humour or our work ethic.


Edited to add:

-find out what boots they wear at CTC at the moment. Get hold of those EXACT ones and break them in. The old assault boot was horrendous when new and only bearable after a few weeks of use. I got given some after my PRMC



Edited by dai1983 on Monday 9th December 23:45


Edited by dai1983 on Tuesday 10th December 08:07

minerva

756 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Totally agree with all of the above post.....

Right up until he calls me a knobhead!!

;-)

dai1983

2,917 posts

150 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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minerva said:
Totally agree with all of the above post.....

Right up until he calls me a knobhead!!

;-)
Ha ha sorry. Once your used to doing things a certain way with our officers it's a shock working with the Army that's for sure. Where I work my OC is always a REME Captain and to be honest they've been sound.

minerva

756 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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dai1983 said:
minerva said:
Totally agree with all of the above post.....

Right up until he calls me a knobhead!!

;-)
Ha ha sorry. Once your used to doing things a certain way with our officers it's a shock working with the Army that's for sure. Where I work my OC is always a REME Captain and to be honest they've been sound.
The REME seem to be okay... Have you ever been attached to a cavalry unit? They all seem to try to model themselves on George from Blackadder goes forth!

TheForceV4

Original Poster:

543 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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z4chris99 said:
the little bro is a RM officer

he is about 5,10 and was 85kg when he joined. he's now about 80kg I reckon

As you can see they are mostly ripped and light weight

Hi Chris is this down at Lympstone?

TheForceV4

Original Poster:

543 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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buckrogers21stc said:
Ive been through the RMR training.
Would you like the full story lol or you want to ask anything I can only give you my version.
The full story please if you dont mind!!

TheForceV4

Original Poster:

543 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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egor110 said:
Did the original poster say he was in Brstol?

My brother has a cross fit gym , near to 40 commando so has a good load of marines attend, might be worth a trip down from Bristol?
No, based in Leicester im afraid so bloody miles away frown