PH 2014 Goals, Progress & Transformations Thread

PH 2014 Goals, Progress & Transformations Thread

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Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Rest on lap, lean back bringing legs up so DBs end up in start position while swearing a lot.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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deadmau5 said:
Halb said:
Getting into place in the first place.
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!
I just rest each DB on my knees whilst sitting, then lie back, keeping the DB's tight to my chest, then when flat, press 'em.

That's fine up to 45kg 'bells for me.

ETA: That's for flat & decline DB pressing. For incline, it's much the same, except depending on the weight, I'll use some leg drive to get them in place.

Further ETA: Does anyone else not like having weights handed to them? Doing it myself, from the start I've got eveything nice and tight and it follows through to the movement. Getting the weights handed to me buggers this up.

Weird, I know.

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 16th April 13:20

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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deadmau5 said:
Halb said:
Getting into place in the first place.
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!
Well I suppose that technique is OK...for women...and Heefy.... tongue out

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Halb said:
deadmau5 said:
Halb said:
Getting into place in the first place.
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!
Well I suppose that technique is OK...for women...and Heefy.... tongue out
I just said that I didn't do that... you need to learn to read. tongue out

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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deadmau5 said:
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!

Off topic, is this you!? wink

supraboy

285 posts

184 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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smiffy180 said:
TheJimi said:
deadmau5 said:
supraboy said:
Really enjoying my gym work at the moment, going 5-7 times a week purely weights work but am really struggling to up the weight on chest workouts.

I do a mix of bench press, bench press on smiths in incline, flat and decline, flys with dumbells and bench press with dumbells, but am still not able to up the weight....

This is doing 4 sets of 8-10 reps, doing for about 6 weeks now, really want to get my bench press up, 50kg seems pretty pathetic!

Any advice?

Chris
Lose the Smith machine and the decline.

Try dips, close grip bench and narrow grip bench instead.
I'd add: replace decline smith with decline DB press
I'll add my bit to these;
  • do a warm up set e.g bar for 12-15 reps
  • followed by 3 sets increasing weight each set up to 8 reps
  • 2 sets increasing weight again of up to 5 reps
  • last set make it so you can rep out minimum of 3, if you get 3 in week one, aim for 4 in week 2. Keep doing this until you hit 6-8 reps then up the weight again to 3 rep min.
I've done this in the past and I'm doing it again.
Alternatively you could follow wendler 5/3/1 which I have a drop box link to android app if you want it smile

ETA: don't be afraid to do any program with dumbbells instead of bar as well. IMO dumbbell>barbell for bench press. Doesn't sound logical (and may only work for me biggrin) but if you've seen my vid above, I stopped pressing around 7 weeks ago and did dumbbell and 1 barbell session prior to that smile

Edited by smiffy180 on Wednesday 16th April 11:49
Thanks for the advice lads.

Did close grip press this morning and certainly felt more of a burn. Did dumbell press also this morning, which i havent done for about 2 weeks, and did 4 sets, 10x18kg, 10x20kg, 8x22kg 7x24kg. Best before was 5x22kg so very happy with that. Want to be able to do 3 sets of 8x28kg by Mid June. Possible? smile

Edited by supraboy on Thursday 17th April 09:27

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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smiffy180 said:
deadmau5 said:
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!

Off topic, is this you!? wink
I can confirm that that is NOT me wink

IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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deadmau5 said:
Halb said:
Getting into place in the first place.
What techniques do people use for this? Ideally one person holding each one and passing them to you when lying down but that's impossible in a home gym!
It's easy when they're only 15kg apiece...

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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smiffy180 said:
Had a week off and set a new PB!
180kg bench press biggrinhttps://youtu.be/BTWICcfTFO4
But, but,... just the one? And with three blokes helping you.

Meh.

I benched 1.8 tonnes on Sunday. And that was just a session warm up. biggrin

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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V8mate said:
But, but,... just the one? And with three blokes helping you.

Meh.

I benched 1.8 grams on Sunday. And that was just a session warm up. biggrin
Well the first bloke didn't trust himself and tbf if I dropped it how many people can pick up 180kg? hehe
I felt safer benching it as well smile

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I did my highest ever deadlift last night. I had the olympic bar with 145kg of 2" discs, 25kg of 1" discs chained on, two 5kg 2" dumbells strapped on and a 10kg e-z curl bar strapped on. I physically couldn't fit anything else on it. 210kg in total and I lifted it pretty easily. Previous best was 180kg x 9, but I haven't done any deadlifts for about three months since that.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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smiffy180 said:
Well the first bloke didn't trust himself and tbf if I dropped it how many people can pick up 180kg?
The weights come off.
HTH.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Halb said:
The weights come off.
HTH.
Have you seen what happens when someone drops the bar from the top? Their first instinct isn't I'll take the weights off......

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Further to my post above re getting weights handed to you, does anyone else not "like" being spotted?

I train mostly on my own, but I've been caught out once with a "spotter" who was less than on the ball, resulting in a 45kg DB landing on my leg.

I've now trained on my own for so long that I'm mentally conditioned to the fact that the buck stops with me on a given movement, so when someone does offer to spot me, my focus is put off slightly by the existence of the spotter.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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smiffy180 said:
Have you seen what happens when someone drops the bar from the top? Their first instinct isn't I'll take the weights off......
You're unlikely to drop it completely unless you've gone double over what you can do! A 'controlled drop' might happen, even so not likely if you've ramped up sensibly. tongue out

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Halb said:
You're unlikely to drop it completely unless you've gone double over what you can do! A 'controlled drop' might happen, even so not likely if you've ramped up sensibly. tongue out
Hypothetical situation tongue out and it looks cool with 3 people wink

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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TheJimi said:
Further to my post above re getting weights handed to you, does anyone else not "like" being spotted?

I train mostly on my own, but I've been caught out once with a "spotter" who was less than on the ball, resulting in a 45kg DB landing on my leg.

I've now trained on my own for so long that I'm mentally conditioned to the fact that the buck stops with me on a given movement, so when someone does offer to spot me, my focus is put off slightly by the existence of the spotter.
I use them for a push up with dumbbells and to help if get stuck with barbell but that's it. Rest is up to me smile

Digger

14,669 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I'm going to try the 'on the knees and up' technique from now on, after what happened the other day!

I've started to get back in to chest work more, now that I'm happier and more confident about my rotator cuffs, and was ramping up the weights on a drop set. Feel ok getting in to position up to 16KG (" . . . LIGHTWEIGHT. . . ") biggrin

With 18's decided to get the left DB handed to me once in position, so asked some random to help, assuming he kinda understood what to do. . .

Firstly, he tried handing the DB to me whilst holding the grip and not both weighted ends . . . ROOKIE!

Secondly, once he'd sussed out rookie error number one, he proceeded straight to rookie error number two, and pretty much allow the weight to drop on to my hand rather than let me take the weight gradually.

Grrr . . .

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Another reason why, in the rare event that I ask for a spot, I'm very picky about who I ask!

There's a "gym fails" type compilation on youtube, and one of them shows a spotter on the bench press basically hand the guy the bar then immediately let it go, without making sure the guy can take the weight.

He can't and the bar promptly drops on the guy. That spotter was a complete prick, boils my piss just thinking about it.

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Having someone else pick the weight up and drop it on top of you? You are lucky! I DREAM about such luxuries.

How they other half live hey?!?