PH 2014 Goals, Progress & Transformations Thread

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Adz The Rat said:

I couldnt think of the name of that one.

Anyone in here able to do it?

Very tricky unless you are a short arse!

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Hoofy said:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/ani...

So any protein is bad.

Yet another article where a journalist completely fails to recognise the vital difference between CORRELATION and CAUSATION

It's a statistical study, so it demonstrates the former. Find me a double-blind peer reviewed medical study that shows the latter...... (there arent any)

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Adz The Rat said:

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Only thing is I think Ive lost some muscle on the cut, well I know I have.

How do you know that?

Unless you've been doing a tonne of cardio, I bet you haven't. You just look smaller because you've lost some intra-muscular fat

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Adz The Rat said:

supraboy said:

Quick question... Can you train too much?

I'm trying to get to the gym everyday, am doing 30 minute sessions roughly and am alternating, leg, chest, back/shoulder, arms day etc. a friend of mine has said I should only train each group once a week, but I rarely get an ache after training on any muscle group ebb though I am pushing until fail :S.

So, can you train to often? And why am I not aching? I am seeing changes In definition, but not really size. 3-4 sets, 12-15 reps, or to fail on last set.

Chris

People talk about over-training, and rest is certainly important as you grow when you rest, but its not something I take too seriously as I doubt most people will be reaching that level of pushing themselves to the absolute limits

I'm inclined to agree - plenty of pro athletes train for 4+ hours a day 6 days a week

I do 50 minutes, 5-6 days a week and have never suffered from overtraining symptoms.

ps - the once-a-week-per-muscle-group thing is largely bullst - unless you are on steroids (that's where it originates)

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Halb said:

Yeah, going too low can fk around with your hormones, for women this can be extra trouble.

It's not the lack of calories that does that, it's the fact that when reducing calories people tend to reduce dietary fat.

You can keep your hormones perfectly happy on very low calorie diets providing you get your fat macro right, and keep hence maintain healthy liver function

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Halb said:

Indeed. My female friends who have extremely low bodyfat levels don't have periods, and are a bit 'emotionless'.

They sound wonderful.....

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Hoofy said:

You prefer emotional women?

No, he said "emotionless" you fat 'tard

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I have the dreaded shoulder injury.... my first after nearly 40 years of abuse. Pretty sure it's the other (proximal) end of the tendon i partially tore last year (distal bicep)

I am going to throw cash at a physio and pray

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Smiffy - did you get bodpod tested? calipers get less reliable over about 20% because of the extra visceral fat, and electrical impedance testing is wildly inaccurate for everyone all the time

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smiffy180 said:

I've read an article my friend posted of Facebook about the chinese and their training methods.
I found it interesting that horny goat weed is used as their natural test booster.
it's fairly cheap to buy so may have a look into that......

Its about as effective as all the other natural test boosters..... which is to say, not at all

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smiffy180 said:

They also ice their balls twice a day for 10 minutes :|
Is there anything that's worth taking?

There's only one thing "worth taking" if you want to increase your testosterone by an amount that would have any impact on your training whatsoever

And that st REALLY isn't worth taking

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smiffy180 said:

What about all these nitric oxide products and the like?
I only take creatine, whey and dextrose.
worth taking bcaa's?

nox = crap
bcaas = only if you train fasted or do some sort of IF programme (ie not you). Food is full of bcaas, and so is your whey. Contrary to the above, bcaas should be avoided if you do lots of cardio, as they add a significant amonia load to the liver, and inhibit your endurance

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3 months of physio.... shoulder almost right again thank god.

I'm officially giving up overhead press and bench press though.

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deadmau5 said:

Erm, have you never seen PTC's legs?

Have you been able to train anything in the last three months?

Ho ho. Legs actually arent so bad these days - still skinny but so is the rest of me

Apart from about 3 weeks where i didnt do any upper body work, i've been ok, eased gradually back into things between week 3 and 6, and i've been back on the rings doing levers and whatnot from about week 7 onwards.

Basically the only thing that causes me grief is overhead press and bench. I was doing +40kg weighted dips perfectly happily by week 4.

I could probably go back and work in some other pressing but i never really got anywhere with bench and i've always hated it. i Might do some overhead press but i'm not going heavy again, and i'm not doing cleans either (cleans were the thing that busted it)

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Just to add - the last two years (and two significant injuries, really the first two i've had) have changed my outlook a bit. I'm 40 years old this year, and honestly i think i need to forget about the "add more weight" / "do more reps" / "make progress every session" mantra. I just want to hold onto what i've got for as long as i can, and i'm not going to risk a really serious injury that puts me out of the gym for months/years/ever

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Hoofy said:

Out of interest, the bouncers at a bodybuilding show... are they absolutely MASSIVE? I mean, normal bouncers wouldn't cut it.

They are powerlifters

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V8mate said:

With bench-based dumbell exercises, I find the hardest bit when pushing on with heavier weights is getting them up in the first place :

Given that my aversion to barbell bench is because of injury, i'll be staying well clear of doing anything heavy with dumbbells - getting them up isnt too bad, but unless you start flinging them, on the floor at the end, it's a short cut to a rotator cuff tear throwing them down again

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goldblum said:

Well done. However I think you've misunderstood somewhat. The discussion concerns pressing a 40kg dumbbell for reps with one arm. Given the exercise is a finisher, i.e., you've done all your heavy lifts first, my point was what given the awkwardness involved not falling off the bench you wouldn't be able to lift as much so what might be the correlation be between a one arm press and proper press. 40kg one arm = 50/60 kg press?

I dunno about you, but i can do a strict barbell press with a lot more weight than i can using dumbbells.Assuming no contribution from the legs, if i could one arm press 40kg, i would fully expect to be able to do a strict barbell press with 100kg.

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goldblum said:

Sounds reasonable certainly. A barbell is easier to control than two dumbbells so yeah I'll go with that. I'm thinking a single arm 40kg press is actually quite good.

I concur

it's one of those stability lifts that has a strong correlation to body weight though - much easier for a heavy guy

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goldblum said:

jr6yam said:

Mondays I do lighter weight high reps and Fridays I do heavy (for me) weight lower reps

Decide on one or the other.

jr6yam said:

I do a full body workout each session, but I'm wondering if heavy squats and deadlifts in the
same workout is too much?

Some people split their workouts into bodyparts, i.e., Chest/triceps, shoulders/back/biceps, legs/abs. In this example as squats and deads use the same muscles they'd be trained on the same day.

Hmm, got to disagree here - mixing low rep/heavy and high rep/volume works really well for me, either from one week to the next, or from one session to the next

Unless you were responding to the "squats and deadlifts in the same session" thing, in which case decide on one or the other" is the correct answer