Crossfit looks rather scary
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And not in the "oh my that looks like hard work" way.
I mean it looks scary in that I can easily see you ending up in a hospital with some bad injury! I have just watched a video someone on FB proudly posted where they were doing these, I guess, full range olympic lifts as fast as possible. Dead lift -> Clean - > Press and back down sort of action. But they're going so fast that they're not doing any of it properly. Its all rushed, bent back and full of jerking movements. That seriously cannot be good for you can it?
I have been reading as well, that training daily to exhaustion is part of doing cross fit. That sounds iffy as well, the last person I know of that trained that hard supposedly suffered permanent muscle damage according to his old coach.
I mean it looks scary in that I can easily see you ending up in a hospital with some bad injury! I have just watched a video someone on FB proudly posted where they were doing these, I guess, full range olympic lifts as fast as possible. Dead lift -> Clean - > Press and back down sort of action. But they're going so fast that they're not doing any of it properly. Its all rushed, bent back and full of jerking movements. That seriously cannot be good for you can it?
I have been reading as well, that training daily to exhaustion is part of doing cross fit. That sounds iffy as well, the last person I know of that trained that hard supposedly suffered permanent muscle damage according to his old coach.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Wednesday 5th March 18:19
Absolutely agree.
I can train myself pretty well after years of being in the gym. Concentrating on clean slow deliberate movements and only stacking weight on when I'm happy the form won't suffer as a result.
A good mate is starting a new CrossFit business and offered a free session so I thought it would be rude not to.
The whole thing felt like numbers were more important than correct form. I felt back twinges from too many dead lifts and lost interest as I got bored after a few minutes of repetition.
Good for willy waving to other CrossFit types but in my opinion it'll be another short lived fad.
I can train myself pretty well after years of being in the gym. Concentrating on clean slow deliberate movements and only stacking weight on when I'm happy the form won't suffer as a result.
A good mate is starting a new CrossFit business and offered a free session so I thought it would be rude not to.
The whole thing felt like numbers were more important than correct form. I felt back twinges from too many dead lifts and lost interest as I got bored after a few minutes of repetition.
Good for willy waving to other CrossFit types but in my opinion it'll be another short lived fad.
I agree.
Been doing Wendler 5/3/1 for months, switched to the 300 workout last week as going on holiday in a few weeks so wanted to trim up. Can deadlift 190kg 1RM, never hurt my back on DL before - pinged it doing 50 x 60kg deadlifts as fast as I could because my form was st. Idiot.
Also there's this (no idea about whether his form is correct, or how long through a workout he was, and it was actually mainly due to the awful placement of the plates behind him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMsa26v23g
Been doing Wendler 5/3/1 for months, switched to the 300 workout last week as going on holiday in a few weeks so wanted to trim up. Can deadlift 190kg 1RM, never hurt my back on DL before - pinged it doing 50 x 60kg deadlifts as fast as I could because my form was st. Idiot.
Also there's this (no idea about whether his form is correct, or how long through a workout he was, and it was actually mainly due to the awful placement of the plates behind him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMsa26v23g
Edited by 22s on Thursday 6th March 15:03
I disagree.
I've being going to CrossFit for about 3 months. Yes, there there is focus on number instead of perfect form, but a decent level of form is required. As the posters above have found out above, doing high rep, low weight dead lifts can result in injury, whether doing CrossFit or something else.
I like it and it's improved my general fitness a lot, but I can appreciate it's not for everyone.
I've being going to CrossFit for about 3 months. Yes, there there is focus on number instead of perfect form, but a decent level of form is required. As the posters above have found out above, doing high rep, low weight dead lifts can result in injury, whether doing CrossFit or something else.
I like it and it's improved my general fitness a lot, but I can appreciate it's not for everyone.
My favourite style of training is conditioning circuits using free weights and kettle bells. I have tried a couple of crossfit WOD's and enjoyed them.
I guess met con training is a bit marmite for gym goers. You either enjoy pushing yourself hard or you don't
Flash in the pan? No way IMO
22s said:
I agree.
Been doing Wendler 5/3/1 for months, switched to the 300 workout last week as going on holiday in a few weeks so wanted to trim up. Can deadlift 190kg 1RM, never hurt my back on DL before - pinged it doing 50 x 60kg deadlifts as fast as I could because my form was st. Idiot.
Also there's this (no idea about whether his form is correct, or how long through a workout he was, and it was actually mainly due to the awful placement of the plates behind him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMsa26v23g
Jesus!Been doing Wendler 5/3/1 for months, switched to the 300 workout last week as going on holiday in a few weeks so wanted to trim up. Can deadlift 190kg 1RM, never hurt my back on DL before - pinged it doing 50 x 60kg deadlifts as fast as I could because my form was st. Idiot.
Also there's this (no idea about whether his form is correct, or how long through a workout he was, and it was actually mainly due to the awful placement of the plates behind him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMsa26v23g
Edited by 22s on Thursday 6th March 15:03
mattikake said:
It's a fad. Google "crossfit injury". I got over 4 million hits...
Says it all.
The injury rate for CrossFit is similar to weightlifting, powerlifting and gymnastics.Says it all.
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/201...
fandango_c said:
mattikake said:
It's a fad. Google "crossfit injury". I got over 4 million hits...
Says it all.
The injury rate for CrossFit is similar to weightlifting, powerlifting and gymnastics.Says it all.
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/201...
Crossfit is for plebs out for a bit of fitness fun under the guidance of a trainer. Injury is irresponsible.
I'm on the fence - the idea is great but the execution is questionable. I mean, I love the way they mix weights with cardio. I do the same. I just call it "training" or "exercise". I like the idea of the culture, everyone encouraging others - that's how gyms should be. I think the coaches need more... coaching.
As an aside, that motto "outrun a lifter, outlift a runner" - sounds clever but it's fking stupid. Think about it.
As an aside, that motto "outrun a lifter, outlift a runner" - sounds clever but it's fking stupid. Think about it.
Crossfit is the jack of all trades and master of none. If you want size, strength, power or endurance (anaerobic or aerobic) there are scientifically proven training regimes used by Olympians and world champions in every discipline that can be applied. There is no Crossfit instructor to any British Olympic Team, nor to any elite sportspeople that I've heard of. Believe me if those guys had anything to gain from Crossfit, they'd be using it. That's not to say some don't meddle, but they'd be foolish to play with injury when their career depends on good health.
Funnily enough I'm friends with a Crossfit instructor and he happily admits that Crossfit is a flash in the pan, but his recommendation to a beginner is just don't push yourself too hard to start. He's a nice lad in his last year at Uni doing a S&C Degree - which is surprising because there's huge gaps in his knowledge.
Funnily enough I'm friends with a Crossfit instructor and he happily admits that Crossfit is a flash in the pan, but his recommendation to a beginner is just don't push yourself too hard to start. He's a nice lad in his last year at Uni doing a S&C Degree - which is surprising because there's huge gaps in his knowledge.
fandango_c said:
The injury rate for CrossFit is similar to weightlifting, powerlifting and gymnastics.
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/201...
You're not comparing like for like. Crossfit is an exercise, the others are training programs. I had a look on EBSCO - the UK database - for other articles on Crossfit that 'look' positively at injury rates. There are none. I had a look at the paper you linked and there's a some very noticeable problems with it. But first and foremost, bizarrely, incredibly, researchers ask people on a Crossfit forum for their injury experiences? Do you think it might have occurred to researchers that most people badly or chronically injured whilst doing Crossfit would no longer have any interest in the sport and thus have no interest in the website? I mean come on this is basic stuff. Here's an idea - let's do some research into something but we want a favourable outcome - I know! We'll simply ask questions on a dedicated forum for fans!http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/201...
Anyway can't be arsed stating the obvious to sheep. Here's someone most have heard of - Rippetoe on Crossfit. The article's entitled the Good Bad and Ugly, and there's not much Good...
http://www.t-nation.com/training/crossfit-the-good...
goldblum said:
Hoofy said:
goldblum said:
He's a nice lad in his last year at Uni doing a S&C Degree - which is surprising because there's huge gaps in his knowledge.
Funny how my thought process changed as I read that sentence."Coo... oh."
Hoofy said:
goldblum said:
Hoofy said:
goldblum said:
He's a nice lad in his last year at Uni doing a S&C Degree - which is surprising because there's huge gaps in his knowledge.
Funny how my thought process changed as I read that sentence."Coo... oh."
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