coming off co-codamol

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Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
Migraine is probably a different kettle of fish - thankfully I don't suffer with those.

Worsening of headache is one of the primary side effects of co-codamol if taken over an extended period of time.

My GP prescribed it to me - I had terrible tension headaches at the back/base of my skull. Four weeks later I went back in and saw a different GP who was astonished that the other doc had prescribed it for a chronic headache. He stuck me onto low doese Imipramine which although a tricyclic antidepressant worked well as an a-typical pain killer.
It can be but I think there are overt similarities for most of us. Complex migraines and auras aside, I'm unaware of any proven physiological difference between the two when causing pain which is case in point (severity aside). Unless you know different of course, I don't know much about neurology.

Yeah, Tryclics are useful. Not being anal but it isn't a painkiller at all, it alters your brain chemistry. I thought they would just use Amitriptyline (sic) so interesting they didn't. Presumably less side effects for a start...

It never ceases to amaze me how little modern medicine appears to know about neurological illness and palliative care. I mean we're still using morphine for fks sake, and Lithium is just a poison. I was telling MTB on Saturday when I worked at the university they were experimenting with Ketamine in bone cancer patients. Talk about out of bloody ideas!

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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They put me onto Amitriptyline once the Imipraine ceased to be effective.

In the end, and after months of pain and misery it got fixed by 3 physio sessions.

The headaches were caused by the muscles and tendons in my neck and shoulder tightening up to a huge extent - 3 (albiet painful) physio sessions and it was gone.

I had to find this out for myself - at no point did anyone in the medical profession suggest it..

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
I had to find this out for myself - at no point did anyone in the medical profession suggest it..
I was going to say! When I read that last paragraph of your last post, I thought, hm, reckon his muscles must be well twisted. Have you thought about a physio/sports masseur/mctimoney chiro - but didn't want to be thought of as a quack smile

moanthebairns

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17,938 posts

198 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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every fking day at 3 they come when infront of a computer.

me thinks it might be my eyes!

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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moanthebairns said:
every fking day at 3 they come when infront of a computer.

me thinks it might be my eyes!
Sounds like it. When did you last have an eye test?


Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Get your eyes tested.
Get an ergonomic assesment done of your workstation. Sounds stupid but it can really help.

Where about is the headache? (aside from in your head...)

I worked through every possible cause - bought new specs, did an ergo assessment of my desk, changed my pillow, then changed my matress, adjusted the car seat, took all manner of drugs.

Turned out to be the muscles in my neck & shoulder. All that money wasted....


moanthebairns

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198 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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last eye test was at school so 15 years ago

wtf is ergonomics computer work station test.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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z4chris99 said:
I love dihydrocodine
You can't beat Oramorph , now that takes pain relief to a new level smile

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Oramorph tastes nasty - the intravenous stuff is far preferable.

moanthebairns

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Monday 24th March 2014
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wow just read up on eye strain and computers, took some blue off the screen and made the screen less bright and instantly my head feels better! not all the way there but much better.....

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
Oramorph tastes nasty - the intravenous stuff is far preferable.
hehe I don't mind the taste at all , and the way you can feel the pain recede is lovely smile

HughS47

572 posts

134 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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You have to go cold turkey and they last about 3 days.

I've just experienced the same after coming off Co-dydramol for wisdom teeth extraction. I previously didn't believe my patients when they said they had analgesia induced headaches. Now I fully sympathise. Nasty things. Paracetamol and ibuprofen don't help the headaches. Good luck.

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

179 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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I spent a lot of 2013 on MR morphine after having enough Oramorph to knock out a horse for a month or so.

Coming off was a real b'stard. Reduced the dose no problem at all but dropping that last pill or two!

Each time it lasted exactly a week and that seems a common experience. The worse thing was the pains in my legs. Weird, undefinable pain that feels like you want to stretch them out and out.

And then, gone. A bizarre set of experiences and not one I am anxious to repeat.

Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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If you want all the fun of codeine but none of the downsides of paracetamol then I hear codeine linctus is where it's at. It works out at something absurd like 600mg of codeine per bottle.

DukeDickson

4,721 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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moanthebairns said:
wow just read up on eye strain and computers, took some blue off the screen and made the screen less bright and instantly my head feels better! not all the way there but much better.....
Causes grief, even if there's nothing inherently wrong with your eyes.
I often suffer and get some lovely migrainey symptoms (or migraines) as a consequence.

I guess everyone differs, but I don't expect to get a decent solution any time soon.

z4chris99

11,279 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Oakey said:
If you want all the fun of codeine but none of the downsides of paracetamol then I hear codeine linctus is where it's at. It works out at something absurd like 600mg of codeine per bottle.
it's hard to get the stuff in the uk, they call it purple dang in the USA it's what all the rappers drink

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Lost soul said:
You can't beat Oramorph , now that takes pain relief to a new level smile
I'd sooner take Heroine.


Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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z4chris99 said:
it's hard to get the stuff in the uk, they call it purple dang in the USA it's what all the rappers drink
http://www.mypharmacist.co.uk/care-codeine-linctus...

I didn't even know it existed tbh and I'm surprised you can buy it without a prescription!

moanthebairns

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17,938 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Oakey said:
z4chris99 said:
it's hard to get the stuff in the uk, they call it purple dang in the USA it's what all the rappers drink
http://www.mypharmacist.co.uk/care-codeine-linctus...

I didn't even know it existed tbh and I'm surprised you can buy it without a prescription!
so a does of that (not over doing it) would make you monged is that what your telling me and I can buy it for 3 quid.....

moanthebairns

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17,938 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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silverthorn2151 said:
I spent a lot of 2013 on MR morphine after having enough Oramorph to knock out a horse for a month or so.

Coming off was a real b'stard. Reduced the dose no problem at all but dropping that last pill or two!

Each time it lasted exactly a week and that seems a common experience. The worse thing was the pains in my legs. Weird, undefinable pain that feels like you want to stretch them out and out.

And then, gone. A bizarre set of experiences and not one I am anxious to repeat.
this the legs, wtf is that all about.

its similar to the pains I have in my legs after drinking, I did a bit research and its dehydration that causes the leg pains, like a good stretch will fix it but it doesnt. I describe it as having hollow legs that need filling as they feel empty.

I had it with the co-codamol but even after bottles of water it just wouldnt go away then bang it did.