Shoulder pain

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wiliferus

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4,060 posts

198 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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For the last few days I've been experiencing some nasty pain in my right shoulder. It's only when I load bear on it, as in lift stuff. I definitely can't pick up my son, and even lifting 4 pints of milk was painful. And by painful I mean eye watering, make an involuntary girly noise sweary type pain - more than I've ever associated with just a pulled muscle.

I can pull and push with my arm without pain, it's purely a load bearing thing, and I can't lay on it either. Being the BH weekend I don't want to bother out of hours GP or minor injuries as I'm sure they're far busier with injured children and sick babies so don't want to waste their time.

I haven't done any thing over the last few days that would risk injury.. No gym or heavy lifting etc.

Any thoughts gents?. And I know, MTFU etc etc smile

Edited by wiliferus on Saturday 19th April 08:32

RedCarsAnonymous

96 posts

120 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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NHS wheels grind exceeding slow in matters like this, so I'd suggest a trip to a pharmacist today (I'm thinking ibuprofen or voltarol pills, alternated with paracetamol, + a microwaveable tartan grain bag), and finding a local private physiotherapist for Tuesday (initial consultation & treatment around £60, follow ups about £45). Avoid putting any load on the shoulder, but on the other hand, don't stop using it completely, you want to keep those muscle fibres warm & the blood flowing. smile

wiliferus

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4,060 posts

198 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Thanks RCA. Voltarol has taken the edge off, didn't make much progress on any appointments though. I'll get on it on Tuesday, meanwhile the lawn mowing and car washing will have to wait! Ah well smile

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

251 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Can you reach as far up your back with the painful arm as before i.e. Try to scratch between your shoulder blades ??

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Rotar cuff maybe?

wiliferus

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4,060 posts

198 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Simon Brooks said:
Can you reach as far up your back with the painful arm as before i.e. Try to scratch between your shoulder blades ??
Just tried... No chance. Lots of pain to the centre and front of my shoulder when I did that!

What does that mean?

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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It means you visit the doctor.

wiliferus

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198 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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goldblum said:
It means you visit the doctor.
Yea, I knew that... Bank holiday weekends aren't the best time for that! I'll be going Tuesday.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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wiliferus said:
goldblum said:
It means you visit the doctor.
Yea, I knew that... Bank holiday weekends aren't the best time for that! I'll be going Tuesday.
At a guess I'd say that you are suffering some sort of tendonitus resulting in impingement of the long head of the biceps tendon. This is because a) the pain has come on suddenly and b)the restriction of movement, and c) you say it's at the front of the shoulder. Lots of other things it could be though.

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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wiliferus said:
Simon Brooks said:
Can you reach as far up your back with the painful arm as before i.e. Try to scratch between your shoulder blades ??
Just tried... No chance. Lots of pain to the centre and front of my shoulder when I did that!

What does that mean?
Sounds like it could be frozen shoulder, your symptoms are exactly the same as the onesI had about a year ago, now much better following consultant intervention (steroid injection) and Physio, however not yet convinced I want to have it manually manipulated under a general anaesthetic to regain total manoeuvrability

I'm not medically qualified and would suggest a visit to your GP as soon as the Easter break is over, however


944fan

4,962 posts

185 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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In my experience GPs are utterly useless when it comes to musculoskeletal problems. They will prescribe pain killers/anti inflammatory and tell you to jog on, repeatedly.

I hurt my shoulder last year and it was stopping me swimming. First quack told me to take Naproxen and to keep swimming but slow it down. 2nd one told me to take less Naproxen and to stop swimming at all. Both refused steroid injection. 3rd one more of the same BS.

£100 and half an hour at a private sports clinic, steroid injected in to the shoulder (fking hurt) and away. Problems all sorted.

If you have Bupa or don't mind stumping up the cash then go straight for the private option.

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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944fan said:
In my experience GPs are utterly useless when it comes to musculoskeletal problems. They will prescribe pain killers/anti inflammatory and tell you to jog on, repeatedly.

I hurt my shoulder last year and it was stopping me swimming. First quack told me to take Naproxen and to keep swimming but slow it down. 2nd one told me to take less Naproxen and to stop swimming at all. Both refused steroid injection. 3rd one more of the same BS.

£100 and half an hour at a private sports clinic, steroid injected in to the shoulder (fking hurt) and away. Problems all sorted.

If you have Bupa or don't mind stumping up the cash then go straight for the private option.
I was going to leave the steroid injection pain out :-)

Cheib

23,213 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Talking of shoulders I dislocated mine a couple of weeks ago skiing...totally innocuous fall.

I have to say having someone try and put your shoulder back in using his foot in your armpit whilst moving your arm around and asking you to "relax and think nice things" was one of the more unpleasant things I have done in my life! Thank god for general anesthetic......


wiliferus

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4,060 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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GP has said it's a frozen shoulder. Gave me my treatment options as above. I've got some basic medical insurance through work so going to investigate that first, might be able to get some free physio out if it.

I'm not liking the sound of very painful injections!!

Thanks for all the advice gents smile

Bolebroke

373 posts

186 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Dislocated my right shoulder Monday afternoon. Consultant surgeon in Poole says last thing you should do is operate on shoulders - high risk and no guaranteed success...rusty screws and stretched ligatures etc require readjustments. Rest and recover at your own pace for 6-9 months then revisit. He reckoned 90% get full range of movement back once scar tissue has formed and pain dies down. And the 2 inch protruding clavicle on one side is a great talking point!

maxrider1

91 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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I'm off work at the minute having had 2 years of this sh!t and now recovering from a major rotator cuff operation.

Get to a private physio and get yourself a scan. Until you get this you'll have months of physio and injections that will do nothing but give temporary relief. Until I had the scan this is what I went through, I was getting weaker and weaker down the gym and getting all sorts of random pain.

After the op the surgeon said it was a very large complete tear that had to be stitched and reattached to the bone, my bicep was also knackered and another tendon that I can't remember the name of! I'm now 1/2 way through at least 3 months off work and 6 - 9 months of rehab.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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A friend of mine went to her GP with shoulder pain and was diagnosed with breast cancer.

CoolHands

18,604 posts

195 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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I found I got a lot of shoulder / neck pain form using a mouse (for a pc). I've now trained myself to use it with my left hand and I'm much better. So what I'm saying is while you have a problem start trying to use your mouse left-handed as IMO it will exacerbate your problem if you use a computer / surf the net a lot.

Cheib

23,213 posts

175 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Bolebroke said:
Dislocated my right shoulder Monday afternoon. Consultant surgeon in Poole says last thing you should do is operate on shoulders - high risk and no guaranteed success...rusty screws and stretched ligatures etc require readjustments. Rest and recover at your own pace for 6-9 months then revisit. He reckoned 90% get full range of movement back once scar tissue has formed and pain dies down. And the 2 inch protruding clavicle on one side is a great talking point!
Bit of a generalisation, shoulder is the most complicated joint in the body and there are many types of injuries!

I've got a labral tear and a large piece of cartilege loose following my dislocation....they wouldn't operate for the latter but the former means I am going under the knife on Wednesday and they will remove the cartilege at the same time.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Cheib said:
Bolebroke said:
Dislocated my right shoulder Monday afternoon. Consultant surgeon in Poole says last thing you should do is operate on shoulders - high risk and no guaranteed success...rusty screws and stretched ligatures etc require readjustments. Rest and recover at your own pace for 6-9 months then revisit. He reckoned 90% get full range of movement back once scar tissue has formed and pain dies down. And the 2 inch protruding clavicle on one side is a great talking point!
Bit of a generalisation, shoulder is the most complicated joint in the body and there are many types of injuries!

I've got a labral tear and a large piece of cartilege loose following my dislocation....they wouldn't operate for the latter but the former means I am going under the knife on Wednesday and they will remove the cartilege at the same time.
Bolebroke is right about 'no guarenteed success'. I guess with a labral tear you have no option though.