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Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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goldblum said:
Eleven said:
I am 10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical.
Who does the caliper test on you BTW?
The nutritionist.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
I am 10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical.
Who does the caliper test on you BTW?
The nutritionist.
Whose explained how the results are interpreted and shown how individual results (one site) are meaningless?

Eleven

Original Poster:

26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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goldblum said:
Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
I am 10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical.
Who does the caliper test on you BTW?
The nutritionist.
Whose explained how the results are interpreted and shown how individual results (one site) are meaningless?
He measures 11 sites.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
I am 10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical.
Who does the caliper test on you BTW?
The nutritionist.
Whose explained how the results are interpreted and shown how individual results (one site) are meaningless?
He measures 11 sites.
Yes but I rather meant that the tester explained to you that results from a single site are meaningless? I don't understand why you mention you are "10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical" as if this is a surprise?

Eleven

Original Poster:

26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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goldblum said:
Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
goldblum said:
Eleven said:
I am 10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical.
Who does the caliper test on you BTW?
The nutritionist.
Whose explained how the results are interpreted and shown how individual results (one site) are meaningless?
He measures 11 sites.
Yes but I rather meant that the tester explained to you that results from a single site are meaningless? I don't understand why you mention you are "10 in some site measurements but 23 at the umbilical" as if this is a surprise?
Not a surprise, in fact only just worthy of a mention. What is more interesting possibly is that my BF has become more focused on my umbilical, which I think is a response to magnesium (though I am not 100% sure).


goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Eleven said:
Not a surprise, in fact only just worthy of a mention. What is more interesting possibly is that my BF has become more focused on my umbilical, which I think is a response to magnesium (though I am not 100% sure).
Do you mean you've lost more fat at other areas than your abdomen? Isn't that to be expected?

Eleven

Original Poster:

26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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goldblum said:
Eleven said:
Not a surprise, in fact only just worthy of a mention. What is more interesting possibly is that my BF has become more focused on my umbilical, which I think is a response to magnesium (though I am not 100% sure).
Do you mean you've lost more fat at other areas than your abdomen? Isn't that to be expected?
Don't know. However the loss of fat in other places is more marked than it has been for a while, especially pecs.


Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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You'll have a genetic disposition to retain fat in certain areas over others, the stomach area is very common in men so not really surprising.

Digger

14,677 posts

191 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Halb said:
Asterix said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2DFfaTvjI

Interesting vid regarding body fat.

10minsbut worth the data at the end.

What seriously surprised me was how little the skeleton weighed!
He is quite a small bloke, I was surprised it was so much. I am guessing the density helped.
It was a great vid, I guessed him at 7%. biggrin
I'm yet to jump in a bodpod, but does anyone know if we have any of these types of scanners (featured in the vid) in the UK (London) ?

Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Flibble said:
You'll have a genetic disposition to retain fat in certain areas over others, the stomach area is very common in men so not really surprising.
In fact I have usually tended to store fat all over, however at present it is vanishing from everywhere but my umbilical. This is since I've been taking a lot of magnesium.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Eleven said:
Flibble said:
You'll have a genetic disposition to retain fat in certain areas over others, the stomach area is very common in men so not really surprising.
In fact I have usually tended to store fat all over, however at present it is vanishing from everywhere but my umbilical. This is since I've been taking a lot of magnesium.
Regardless of magnesium intake the last place men usually lose fat from is the abdomen.

Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Okay, so only nine days since my last weigh-in. The intervening period has been spent adhering as closely to my macros as possible. Alcohol has been verboten except for Friday afternoon / evening. I am still taking 2.5g of magnesium daily. I am training 4 days per week.

Today I was 15.1% BF at 90.5kg, down 0.3%.

I am looking leaner and 15% seems to be something of a waypoint in as much that when clothed I look slim, fit and toned. I am sure most blokes in their forties would be quite happy, but I am still aiming for 11% (entirely arbitrarily). I anticipate that at that % I will have a very good physique, though it remains to be seen whether my face and neck will tolerate it without looking scraggy.

On the advice of the nutritionist I am taking one week off from training and I'm relaxing my diet, aiming for 70% compliance. I am concerned that I will put on fat, he seems to think this isn't a given and that the break will help my training.

I will also have the occasional drink this week. It is clear to me now that alcohol is pretty much the nemesis of fat loss, even in relatively small quantities. It is since I knocked it on the head that I have started noticing proper gains.

So, I started at 19.1%, I am 15.1% today. I am almost exactly half way to my target. Early gains were easy wins like re-introducing carbs, taking magnesium and resolving sleep (did I say easy wins?). I don't think that the next 4% is going to be hugely challenging, but more so than the last.

I received a delivery of yohimbine from the US yesterday and after this week off I am going to give it a try.

I'll be having my fat measured immediately after my week off and will report back.

Digger

14,677 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Interesting stuff. A couple of questions.

What sort of training are you doing at the moment and will you be adapting and altering it to help achieve 11% body fat. . . . or will that be left to nutrition only to achieve?

Also did you notice much of a difference when you started taking magnesium? I'm guessing you're taking it just before bedtime?

Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Digger said:
Interesting stuff. A couple of questions.

What sort of training are you doing at the moment and will you be adapting and altering it to help achieve 11% body fat. . . . or will that be left to nutrition only to achieve?

Also did you notice much of a difference when you started taking magnesium? I'm guessing you're taking it just before bedtime?
I have dropped all cardio, I just do weights. But I only take 40 seconds between sets. I do split routines which broadly are upper and lower body each trained twice a week, with some overlap in exercises, some only once a week. I don't plan to deviate from this course outside of possibly modifying how I organise the splits. I don't plan on re-introducing cardio for now. So, to answer your question weight training and nutrition only for now.

Magnesium: I spread it throughout the day with more immediately before bed. I noticed immediately having to use the toilet a lot and very swiftly, this has now reduced I am pleased to say. In terms of benefits I noticed an immediate gain in visible muscle mass and SEEMINGLY how fat was distributed. That level of magnesium intake is supposed to be short-term, but I have carried on a little longer to help with sleep. On the subject of which my sleep was initially excellent as a result of the magnesium but the effect has begun to fade.



BenM77

2,835 posts

164 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Bumped into a mate who has recently started taking ZMA. Told me he was getting massive boners!


Seems that ZMA does more than help you sleep wink

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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In, The People Who Made Me Spend they had a lengthy segment on HGH for ageing men who wanna stay young.
Some scary jaws on that show.

Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Halb said:
In, The People Who Made Me Spend they had a lengthy segment on HGH for ageing men who wanna stay young.
Some scary jaws on that show.
What are the effects of HGH?

roboxm3

2,417 posts

195 months

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Eleven said:
What are the effects of HGH?
Makes muscle and bone grow.

Eleven

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26,287 posts

222 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Halb said:
Makes muscle and bone grow.
Sorry I meant side effects but I have looked it up now I have access to a PC.

There was a chap at our gym who was over 50 and looked late 30s. I suspect he was using something because he had red spots across his shoulders. I presumed it was steroids, but might he have been using HGH?