Body fat target.
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Eleven said:
Sorry I meant side effects but I have looked it up now I have access to a PC.
There was a chap at our gym who was over 50 and looked late 30s. I suspect he was using something because he had red spots across his shoulders. I presumed it was steroids, but might he have been using HGH?
He might just have looked young for his age, it happens. There was a chap at our gym who was over 50 and looked late 30s. I suspect he was using something because he had red spots across his shoulders. I presumed it was steroids, but might he have been using HGH?
Okay, I took 12 days off training and strict nutritional intake. I spent time with the family, doing family type things. This involved pretty much no exercise, alcohol every day (though not massive volumes), ice creams every day and a so-so diet, albeit that I ate mainly white meat and fish. Today I am 16.8% BF again.
To look at me you'd probably not notice the difference. The sites that have increased are on my legs mostly, these areas relating to liver function. Not that I've been drinking heavily and causing cirrhosis or anything like that, it's simply that these sites show tell-tale signs that I've slipped from the path of righteousness and that my liver is processing differently.
Today was also the last day of the 12 weeks with the nutritionist chap. I have decided not to continue seeing him regularly because I think I have learned enough to go it alone for the next 12 weeks and we are agreed that the basics of a plan are in place. I have diarised to see him in October.
Going forwards I will, for 10 days now, go low-carb high fat. Then I will revert to carbs on training days with a re-feed day as and when I feel I need it. Alcohol will remain off the menu 6 days per week.
Once I am back in fat burning mode I intend to try yohimbine, tomorrow however I will be taking L-carnitine in the hope of persuading my body to more swiftly begin to consume fat. I usually feel like crap the first couple of days after cutting out carbs, I am told this may help.
I started this process for two main reasons, firstly to lower my BF% to 11% and I think I now have the tools to do that by this time next year. I could do it much quicker but I want to do it without feeling cranky, I want it to be sustainable and I don't want to cause myself too many aesthetic challenges.
The second reason, and the main reason actually, was that I was eating very little, not losing fat and finding myself weak when exercising. I am now able to eat loads more, feel strong and put more effort into exercise whilst still losing body fat.
Halb said:
Yohimbine? That's one of those 'whizz' type things?
It's a monoamine oxidase inhibitor derived from tree bark (apparently). I haven't used it before but I am expecting it to be a bit speedy. However if it messes with my sleep I won't be using it for long. Keeping my sleep intact and protecting general well-being are more important than fast fat loss.
GranderTransit said:
The methods employed uses either a 12 site skinfold assessment or more recently blood tests.
The advice given comes down to the knowledge of the practitioner. The results of these tests plus the use of questioning gives us the basis to form the advice we give. The better the questioning, the greater the knowledge, (+ client compliance) the better the results that the practitioner can get with that client.
So feel free to ask questions about Biosignature Modulation. I will answer questions that are within my knowledge, other I will try to obtain answers from people with more knowledge.
Are you still doing the biosig thing?The advice given comes down to the knowledge of the practitioner. The results of these tests plus the use of questioning gives us the basis to form the advice we give. The better the questioning, the greater the knowledge, (+ client compliance) the better the results that the practitioner can get with that client.
So feel free to ask questions about Biosignature Modulation. I will answer questions that are within my knowledge, other I will try to obtain answers from people with more knowledge.
My target now is my fat belly. It's really hard to get rid of fat in this area 'cause every time I exercise I have back pain. So I was looking for an alternative ways to get rid of it. I read about coolsculpting nyc procedure. I want to try, I'm fed up with diets they are worthless.
Edited by Greys0n on Wednesday 28th March 09:25
I was a bit bored at work and had a read through the thread .. holy crap that was hard work.
It's no wonder the fitness industry is in the state it's in, how poor 90% of advice is with a massive heap of unproven science and bro chucked in.
It's really not that hard, and if it is, you're either over estimating your calorie intake (more important) or not working hard enough in the gym (slightly less important).
It's no wonder the fitness industry is in the state it's in, how poor 90% of advice is with a massive heap of unproven science and bro chucked in.
It's really not that hard, and if it is, you're either over estimating your calorie intake (more important) or not working hard enough in the gym (slightly less important).
Greys0n said:
My target now is my fat belly. It's really hard to get rid of fat in this area 'cause every time I exercise I have back pain. So I was looking for an alternative ways to get rid of it. I read about coolsculpting nyc procedure. I want to try, I fed up with diets they are worthless.
Diet will do it, it's not worthless- even the most stubborn fat will shift if you persevere- you're looking for an easy way out.One of my buddies the last day sent me a picture of a supplement you add to coffee .. nice flashy packet, lots of claims like 'targets fat', 'keto bomb' etc. etc. He's a bit bro and cries if he misses his protein shake golden window after the gym.
I asked him to explain to me, how adding 150 calories of powder to a coffee could help you lose weight ..
I asked him to explain to me, how adding 150 calories of powder to a coffee could help you lose weight ..
Avalyn said:
One of my buddies the last day sent me a picture of a supplement you add to coffee .. nice flashy packet, lots of claims like 'targets fat', 'keto bomb' etc. etc. He's a bit bro and cries if he misses his protein shake golden window after the gym.
I asked him to explain to me, how adding 150 calories of powder to a coffee could help you lose weight ..
I asked him to explain to me, how adding 150 calories of powder to a coffee could help you lose weight ..
they're anti-calories...like anti-matter?
Just skimmed this thread and laughed out loud at parts of it. Mumbo-jumbo strikes again!
The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
ORD said:
Just skimmed this thread and laughed out loud at parts of it. Mumbo-jumbo strikes again!
The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
The lowest I got was 13.2%. I think I looked better at 15%.The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
ORD said:
Just skimmed this thread and laughed out loud at parts of it. Mumbo-jumbo strikes again!
The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
Shut up fattie The unrealistic expectations are also pretty silly. Anyone with 20% body fat should be thinking about how to get to 15%, not 10%. I have rarely got to around 10% since I have been a proper grown up with a proper job, and it was always actively unpleasant (reducing from about 12%). Massive case of diminishing returns once your body fat is in the low teens. It is so much harder to be super lean than to be merely in decent shape. And there are practically no health benefits to having 10% rather than 12% (or even 14%).
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