Low carb, high fat/high carb, low fat/etc
Discussion
What do you lot think of this?
http://www.reddit.com/r/fitness30plus/comments/2cb...
Low carbing made him diabetic, he claims.
http://www.reddit.com/r/fitness30plus/comments/2cb...
Low carbing made him diabetic, he claims.
So far we've had answers confirming most combinations have proven effective. Seems to me that it's maybe more to do with just beginning a different regime means you've given it some thought and will try harder to eat clean(er) and fewer calories.
Do ANYTHING different to the what you've been doing (that's put you in the position you want/need to change) and it'll probably work - so long as you walk the walk.
Do ANYTHING different to the what you've been doing (that's put you in the position you want/need to change) and it'll probably work - so long as you walk the walk.
I think it's simpler than that - by reducing carbs, it's an easy way to reduce your calorie intake and for anyone looking at losing weight, it will give you the results you want, at least initially.
I mean, carbs are a really easy way of accessing calories, which may suit your goals or not.
I mean, carbs are a really easy way of accessing calories, which may suit your goals or not.
grumbledoak said:
I try to stick to saturated animal fats and olive oil. I don't go as far as actively avoiding vegetable oils. I do avoid Trans fats though.
So, it's 20% fat mince and full fat milk, etc.
Get some coconut oil from Costco, far better to cook with than olive oil which is not great above certain temperatures. So, it's 20% fat mince and full fat milk, etc.
I always wondered if that would happen. Not a fan of coconuts... on everything.Digger said:
Out of interest what fats are you guys consuming, in terms of which foods?
Some of mine include bacon, nut butters, avocados.
Lots of coconut oil, fresh creams, full fat milk/cheese, plenty of meat, nuts, greek yogurt, basically just whole foods with nothing taken out so no artificial crap has to be added back in to make it taste as it should (which it never does). Some of mine include bacon, nut butters, avocados.
What carbs I do have come from plenty of vegetables mainly that grow above the ground and as I train 3-4 times a week (weights) and play football once a week I have sweet potatoes 2-3 times a week as well.
My potato mash is now leek and cauliflower mash which to me tastes far better, creamy cabbage is also a big favourite in our house as well as cheesy broccoli. If we have sausage we get the 85% pork sausage from Costco, as for bacon anything will do
LordGrover said:
The problem with coconut oil though, it tastes of coconuts. 
I know it's good for high temperatures and is supposed to be dead healthy and all that but I've tried several brands and they all make everything taste of coconuts. Each to their own.
True, although my taste buds must be fI know it's good for high temperatures and is supposed to be dead healthy and all that but I've tried several brands and they all make everything taste of coconuts. Each to their own.
ked up as I can hardly taste the stuff when I cook with it. It's known to be a fat burner and as such people eat it from the spoon on a daily basis
Warnie said:
Lots of coconut oil, fresh creams, full fat milk/cheese, plenty of meat, nuts, greek yogurt, basically just whole foods with nothing taken out so no artificial crap has to be added back in to make it taste as it should (which it never does).
In a nutshell. 
Faff about with macros, cals, etc as much as you like but if it's in a packet with a list of ingredients as long as your arm it's probably better on the shelf than inside your belly.
LordGrover said:
Warnie said:
Lots of coconut oil, fresh creams, full fat milk/cheese, plenty of meat, nuts, greek yogurt, basically just whole foods with nothing taken out so no artificial crap has to be added back in to make it taste as it should (which it never does).
In a nutshell. Faff about with macros, cals, etc as much as you like but if it's in a packet with a list of ingredients as long as your arm it's probably better on the shelf than inside your belly.
LordGrover said:
In a nutshell.
Faff about with macros, cals, etc as much as you like but if it's in a packet with a list of ingredients as long as your arm it's probably better on the shelf than inside your belly.
This. Your body loves not having to filter out all the crap and rewards you with better skin, more energy, less toxins to fart out and a naturally controlled low body fat.Faff about with macros, cals, etc as much as you like but if it's in a packet with a list of ingredients as long as your arm it's probably better on the shelf than inside your belly.
What's not to like? it's not like were having to eat weight watcher ready meals, down shake after shake of slimfast or eat low fat/fat free tasteless plastic food is it? If everybody cooked from scratch and ate whole foods, they would feel full and not crave the rubbish that makes them tubby. Diabetes would also reduce so the government wouldn't be offering gastric bands to all the fatties out there who can't be arsed to educate themselves on what they're sticking down their necks.
My daughter does cooking at school which is great apart from all they seem to bake are muffins and cakes
Hoofy said:
And in 6 months gain it all back from massive cravings followed by a binge/quit like most people do (everyone except you). This is exactly what most permadieters do.
That's the thing though Hoofy, after a few weeks the cravings go away. The fat makes you feel full and satisfied so you don't feel hungry all the time. True, most lack the willpower and the want to change to get through the first few weeks for their body to adapt. But for me you should educate yourself first about food, which most are not willing to do, so end up slipping back into their old ways without realising it.Warnie said:
That's the thing though Hoofy, after a few weeks the cravings go away. The fat makes you feel full and satisfied so you don't feel hungry all the time. True, most lack the willpower and the want to change to get through the first few weeks for their body to adapt. But for me you should educate yourself first about food, which most are not willing to do, so end up slipping back into their old ways without realising it.
Problem is that (1) for most I don't think the cravings do really go away - as you suggest, it's psychological
(2) you have to avoid social situations or everyone thinks you enjoy driving Priuses.
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