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I got the idea that a lot of these moves were not isolating certian muscles but compound and hitting many muscule groups in one, some more than others obviously.
My personal prefrence would be to not up the weight and stay static until you can lift that well without the belt, my theory would be that it would allow all the other muscles to catch up.
But i've only really started on this particular program recently not up to the heady heights of 85kg yet. I am just trying to keep form neat and trying to make sure all moves are exactly the same.
My personal prefrence would be to not up the weight and stay static until you can lift that well without the belt, my theory would be that it would allow all the other muscles to catch up.
But i've only really started on this particular program recently not up to the heady heights of 85kg yet. I am just trying to keep form neat and trying to make sure all moves are exactly the same.
I think that next month, when I've completed a year of training, I will try the 5x5 for six months, and concentrate fully on Squats (and variants), Deadlifts, Bench Press, Overhead Press, Rows and pull ups.
My training routine has morphed into a plethora of (probably) pointless axillaries to supplement the 3 day twice a week split routine, when I know the heavy compounds are the real meat of the training...
My training routine has morphed into a plethora of (probably) pointless axillaries to supplement the 3 day twice a week split routine, when I know the heavy compounds are the real meat of the training...
chris watton said:
I think that next month, when I've completed a year of training, I will try the 5x5 for six months, and concentrate fully on Squats (and variants), Deadlifts, Bench Press, Overhead Press, Rows and pull ups.
My training routine has morphed into a plethora of (probably) pointless axillaries to supplement the 3 day twice a week split routine, when I know the heavy compounds are the real meat of the training...
Do you have any goals in mind? Strength, size, a combination? My training routine has morphed into a plethora of (probably) pointless axillaries to supplement the 3 day twice a week split routine, when I know the heavy compounds are the real meat of the training...
Art0ir said:
Do you have any goals in mind? Strength, size, a combination?
Both - because I neglected to do Deadlifts for the first 6 months, I really need to try and 'catch up' and bring these up to speed.If there's one thing I have noticed during the past year, lifting heavier weights is more beneficial, but it takes more out of you...
I got a belt at the start of the year. I was sceptical as to whether using one was worthwhile or not and I have to say it has transformed my training, much more confidence when lifting. My approach is to only use the belt for the final warm up and work sets. For info I was around 1.5x bodyweight squat when I introduced it.
I also wear it for press & deadlifts and find it just as useful.
I also wear it for press & deadlifts and find it just as useful.
Well thats me 4 weeks and 1 day into the program.
Bodyweight 85kg
Squat: 85kg (1x Bw already)
Bench: 50Kg
Row: 55Kg
OHP: 32.5Kg
Deadlift: 80kg (5 sets of 3) (did then manage 2x100Kg)
I'm currently really happy with my progress, I'm now beyond where i ever was when i did it before 2 years ago
but then again i am like 10kg heavier.
When i first did 5x5 program i stalled at 30kg ohp so very happy that i've hit 5x5 at 32.5kg so far without any stalls.
Squats are starting to feel like i'll stall but we have been going up by 5kg per session so expecting a plateau and then drop to 2.5kg per session.
My thighs are already too big for my size 32 jeans so up to 34 waist.
Bodyweight 85kg
Squat: 85kg (1x Bw already)
Bench: 50Kg
Row: 55Kg
OHP: 32.5Kg
Deadlift: 80kg (5 sets of 3) (did then manage 2x100Kg)
I'm currently really happy with my progress, I'm now beyond where i ever was when i did it before 2 years ago
but then again i am like 10kg heavier.
When i first did 5x5 program i stalled at 30kg ohp so very happy that i've hit 5x5 at 32.5kg so far without any stalls.
Squats are starting to feel like i'll stall but we have been going up by 5kg per session so expecting a plateau and then drop to 2.5kg per session.
My thighs are already too big for my size 32 jeans so up to 34 waist.
Rusty1 said:
yeah doing sl 5x5
but when chatting to my friend who is a very skilled PT,
he was saying doing 5x3 works very well as gives you the weight
but not too tiring by doing too many reps.
I read somewhere that you only do 1x deads is because you have already squatted and worked the legs. Anyway when you get heavy there is a warm up.but when chatting to my friend who is a very skilled PT,
he was saying doing 5x3 works very well as gives you the weight
but not too tiring by doing too many reps.
Started this today after 3 months off the gym (used to do similar, mostly compound stuff, but in a much less structured way).
Feels weird squatting just the bar for 5x5, knowing I could probably do so at 65+kg, but I guess it'll start getting harder quickly enough.
Any tips for the row? Don't know whether it's my height, proportions or flexibility, but there's no way I can put the bar back down each rep (particularly on 5kg plates) without significantly altering my form.
Feels weird squatting just the bar for 5x5, knowing I could probably do so at 65+kg, but I guess it'll start getting harder quickly enough.
Any tips for the row? Don't know whether it's my height, proportions or flexibility, but there's no way I can put the bar back down each rep (particularly on 5kg plates) without significantly altering my form.
LoFiHamster2 said:
Started this today after 3 months off the gym (used to do similar, mostly compound stuff, but in a much less structured way).
Feels weird squatting just the bar for 5x5, knowing I could probably do so at 65+kg, but I guess it'll start getting harder quickly enough.
Any tips for the row? Don't know whether it's my height, proportions or flexibility, but there's no way I can put the bar back down each rep (particularly on 5kg plates) without significantly altering my form.
This!Feels weird squatting just the bar for 5x5, knowing I could probably do so at 65+kg, but I guess it'll start getting harder quickly enough.
Any tips for the row? Don't know whether it's my height, proportions or flexibility, but there's no way I can put the bar back down each rep (particularly on 5kg plates) without significantly altering my form.
I am the same the squat and benchpress are not tough at that weight, but a welcome way of checking form is spot on, but the row is far more tricky, odd that there is more wieght than a squat too!
DervVW said:
There was some pretty compelling links on the use of belts, especially once the weight goes up a while back...
As to shoes, I await an expert idea...
Guy coaching me squats 245kg at 74kg. Guy that owns the gym squats 265kg at 82.5kg. They both use weightlifting shoes, I followed suit As to shoes, I await an expert idea...
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