Detoxing, health risks and work
Discussion
I'm not suggesting I'm going to do a faddy diet.
I've already started - cut all processed crap out out my diet, removed all caffeine, nicotine and alcohol. Eat 3 normal meals a day. For a long time I have not done this. I've missed 2 main meals in a day and then gorged and 2 large dominoes meatalicious with bbq sauce. So now I'm having something like: 2 weetabix with skimmed milk and herbal tea, followed by lunch which is something like soup or a single sandwich, and then dinner which was a small potion of pasta with tomota sauce and some beef mince and spices, and a yogurt.
All whilst drinking lots of water and herbal teas.
Oh and I've downloaded insanity. Including the health guide. So I'll be starting that on sunday (need to go shopping). Only problem is the dealings in my lounge aren't high enough for me to do the jumps.
Current weight is 16"4 stone bang on, and 6"0. Which makes me obese. I'm not obese, as I've got a reasonable amount of muscle mass (not sure how).
Hoping with the diet and insanity I'll be down to 14 stone in 2 months. We shall see. Cutting everything crap out I reckon I'm going to half the number of calories my body is getting whilst adding regular exercise.
We shall see. Can't see many downsides to it though. Apart from at the moment - got a headache and feel rubbish. Oh well, better than walking into an early grave.
I've also got a road bike and a static cycling thing you can attach it to. I'm thinking about replacing all my carbs for protein, and then doing an hour on that each day. I've set myself a goal to get my body fat down to less than 15% in two months.
I've already started - cut all processed crap out out my diet, removed all caffeine, nicotine and alcohol. Eat 3 normal meals a day. For a long time I have not done this. I've missed 2 main meals in a day and then gorged and 2 large dominoes meatalicious with bbq sauce. So now I'm having something like: 2 weetabix with skimmed milk and herbal tea, followed by lunch which is something like soup or a single sandwich, and then dinner which was a small potion of pasta with tomota sauce and some beef mince and spices, and a yogurt.
All whilst drinking lots of water and herbal teas.
Oh and I've downloaded insanity. Including the health guide. So I'll be starting that on sunday (need to go shopping). Only problem is the dealings in my lounge aren't high enough for me to do the jumps.
Current weight is 16"4 stone bang on, and 6"0. Which makes me obese. I'm not obese, as I've got a reasonable amount of muscle mass (not sure how).
Hoping with the diet and insanity I'll be down to 14 stone in 2 months. We shall see. Cutting everything crap out I reckon I'm going to half the number of calories my body is getting whilst adding regular exercise.
We shall see. Can't see many downsides to it though. Apart from at the moment - got a headache and feel rubbish. Oh well, better than walking into an early grave.
I've also got a road bike and a static cycling thing you can attach it to. I'm thinking about replacing all my carbs for protein, and then doing an hour on that each day. I've set myself a goal to get my body fat down to less than 15% in two months.
Edited by photosnob on Saturday 27th September 00:52
Hoofy said:
As I said...
You've basically done what every permafat woman has done since the 1970s.
In fairness I haven't. I stopped drinking completely for a reasonable amount of time. I have also stopped smoking conventional cigarettes for over 3 months now. You've basically done what every permafat woman has done since the 1970s.
There are reasons for me wanting to make a change in myself long term that I won't go into here.
However I have no intention of doing something for a month and then giving up. Not everyone is able to drop one vice at a time. I know that I need to change it all or everything will stay the same.
photosnob said:
Hoofy said:
As I said...
You've basically done what every permafat woman has done since the 1970s.
In fairness I haven't. I stopped drinking completely for a reasonable amount of time. I have also stopped smoking conventional cigarettes for over 3 months now. You've basically done what every permafat woman has done since the 1970s.
There are reasons for me wanting to make a change in myself long term that I won't go into here.
However I have no intention of doing something for a month and then giving up. Not everyone is able to drop one vice at a time. I know that I need to change it all or everything will stay the same.
goodluck - i reckon the blog is a good idea - i'm gonna do it for my month - more for me really as it forces me to to and think exactly what im eating.
rec reading ultra man by rich roll ( he was an alcoholic now one of the fittest guys there is ) and listening to his podcasts for some inspiration
if ure bored humour me by reading china study and make ure own mind up or watch forks over knives.
rec reading ultra man by rich roll ( he was an alcoholic now one of the fittest guys there is ) and listening to his podcasts for some inspiration
if ure bored humour me by reading china study and make ure own mind up or watch forks over knives.
Edited by petemurphy on Saturday 27th September 10:21
I was leaving the army after my 22 years and in the lady year had let myself go due to injury and not giving a f**k, however I was at last two months given the opportunity to serve another 8 years.
Firstly I sorted my injury out and was 94kg at that point, I started cycling and running to work every day, some light weights and squeeze in 20 press ups aboy 3 times a day randomly,albeit ony 5.5km each way, also started the 2 day fasting diet and cutting down massively on snacks.
A year down the line I'm now 77kg, that 17kg loss and im really fit for my age, I'm still enjoying a drink at weekends and still get a take away once a week, point being that I feel if you have a good balance you can achieve your goals.
And I feel 100% better in myself
Good luck
Firstly I sorted my injury out and was 94kg at that point, I started cycling and running to work every day, some light weights and squeeze in 20 press ups aboy 3 times a day randomly,albeit ony 5.5km each way, also started the 2 day fasting diet and cutting down massively on snacks.
A year down the line I'm now 77kg, that 17kg loss and im really fit for my age, I'm still enjoying a drink at weekends and still get a take away once a week, point being that I feel if you have a good balance you can achieve your goals.
And I feel 100% better in myself
Good luck
Hoofy said:
Yep. Don't need to go hardcore. I still drink cider and whisky, eat McCoy's and occasionally eat out but I routinely lift weights and participate in a broad mix of sports. Enjoying life!
As a general rule I'd completely agree with you. However for the reasons I've gone into - that wouldn't work for me.
The programme about the healthiest nations on a few weeks ago had it right. The closer the food is to how it originally came to be in existence, is best. That's why Iceland ranked best. Sporticus from Lazy Town is in his 50s, but has a bod that 20 year olds would love to have.
Edited by Halb on Saturday 27th September 15:23
Halb said:
The programme about the healthiest nations on a few weeks ago had it right. The close the food is to how it originally came to be in existence, is best. That's why Iceland ranked best. Sporticus from Lazy Town is in his 50s, but has a bod that 20 year olds would love to have.
i read that quickly and was about to rant about how can frozen s
t food from iceland be best!agree hence why im doing a whole foods regime
petemurphy said:
Halb said:
The programme about the healthiest nations on a few weeks ago had it right. The closer the food is to how it originally came to be in existence, is best. That's why Iceland ranked best. Sporticus from Lazy Town is in his 50s, but has a bod that 20 year olds would love to have.
i read that quickly and was about to rant about how can frozen st food from iceland be best!agree hence why im doing a whole foods regime
It was a good show, may be on 4player?
Anyone who is in a similar situation for me should go to the Doctors. I've just been signed off for two weeks by the Doctor.
Edit - should probably add some symptoms that I didn't think are important came up so I've had to give blood and am waiting to be booked in for a camera to be shoved down my throat and into my stomach. So I'm not saying go to the Doctor to get two weeks paid off work. I also was asked to let her shove her finger up my bum - that was a step too far for me, and I would not allow that. But the other stuff I'm doing.
That said - in a weird way I will feel better for all of that. Once I know if there is anything wrong with me I can really move forward.
I've also not drank a drop of either alcohol or caffeine since starting this tread. Herbal Tea has been my tipple of choice. I've been careful to try and not eat anything unhealthy or processed - although I will admit that I might have had a bit too much fat (had meatballs without the pasta). Overall I feel I am doing okay. I've not lost much weight (3 pounds) so I am clearly not doing it right - but my jeans are slightly more comfortable so it's done something.
Edit - should probably add some symptoms that I didn't think are important came up so I've had to give blood and am waiting to be booked in for a camera to be shoved down my throat and into my stomach. So I'm not saying go to the Doctor to get two weeks paid off work. I also was asked to let her shove her finger up my bum - that was a step too far for me, and I would not allow that. But the other stuff I'm doing.
That said - in a weird way I will feel better for all of that. Once I know if there is anything wrong with me I can really move forward.
I've also not drank a drop of either alcohol or caffeine since starting this tread. Herbal Tea has been my tipple of choice. I've been careful to try and not eat anything unhealthy or processed - although I will admit that I might have had a bit too much fat (had meatballs without the pasta). Overall I feel I am doing okay. I've not lost much weight (3 pounds) so I am clearly not doing it right - but my jeans are slightly more comfortable so it's done something.
Edited by photosnob on Thursday 2nd October 10:43
photosnob said:
Anyone who is in a similar situation for me should go to the Doctors. I've just been signed off for two weeks by the Doctor.
Sorry but based on what you've said I strongly disagree.Just because your doctor was willing to sign it doesn't mean you were morally justified. Any doctor's concern is to their patient, not society, and usually not morality.
We can't all burden our employers and colleagues other because of some glorified health kick, most of us what not even consider it.
Prof Prolapse said:
Sorry but based on what you've said I strongly disagree.
Just because your doctor was willing to sign it doesn't mean you were morally justified. Any doctor's concern is to their patient, not society, and usually not morality.
We can't all burden our employers and colleagues other because of some glorified health kick, most of us what not even consider it.
Do doctors do all those tests because of a health kick? Endoscopy is standard for people who want to lose a few pounds.Just because your doctor was willing to sign it doesn't mean you were morally justified. Any doctor's concern is to their patient, not society, and usually not morality.
We can't all burden our employers and colleagues other because of some glorified health kick, most of us what not even consider it.
photosnob said:
Do doctors do all those tests because of a health kick? Endoscopy is standard for people who want to lose a few pounds.
Well if nothing else they are liable for being sued if they don't attempt to diagnose their patients, so again, based on what you've said I won't alter my position.You seem a nice bloke, but I'm not going to sympathise with you getting signed off so you can do what you can get healthy. Most people do this on their own time. Why shouldn't you?
photosnob said:
I've also not drank a drop of either alcohol or caffeine since starting this tread. Herbal Tea has been my tipple of choice. I've been careful to try and not eat anything unhealthy or processed - although I will admit that I might have had a bit too much fat (had meatballs without the pasta). Overall I feel I am doing okay. I've not lost much weight (3 pounds) so I am clearly not doing it right - but my jeans are slightly more comfortable so it's done something.
Three pounds in weight fat loss in one week is extreme.But what is it? Fat? Muscle? Water?
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