Nanny state

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SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Dog Star said:
I was in Gibraltar and the OH wanted to stock up on Syndol,
O/T - Was this recently? We can't seem to get Syndol anywhere in the UK these days, and it's the only thing that will even touch my O/H's migraines. Got a workmate off over to Gib next month, so might see if he fancies doing a spot of drug running for me if it's still readily available there smile

jesta1865

3,448 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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V8Ford said:
Big Rumbly said:
I'm a 60 year old Professional working within the trust, since when did it become necessary to have to explain my needs to counter staff.
Maybe the dreadful pauper on the counter wasn't aware of your awesome credentials?
i think it came over the wrong way, i think he intended to give the impression that he is a sensible and sane member of society and not some poor soul who thinks pills and booze is the way out of his lot in life.

not exactly the same thing, but years ago i was going to the far east and was told to take some malaria tablets. one of the people i was going out to see was a doctor, she told me what to ask for as apparently the mozzies get resistant to one pill and to lower it the locals take another.

could i get it from a pharmacy over here, could i buggery, they all quoted from a book, which pill for that region, despite the book being over 2 years old and written / complied by a drugs company that 99% of the time pushed their own brand tablet. i finally went into a chemists where the very pleasant and knowledgeable Indian chemist gave me what I was recommended.

The reason I point out he was indian was that because all the white uk blokes refused to budge on what the book said, he immediately asked what the local gp's were using, he knew to defer to local knowledge was a sensible thing.

budgie smuggler

5,392 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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andy118run said:
I've been caught out a couple of times going through supermarket self checkouts with a single pack of ibuprofen or paracetamol. Quite why these machines insist on going into meltdown, flashing red lights and screaming 'authorisation required' for a single pack of pain killers I do not know.
If it's any consolation, they do the same for hemorrhoid cream. Complete pain in the arse.

Big Rumbly

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973 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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jesta1865 said:
V8Ford said:
Big Rumbly said:
I'm a 60 year old Professional working within the trust, since when did it become necessary to have to explain my needs to counter staff.
Maybe the dreadful pauper on the counter wasn't aware of your awesome credentials?
i think it came over the wrong way, i think he intended to give the impression that he is a sensible and sane member of society and not some poor soul who thinks pills and booze is the way out of his lot in life.
Thank you Jesta 1865 for backing me up, sometimes it seems like it's impossible to post on here without someone trying to pick holes in it.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Similarly I despair. But it's more the condescension I despise, I find it worse in places like Boots where pharmacy technicians will talk down to me. I do childishly correct them whenever I can.

The thing is though, I had a look at some research by the poisons bureau, and the fact is this limit on paracetamol would seem to genuinely seem beneficial in reducing the number of idiots killing themselves either accidentally or on purpose.

Whether or not you think that's worth the inconvenience of going to two shops rather than one, I guess is the only question.



Big Rumbly

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973 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Prof Prolapse said:
Similarly I despair. But it's more the condescension I despise, I find it worse in places like Boots where pharmacy technicians will talk down to me. I do childishly correct them whenever I can.

The thing is though, I had a look at some research by the poisons bureau, and the fact is this limit on paracetamol would seem to genuinely seem beneficial in reducing the number of idiots killing themselves either accidentally or on purpose.

Whether or not you think that's worth the inconvenience of going to two shops rather than one, I guess is the only question.
I agree Prof, probably worth the inconvenience to go elsewhere, but to be told it's to save an A & E issue is surely condescending. If it's about paracetomol limits, then tell me, don't insult me. Some people seem to hide behind the rules, and they don't seem to know the rules.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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In healthcare environments, I find the less people know, the more strongly they seem to know it.


MitchT

15,877 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Prof Prolapse said:
In healthcare environments, I find the less people know, the more strongly they seem to know it.
I think that's the workplace equivalent of "if you can't speak [insert language of country you're visiting] just shout in English".

jesta1865

3,448 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Big Rumbly said:
Thank you Jesta 1865 for backing me up, sometimes it seems like it's impossible to post on here without someone trying to pick holes in it.
you're welcome fella, too many people try to score cheap points on here these days.

also having a wife who has a degree in english (don't play her at scrabble you will just lose) i realise how easy it is to mis-interpret the written word. i even get it wrong speaking to her, mind that might just be because she thinks i'm getting uppity smile

p.s. yes to others i also see the irony of a wife who is so good at language and my poor use of it, especially capitalisation smile

V8Ford

2,675 posts

167 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Gents - you're right, my reply was a touch inflammatory. I misread the thrust of the OPs statement. Apologies.
If I could give a sensible reply - I'm guessing said staff deal with all sections of the public, and there will be individuals they serve who can't be trusted with their own safety. It may be easier for the staff to deal with everyone to the lowest common denominator, although perhaps not making it so apparent to the person they are serving might be a good idea.
Also, is there any chance there was a misunderstood sarcasm in what the person serving said?

Edited by V8Ford on Thursday 2nd October 18:02

toohuge

3,434 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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It's a farce.

I have a cream for my face that includes two active ingredients.... the same two can be found in athletes foot cream and anti itch cream, both over the counter. However, the particular cream that I use contains both of these ingredients in one cream - in the same amounts. But the cream is available as prescription only! Madness.

Mobile Chicane

20,842 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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There's a sign stuck to the counter top in Sainos pharmacy in Bracknell, warning staff not to sell anyone more than one pack of Sudafed tablets lest they try to make crystal meth with it.

Given that crystal meth requires red phosphorus to manufacture - and where the F do you buy that - getting hold of a large number of pseudoephedrine tablets has to be the least of your problems. redface

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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toohuge said:
It's a farce.

I have a cream for my face that includes two active ingredients.... the same two can be found in athletes foot cream and anti itch cream, both over the counter. However, the particular cream that I use contains both of these ingredients in one cream - in the same amounts. But the cream is available as prescription only! Madness.
The product licences (and testing for) the two seperate products which are GSL or P list also no doubt state not to be applied to the face or on/ near mucous membranes.

I note with intert thecomment about the less people know themore firmyl they know it. This indicates a lack of understanding o nthe posters behalf aobut how assistant grades have it drummed into them that they must work to their job desciption and refuse or refer things outside the boundaries - as it is the registered practitioner that holds the accountability.

if you go into a retail Pharmacy you will notice that there is a requirement to display the Name and PIN and the Registered Pharmacist who is the accountable practitioner *at that time*