Whey protein for children
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Tiggsy said:
I think there is a big difference between moving your own body around which it is very good at doing efficiently
Doesn't that depend on a number of physiological factors?Tiggsy said:
and performing traditional weight training exercises designed specifically to stress the body in a way it is not used to or designed for
Are you sure about that statement? Muscles are designed for eccentric and concentric movement and bones are there for protection and movement. How are weight training exercise stressing the body "in a way it's not designed for"?Tiggsy said:
(designed for in the sense that we are all able to push ourselves off the floor - a press up- but our body is not particularly efficient at doing it repeatedly or with increased weight added....ala bench press)
Press ups or high reps bench press they're exactly the same.Fact is everytime we move we're shifting our bodyweight and it's clearly a form of resistance. When we don't we lose muscle to atrophy and if we move the right way without weights we can build muscle. Like a sprinter or a cyclist. No one's suggested the boy gets in some heavy squats, lots of research now suggests light weights could be beneficial though, as would bodyweight exercises.
_Deano said:
Thanks all.
I've been looking into this a bit more and i've found that any sort of child friendly drink, which could help with increasing weight, will normally contain other unwanted ingredients. This could be from E numbers, to something that NASA would be interested in.
Also from what i have also read above, it just seems that he may have not yet hit a growth sput, whilst the other boys have.
I've just come back with fresh meat from the butchers, so i will load up his plate later on and just increase his food portion size for now.
Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated
I'm glad you've put this idea down. Protein shakes +/- weight training in a 7-yr old is going to do far more harm than good. Especially the training - bone growth/growth plates are still fusing at that age and its important not to put too much pressure on his limbs. If you have genuine concerns regarding his growth/development feel free to PM me but just feed him his fresh veg and good quality meat and wait for him to have finished growing before trying to bulk up. I don't see any 7-14yr olds at work who are anything other than lean or skinny in terms of their appearance. The alternaltive is T2DM/obese kids. I know which i'd recommend.I've been looking into this a bit more and i've found that any sort of child friendly drink, which could help with increasing weight, will normally contain other unwanted ingredients. This could be from E numbers, to something that NASA would be interested in.
Also from what i have also read above, it just seems that he may have not yet hit a growth sput, whilst the other boys have.
I've just come back with fresh meat from the butchers, so i will load up his plate later on and just increase his food portion size for now.
Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated
goldblum said:
Press ups or high reps bench press they're exactly the same.
Fact is everytime we move we're shifting our bodyweight and it's clearly a form of resistance. When we don't we lose muscle to atrophy and if we move the right way without weights we can build muscle. Like a sprinter or a cyclist. No one's suggested the boy gets in some heavy squats, lots of research now suggests light weights could be beneficial though, as would bodyweight exercises.
Yes - and my point was a press up or a bench press is the same...its not something the body is designed to do repeatedly in the way it is able to, for example, run. In someone older it will adapt to deal with those stresses......in a 7 year old, I wouldnt want that adaption to be taking place when the body is busy enough doing plenty of other things.Fact is everytime we move we're shifting our bodyweight and it's clearly a form of resistance. When we don't we lose muscle to atrophy and if we move the right way without weights we can build muscle. Like a sprinter or a cyclist. No one's suggested the boy gets in some heavy squats, lots of research now suggests light weights could be beneficial though, as would bodyweight exercises.
I'd be interested in any research that suggested light weights are good for a 7 year old.
And sprinting/running is very different to weight training. The human body is SUPPOSED to be able to run. Hence you get little kids at local park runs killing it against adults. Running is a natural thing for the human body.
Can we move away from you think is SUPPOSED (not sure why you're shouting) to be good practice and look not at personal opinion but facts please?
"...with children as young as 5-6 years of age making noticeable improvements in muscular fitness following exposure to basis resistance training"
Here's a website I didn't have much difficulty locating. It's written in layman's terms and references a peer reviewed article. The piece also references numerous bodies backing the research, such as WHO.
http://www.momsteam.com/health-safety/compelling-e...
http://www.momsteam.com/successful-parenting/3-thi...
I know the above will challenge your fundamental beliefs in a frightening way but give it a go.
I could reference any number of journal articles as this is quite a hot topic at the moment in the S+C community, but you'd get bored reading them and anyway the results have always been the same.
"...with children as young as 5-6 years of age making noticeable improvements in muscular fitness following exposure to basis resistance training"
Here's a website I didn't have much difficulty locating. It's written in layman's terms and references a peer reviewed article. The piece also references numerous bodies backing the research, such as WHO.
http://www.momsteam.com/health-safety/compelling-e...
http://www.momsteam.com/successful-parenting/3-thi...
I know the above will challenge your fundamental beliefs in a frightening way but give it a go.
I could reference any number of journal articles as this is quite a hot topic at the moment in the S+C community, but you'd get bored reading them and anyway the results have always been the same.
HughS47 said:
I'm glad you've put this idea down. Protein shakes +/- weight training in a 7-yr old is going to do far more harm than good. Especially the training - bone growth/growth plates are still fusing at that age and its important not to put too much pressure on his limbs. If you have genuine concerns regarding his growth/development feel free to PM me but just feed him his fresh veg and good quality meat and wait for him to have finished growing before trying to bulk up. I don't see any 7-14yr olds at work who are anything other than lean or skinny in terms of their appearance. The alternaltive is T2DM/obese kids. I know which i'd recommend.
Don't try to make your son into something he isn't.Normal foods veg,potatoes don't pile the meat on either. He is seven.My nephew was a small child slender build.He practised judo at that age gave him confidence.Six feet 4 and well build.And even if your son is small does it matter? Plenty of slender small people can look after themselfs.minerva said:
My four month old is only on the 75th centile for weight and I want him to look like Hercules when he is older, so I was thinking of mixing some weight gain 4000 into his next bottle feed.
The GP didn't recommend anything, so I assumed he was 'useless'.
Bottle feed = whey protein supplement powder.The GP didn't recommend anything, so I assumed he was 'useless'.
It's pretty much exactly the same thing.
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