Pistonhead snorers!

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TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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It has been brought to my attention by the mrs that my snoring is getting worse. Before I only used to snore when I laid on my back, but now I snore on my side as well. Apparently it got worse when I had two weeks off work and did basically the route sum of fk all, except eat and drink.

Quelle surprise, I am over weight, like any good PHer wink I've recently tried some anti snoring strips that go on the roof of your mouth, anti snoring spray and not drinking alcohol. I still snore.

I've slept on the sofa when the gf needed to be up early for work (I work shifts and get 4 days off) but I obviously still snored. This hasn't really been a problem for me as I never used to snore, so it is something new, and I know it isn't fair on her. Luckily for her, I also work away, so she gets 4-6 nights at a time of snore free sleep!

I believe my next step is to make an appointment with my GP to see what measures I can take to reduce my snoring. I also know that I need to lose weight, which in itself causes me an issue as losing weight makes another problem I have worse (c'est la vie).

Has anyone managed to successfully snore less after losing weight / seeing a GP? If losing weight didnt help, what did?

Thanks.

mikerons88

239 posts

113 months

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I've tried something very similar to that to no avail frown

mikerons88

239 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Oh dear. I cant help then other than what you already know.
If it helps I haven't slept more than 2-3hrs each night due to severe man flu. From temperatures, to headaches to cough.

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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mikerons88 said:
Oh dear. I cant help then other than what you already know.
If it helps I haven't slept more than 2-3hrs each night due to severe man flu. From temperatures, to headaches to cough.
I'm sure you'll feel better soon! Doesn't help though, sorry. I sleep fine, its the gf who doesn't.

I'll be calling the GP's on Monday!

Get well soon!

The_Doc

4,885 posts

220 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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TheAngryDog said:
It has been brought to my attention by the mrs that my snoring is getting worse. Before I only used to snore when I laid on my back, but now I snore on my side as well. Apparently it got worse when I had two weeks off work and did basically the route sum of fk all, except eat and drink.

Quelle surprise, I am over weight, like any good PHer wink I've recently tried some anti snoring strips that go on the roof of your mouth, anti snoring spray and not drinking alcohol. I still snore.

I've slept on the sofa when the gf needed to be up early for work (I work shifts and get 4 days off) but I obviously still snored. This hasn't really been a problem for me as I never used to snore, so it is something new, and I know it isn't fair on her. Luckily for her, I also work away, so she gets 4-6 nights at a time of snore free sleep!

I believe my next step is to make an appointment with my GP to see what measures I can take to reduce my snoring. I also know that I need to lose weight, which in itself causes me an issue as losing weight makes another problem I have worse (c'est la vie).

Has anyone managed to successfully snore less after losing weight / seeing a GP? If losing weight didnt help, what did?

Thanks.
What's your Body Mass Index (BMI)? It's Mass in Kg / Height in M squared

If it's over 30, in fact over 25 to be picky, you need to lose weight. You say losing weight makes something else worse.... really?

This will reduce your risks of:
high blood pressure
heart disease
stroke
type 2 diabetes
some types of cancer
infertility
osteoarthritis
back pain
depression

and............. snoring.

Your GP should tell you this and not accept any alternatives.

Are you surprised?

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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I'd say it's over 30.

Am I surprised about what? Being overweight causing other issues? No, though that last sentence did seem a little condescending and I'm not sure it was warranted. I know being overweight is bad.

And yes, losing weight will mean I'll need a 4th operation on my eustachian tubes as losing weight means I lose mass around them, and then means the hyperacussis and patulous eustachian tube disorder gets worse. The operations aren't always 100% successful either.

I am aware though that I need to lose weight and it is something that I will be speaking to my gp about as part of my snoring visit.

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

222 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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He's's right though, you know. wink

If it doesn't get any better, this is the nuclear option:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=laser+assisted+u...

Worked for me. smile

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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N Dentressangle said:
He's's right though, you know. wink

If it doesn't get any better, this is the nuclear option:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=laser+assisted+u...

Worked for me. smile
I never said he wasn't wink. Though I don't think anyone else on this forum suffers from the two disorders I do. If anyone did then they'd understand my concerns. You can't turn your hearing off and when you can hear doors closing 50 metres away as if you're stood next to it, feeling the vibration on your ear drum, it's not pleasant. I do everything I can to stop the symptoms.

I am hoping I don't need to take the nuclear option.

oilslick

903 posts

186 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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This worked for me before I dropped a bit of weight, you look like a bit of a tool wearing it but it was worth it for getting a decent nights sleep.

http://www.aveosleep.co.uk/index.php

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Cheers, I'll look into that one. I myself sleep absolutely fine through the night biggrin

Hythan

695 posts

147 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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I have just this morning booked a GP appointment. Can't get one until next Monday.

I have had enough of snoring now, and I am waking myself up a lot too. Mrs Hythan is disturbed by it, but above all of that, I believe it is now affecting my general health. In the last couple of years, my snoring, and sleep quality has gradually worsened, and I look like I've aged six to eight years in just a couple of years.

I feel very tired and groggy most of the time, I wake up frequently during the night, I feel disillusioned upon waking to the point where I have to sit up and try to 'take stock' of where I am. I even hear noises and think there is someone in the house when it's actually me snoring.

I am pretty sure that I have mild/moderate sleep apnea. I wake up gasping for breath and with my heart pumping away. So I am now looking to get this sorted once and for all.

So far, I have tried the following;

Breathe Right Nasal Strips (I do have nostrils that collapse when breathing in), they make an improvement, but only about 60% of the time. From researching online, it appears I may have a deviated septum also.

Pollanase Hayfever Spray, to combat dust allergies etc. Can't say I notice a difference using this anymore, and am aware I shouldn't use it long term. I've probably been using it for nearly a year. So I'll replace with Rhynil soon.

Megavent nasal dilator, wore it for the first time last night, not very comfortable, seemed to help at first but was waking up adjusting it many times throughout the night. Mrs Hythan has said to go back to the nasal strips as they seemed to work better.

I haven't tried a mouthguard yet, this is next on the list.


So I'm working my way through the options, but am keen to speak to a doctor now due to the effect on my general health. I feel this is becoming quite an issue now.



Edited by Hythan on Monday 17th November 12:15

Uncle John

4,284 posts

191 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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You have sleep apnoea. I've had it for years and is largely mechanical in that it's due to all manner of things, for me a large epiglottis.

Obviously being grossly overweight/booze doesn't help.

It came to a head with me when the wife became concerned that I would stop breathing many times per night. I was always really knackered, for example after eating lunch I would want to drop off.

Eventually I went to the GP and got referred to a sleep clinic where I was wired up and observed for the night. On seeing the consultant a two weeks later he said I was a very bad case and showed me that my blood oxygen levels were dangerously low during the night.

I now have a CPAP (Continous Positive Air Pressue) machine which at first is a bit of a faff but you soon get used to it and also looking like a jet fighter pilot with the full face mask!!!

I wouldn't be without out for the world, I now generallly get a good nights sleep.

Only wish I had done it years before.




mikerons88

239 posts

113 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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My gran has one of those. When she goes to bed she says "I'm off to the moon".... At least she sleeps now!

PBDirector

1,049 posts

130 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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sorry to add fuel to the fire, but - lose weight.

As soon as I put on a few kilos, I snore like a steam train, and I get sleep apnea. Sleep apnea's not fun at all. Constantly waking yourself up feeling like you're going to suffocate, as you drift off to sleep, with it getting worse as you get tireder.

When I lose a few kilos, it stops completely.

So, if you are overweight, get it did!

cheers

karona

1,918 posts

186 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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PBDirector said:
sorry to add fuel to the fire, but - lose weight.

When I lose a few kilos, it stops completely.

So, if you are overweight, get it did!

cheers
This X 1000

My other half, hugely overweight, who did walrus impersonations every night, was diagnosed with congestive heart failure a couple of weeks ago. She's not touched alcohol since, and has lost 7 kilos.
She's not snored for a week.

Lose the weight before you wish you had.

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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I've already said that I will lose weight, its just the other side effect of losing weight I am not looking forward to.

New diet here I come!

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Quick follow up for this thread. I got weighed on Saturday and I was not happy with the results.
The diet started yesterday! Also made an appointment with my GP.
No more chocolate or crisps. More fruit, more exercise, less fatty foods and drink. I have a target weight that I hope to hit, which will still put me as being over weight, especially as the BMI goes, but It'll be a damn sight better than what I am currently.

Hopefully between this and my GP, we can stop my snoring hehe

drmark

4,836 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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As above re sleep apnoea. Much more to it than disturbing your partner. Visit www.patient.co.uk for a sensible overview.
And try the Epworth Sleepiness score to assess likelihood of an issue. Google should turn up a calculator and how to interpret the result.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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The best "I still sleep in the same bedroom as my wife" thread ever. hehe