Excercise After Tattoo And Dbol
Discussion
Hey Guys!
So on Tuesday i started the lower half of my sleave on my right arm. I was thinking about going to the gym tonight but im worried about the tattoo being damaged? Iv read that its a good idea to wait a few days and to also keep it nice and moist whilst excercising but im just looking for some advice!
Also a question about Dbol and Winstrol. What is your opinion on these two Steriods? I have been taking them for about 5 days now. 2 DBOL in the Morning with breakfast only taking them with water. Then i am taking 2 Dbol and 3 Winstrol when i am having tea at about 7pm before i go to the gym, Having about 130g of Anabolic Protein afterwords. So whats everyones opinion on these? Waste of money? Serious gains? I have been taking them also on days i have not been at the gym so not sure if thats a waste.. Drinking about 4 litres of water a day and still my P*ss is green!
Cheers for the replies!
So on Tuesday i started the lower half of my sleave on my right arm. I was thinking about going to the gym tonight but im worried about the tattoo being damaged? Iv read that its a good idea to wait a few days and to also keep it nice and moist whilst excercising but im just looking for some advice!
Also a question about Dbol and Winstrol. What is your opinion on these two Steriods? I have been taking them for about 5 days now. 2 DBOL in the Morning with breakfast only taking them with water. Then i am taking 2 Dbol and 3 Winstrol when i am having tea at about 7pm before i go to the gym, Having about 130g of Anabolic Protein afterwords. So whats everyones opinion on these? Waste of money? Serious gains? I have been taking them also on days i have not been at the gym so not sure if thats a waste.. Drinking about 4 litres of water a day and still my P*ss is green!
Cheers for the replies!
I think you need to have a read up about them...
http://www.steroid.com/
Apologies if that comes across as a bit blunt / patronising but the way your post is worded i.e. 2 of these and 3 of those, sounds like you don't know as much as you should.
I don't have any direct experience of either of those but from what I've read about them on the above site and from speaking to people that have taken them, they're both effective in their own way (not sure how good the combo of the two is) but it's potentially a bit hard on the liver, assuming they're both orals.
You should be able to find effective / "recommended" dosages (in mg, not ones and twos) from the above site, based on bodyweight and suggestions re. PCT as well.
ETA. Generally with weaker / oral steroids you will take them every day, regardless of whether you're training or not for a certain period (again, have a look on the site for suggested course duration) and you might want to do a bit of research into the half-life of each drug / compound (I'm pretty sure Winnie is 9hrs) to optimise when you're taking them.
http://www.steroid.com/
Apologies if that comes across as a bit blunt / patronising but the way your post is worded i.e. 2 of these and 3 of those, sounds like you don't know as much as you should.
I don't have any direct experience of either of those but from what I've read about them on the above site and from speaking to people that have taken them, they're both effective in their own way (not sure how good the combo of the two is) but it's potentially a bit hard on the liver, assuming they're both orals.
You should be able to find effective / "recommended" dosages (in mg, not ones and twos) from the above site, based on bodyweight and suggestions re. PCT as well.
ETA. Generally with weaker / oral steroids you will take them every day, regardless of whether you're training or not for a certain period (again, have a look on the site for suggested course duration) and you might want to do a bit of research into the half-life of each drug / compound (I'm pretty sure Winnie is 9hrs) to optimise when you're taking them.
Edited by roboxm3 on Friday 5th December 14:14
Best thing to do with your tat is to put mustard on it and wrap in Clingfilm- it'll enhance the colour when you train.
I'd not expect and gains from D-bol, it's akin to vitamin C, but weaker; Winstrol, will make you win things though- it coms from horses eye balls apparently. You may grow hooves though.
I'd not expect and gains from D-bol, it's akin to vitamin C, but weaker; Winstrol, will make you win things though- it coms from horses eye balls apparently. You may grow hooves though.
didelydoo said:
Best thing to do with your tat is to put mustard on it and wrap in Clingfilm- it'll enhance the colour when you train.
I'd not expect and gains from D-bol, it's akin to vitamin C, but weaker; Winstrol, will make you win things though- it coms from horses eye balls apparently. You may grow hooves though.
I'd not expect and gains from D-bol, it's akin to vitamin C, but weaker; Winstrol, will make you win things though- it coms from horses eye balls apparently. You may grow hooves though.
VTECBOY said:
Hey Guys!
So on Tuesday i started the lower half of my sleave on my right arm. I was thinking about going to the gym tonight but im worried about the tattoo being damaged? Iv read that its a good idea to wait a few days and to also keep it nice and moist whilst excercising but im just looking for some advice!
Also a question about Dbol and Winstrol. What is your opinion on these two Steriods? I have been taking them for about 5 days now. 2 DBOL in the Morning with breakfast only taking them with water. Then i am taking 2 Dbol and 3 Winstrol when i am having tea at about 7pm before i go to the gym, Having about 130g of Anabolic Protein afterwords. So whats everyones opinion on these? Waste of money? Serious gains? I have been taking them also on days i have not been at the gym so not sure if thats a waste.. Drinking about 4 litres of water a day and still my P*ss is green!
Cheers for the replies!
Explains a lot, especially in relation to your recent run in with plod.So on Tuesday i started the lower half of my sleave on my right arm. I was thinking about going to the gym tonight but im worried about the tattoo being damaged? Iv read that its a good idea to wait a few days and to also keep it nice and moist whilst excercising but im just looking for some advice!
Also a question about Dbol and Winstrol. What is your opinion on these two Steriods? I have been taking them for about 5 days now. 2 DBOL in the Morning with breakfast only taking them with water. Then i am taking 2 Dbol and 3 Winstrol when i am having tea at about 7pm before i go to the gym, Having about 130g of Anabolic Protein afterwords. So whats everyones opinion on these? Waste of money? Serious gains? I have been taking them also on days i have not been at the gym so not sure if thats a waste.. Drinking about 4 litres of water a day and still my P*ss is green!
Cheers for the replies!
Oral steroids are crap. You lose most of the gains as soon as you come off them. They also shut your system down (as all steroids do), and damage your liver.
If you are going to run a cycle do it properly. 5/600 mg of Test E ran for 12-14 weeks. It won't kick in properly for a few weeks - and you can use your orals as a kickstart if you want. I used to like to run HCG throughout the cycles, as it keeps the little men downstairs operating. PCT is simple and I used to use Nolva and Chlomid. However you need to kick this in 2/3 weeks after your last jab. That should be it for your first cycle.
If you keep going you can throw in some other compounds like tren/deca. However these have their own host of sides. Tren will turn you into a cold nasty human, but there is nothing quite like it for building muscle and getting lean.
Do note - it's basically impossible to keep gains long term from gear. You either stay on or lose it. Long term health - well I got away with it. With good quality gear you should be fine as long as you don't abuse them. I used to use pharma gear - as I don't like the idea of putting junk oil into my muscle.
You don't need to do IM injections if you are scared of needles. However the jabs are pretty painless. If you are a girl/scared you can use a slin pin and jab into belly/fat. Personally I wouldn't bother with this as it's a pain in the arse.
Before the usual rubbish/abuse gets spouted - steroids are not illegal for personal use. If you have a problem with them then fine. However with proper knowledge and research they are pretty good. If you have anymore questions OP ask away.
If you are going to run a cycle do it properly. 5/600 mg of Test E ran for 12-14 weeks. It won't kick in properly for a few weeks - and you can use your orals as a kickstart if you want. I used to like to run HCG throughout the cycles, as it keeps the little men downstairs operating. PCT is simple and I used to use Nolva and Chlomid. However you need to kick this in 2/3 weeks after your last jab. That should be it for your first cycle.
If you keep going you can throw in some other compounds like tren/deca. However these have their own host of sides. Tren will turn you into a cold nasty human, but there is nothing quite like it for building muscle and getting lean.
Do note - it's basically impossible to keep gains long term from gear. You either stay on or lose it. Long term health - well I got away with it. With good quality gear you should be fine as long as you don't abuse them. I used to use pharma gear - as I don't like the idea of putting junk oil into my muscle.
You don't need to do IM injections if you are scared of needles. However the jabs are pretty painless. If you are a girl/scared you can use a slin pin and jab into belly/fat. Personally I wouldn't bother with this as it's a pain in the arse.
Before the usual rubbish/abuse gets spouted - steroids are not illegal for personal use. If you have a problem with them then fine. However with proper knowledge and research they are pretty good. If you have anymore questions OP ask away.
You don't sound ready for gear if you're asking such questions. Get your diet, rest and training spot on first. I'd also pack in booze, coke, fags, etc, if you indulge in them. No point in taking your training to such extremes if you're still filling your body with that st.
And you'd get a better response on a serious website, but I suspect you knew that....
And you'd get a better response on a serious website, but I suspect you knew that....
Hilts said:
No, he wouldn't. At least from anyone who could read.
Actually, you're right. I should've just told him to get reading. Similar questions have been asked many, many times. Most sites will have stickys that tell him all he needs.Probably a case of naievely/ignorantly thinking oral = no sides, 'cos his chum at the gym didn't get bh tits after 5 days, whereas a big fat needle in the arse = bald, acne, gyno, shrunken plums and a desire to kill everyone minutes after your first jab.
Steroids nooooooooo. They have so many side effects. Each time I have had cancer I had to take them and was given a card by my hospital explaining why I was on them. They made me eat so much and many people suffer from steroid rage/aggression. They are not good, I also had weird dreams whilst on them.
Mrs Muttleysnoop said:
Steroids nooooooooo. They have so many side effects. Each time I have had cancer I had to take them and was given a card by my hospital explaining why I was on them. They made me eat so much and many people suffer from steroid rage/aggression. They are not good, I also had weird dreams whilst on them.
No they didn't. Unless the NHS have been prescribing high doses of tren. Test doesn't give you rage - it just makes you feel a bit more confident. Mrs Muttleysnoop said:
Steroids nooooooooo. They have so many side effects. Each time I have had cancer I had to take them and was given a card by my hospital explaining why I was on them. They made me eat so much and many people suffer from steroid rage/aggression. They are not good, I also had weird dreams whilst on them.
The things you list are some of the reasons many take them.I don't use them but don't have an issue with those that do. They serve a purpose and if you've taken the time to research them fully before committing and are happy to do so, power to you IMO.
Also as a side point, some recent studies have shown that use can permanently alter the makeup of your muscles, essentially improving potential long after you've stopped using.
I do like the abuse on the website it keeps me laughing! Anyway... You don't have to worry about diet, drink etc as having lost 5 stone I think my diet is pretty good
Just now I'm having about 4 good meals a day, sitting at 87.7kg just now and slowly going up! Just wanted people's opinions on the oral stuff before I moved onto test. I have noticed my mood change, I am also hungry much more! I am using pharma tabs as well as im looking for good quality!.
Just now I'm having about 4 good meals a day, sitting at 87.7kg just now and slowly going up! Just wanted people's opinions on the oral stuff before I moved onto test. I have noticed my mood change, I am also hungry much more! I am using pharma tabs as well as im looking for good quality!.
VTECBOY said:
I do like the abuse on the website it keeps me laughing! Anyway... You don't have to worry about diet, drink etc as having lost 5 stone I think my diet is pretty good
Just now I'm having about 4 good meals a day, sitting at 87.7kg just now and slowly going up! Just wanted people's opinions on the oral stuff before I moved onto test. I have noticed my mood change, I am also hungry much more! I am using pharma tabs as well as im looking for good quality!.
you don't have a clue do you? Just now I'm having about 4 good meals a day, sitting at 87.7kg just now and slowly going up! Just wanted people's opinions on the oral stuff before I moved onto test. I have noticed my mood change, I am also hungry much more! I am using pharma tabs as well as im looking for good quality!.
"Orals before test" - I assume you mean before injectables?
I would not have done orals unless you absolutely cannot do needles, orals are really bad for your liver. Are you using milk thistle by chance?
Since your diet is so good, please post it up. This isn't a piss take, I think you genuinely don't have a clue what you're doing even if you think you do.
What's your PCT aswell? You have not mentioned this anywhere.
You have noticed your mood change after 5 days on a low dose of Dbol and Winny?
Any mood change will purely be from your own thoughts, nothing to do with the drugs.
Seriously though, it sounds like you dont know anywhere near enough about steroids to be dabbling with them. Maybe you do and its just come across wrong.
Any mood change will purely be from your own thoughts, nothing to do with the drugs.
Seriously though, it sounds like you dont know anywhere near enough about steroids to be dabbling with them. Maybe you do and its just come across wrong.
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