Your Training Goals for 2015

[didelydoo]

V8mate said:

Cool
That's really good.

I guess, if used that approach to achieve my 1RM for a military/OH press, you lot would all cry 'foul' though, right?

Jerks are awesome! I've done about 12.5kg more jerking (140kg) than push press (127.5kg), with is still way over my strict press (102.5kg)

[pilchardthecat]

didelydoo said:

V8mate said:

Right. I seem to be incapable of simultaneously sinking down (legs) whilst pushing up (arms) to get under the weight.

Body no comprende.

Think it of pushing your body under the bar as the bar moves up, rather than pushing the bar up.

Here's a vid of possibly the best in the world doing it in slow mo- watch for the 'jump' under to catch the bar at the top: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4VxiI2Ng0

That is utterly magnificent

[smiffy180]

didelydoo said:

Jerks are awesome! I've done about 12.5kg more jerking (140kg) than push press (127.5kg), with is still way over my strict press (102.5kg)

I didn't know you could jerk so much!

I can't jerk at all, my body is too lazy and refuses to let me

I've power jerked? 120kg easily just missing 130kg and turning it into a push press due to the lockout.

I feel I could probably hit a good 150-160kg if I learnt how to do it proper.

[V8mate]

didelydoo said:

... than push press (127.5kg), with is still way over my strict press (102.5kg)

Learn me up, bro... what's the difference between those two?

[smiffy180]

V8mate said:

Learn me up, bro... what's the difference between those two?

Push press is using leg drive, strict is without

[pilchardthecat]

smiffy180 said:

V8mate said:

Learn me up, bro... what's the difference between those two?

Push press is cheating, strict is not

Edited for accuracy

[V8mate]

This is a good vid for technique too!

http://youtu.be/PGdrq7FonYc

[LordGrover]

Snatch is different again. Oly lifts are quite different to what I do.

[smiffy180]

pilchardthecat said:

smiffy180 said:

V8mate said:

Learn me up, bro... what's the difference between those two?

Push press is cheating, strict is not

Edited for accuracy

Hah only cheating if the rules are it has to be strict

I only train strict anyway, every once in a while I'll do push press but I don't incorporate it into my program.

[pilchardthecat]

smiffy180 said:

pilchardthecat said:

smiffy180 said:

V8mate said:

Learn me up, bro... what's the difference between those two?

Push press is cheating, strict is not

Edited for accuracy

Hah only cheating if the rules are it has to be strict

I only train strict anyway, every once in a while I'll do push press but I don't incorporate it into my program.

My problem with push press is that it's very hard to track progress, because of how much "Push" you use varies from session to session

[didelydoo]

V8mate said:

This is a good vid for technique too!

http://youtu.be/PGdrq7FonYc

My tech is much sharper than that.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRoFPUw581o (it hurt!)

[didelydoo]

Push press rocks also- for strongman push is a must IMO, strict secondary, and jerk if you can do it!

[Art0ir]

didelydoo said:

Push press rocks also- for strongman push is a must IMO, strict secondary, and jerk if you can do it!

Tell Eddie Hall that

[smiffy180]

pilchardthecat said:

My problem with push press is that it's very hard to track progress, because of how much "Push" you use varies from session to session

I know what you mean.

Sorry didely but

[didelydoo]

Art0ir said:

Tell Eddie Hall that

I believe he's got patella problems, and if he could push, he probably would- Big Z does after all. (Plus the fact he's a huge freak of nature, I think it's safe to say 99.9% of people can lift more push pressing than pressing!)

[LordGrover]

It's a completely different lift/discipline though. Now I've taught myself not to use my legs I fear I'd never un-learn it if I was to revert back.

[natcot]

didelydoo said:

My tech is much sharper than that.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRoFPUw581o (it hurt!)

wow, that could have been so much nastier than it was! Reminds me to practice failing lifts so you know what to do when it all goes wrong.

[Halb]

I have become more interested in press/push press/jerk recently, and I have added some decent articles to the wiki in the past few weeks.

I had intended to test my 1RM press soon, but that is sort of out the door now.

I was gonna add heavy jerks to my routine, but I cannot jerk what I push press, I struggle with my workset Press weight. So the jerk was put to one side for the moment, I was hoping to return to it after my 10k in May.

edit.
I think I was just too scared to get under the weight.
Stronger legs/back may give more confidence.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 11th February 19:23

[Hoofy]

LordGrover said:

It's a completely different lift/discipline though. Now I've taught myself not to use my legs I fear I'd never un-learn it if I was to revert back.

I don't understand. You were using your legs and considering it a shoulder press? What the fk is this thread? Crossfit?

You shouldn't need to call it "strict" press just like you don't call it a "strict" pull up. You're either doing pull ups... or looking like a tt.

[LordGrover]

Precisely!
When I started out I just did what everyone else was doing to get the bar overhead. For the last few years I've been strict military press.