Rasberry Ketones weight loss pills

[272BHP]

Welshbeef said:

Welshbeef said:

So 15 days loss now up to 4.75lbs - no booze on the weekend at all only exercise being cleaning the house & car.

On average looking at about 2.2lbs per week so far

So 16 days now up to 5.25lbs - same applies as previously.

When I start to get back in shape and monitor my weight loss I always discount the first 2 weeks as the numbers are just silly. Getting the body back in balance and ridding the body of water weight means I pretty much always lose about 8-10 pounds in the first 14 days.

You are entering the period where the weight loss will slow. You need a box of tricks to pull out of the bag on a weekly basis to keep the fat coming off - this is where a progressive exercise routine can make a world of difference.

[BlackLabel]

What do you actually weigh Welshbeef?

Or if you don't want to say, how much weight do you need to lose before you're in the 'healthy' zone?



Yes I know BMI isn't the be all and end all however it's a good guide for most who are starting out on their weight loss journey - as long as you're not really powerfully built of course.

[Welshbeef]

Roughly 1.5 stone from my starting point to get to healthy and 5+ has already now gone.

[BlackLabel]

Welshbeef said:

Roughly 1.5 stone from my starting point to get to healthy and 5+ has already now gone.

Wow that's excellent, well done.

As you are probably discovering losing that last stone or so is always the toughest but just keep doing what you've been doing and you will lose it however it will just take you longer as the rate of weight loss slows down.

[Hoofy]

[ruggedscotty]

So as a bonafide lardy arse...... Im on a diet and its working - issue is you can not cheat on a diet - if you snack or gorge then you will not lose weight - you can hide behind big boned all you like if you aint losing weight then you aint trying....

raspbery keytones are cashing in on the diet fad - mentioning keytones like its the magical weight loss secret. Yes keytones are part of a diet regime when you are in ketosis you produce keytones in your body as a result of the diet process - you cant put keytones in your body and have the same effect.

Ive done the lighterlife diet and also found that you can get the same results from www.slimandsave.co.uk/ using their products you just need to be able to do it and stick to it. Its not an overnight process. You lose weight gradually and it takes effort to stay on the wagon and to keep at it.

Alcohol cut it out for the duration of the diet - if you decided to do the ketosis diet then alcohol is dangerous to you anyways.

Food out go the sauces those are calorie laden. its simple foods and as mach veg as you can take - its your filler and helps you feel full after a meal. But Id do the sachets for 30 - 60 days to begin with to wean yourself off of the food.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Maxf said:

Welshbeef said:

Sorry but did you actually read all the healthy meals we eat?
Care to share what you'd do differently?
What carbs? None for breakfast, hardly any for lunch and as I stated those meals are kind of rotated


FFS what do you have with home made curry if not rice? Ditto Chilli? What about stir fry? Seriously give some alternatives and no having sliced carrots to put the curry on isn't a realistic option.
Chilli could possibly go with salad but generally the leaves wilt instantly when in contact with hot sauces.

Sounds like we are probably quite similar - I eat healthy, homecooked, food and put weight on. After a lot of trial and error, it seemed that too many carbs at night were the cause, along with portion sizes being 50% too large.

We really dropped the carbs, so while I could eat 6 or 7 healthy boiled new potatoes, I now have 3 or 4. We upped the veg hugely, so this forms the bulk of our meal.

Brown rice is ok, but quinoa is better (on chilli) - again with Chilis, I was able to eat a MASSIVE portion (all homecooked, decent ingredients) and was putting weight on.

Drink a glass of ice cold water before eating. That helps you feel fuller quicker.

Cut down on the fruit - its terrible for your teeth and full of sugar. Its not processed sugar, but still gets turned into fat if not used pretty quickly.

Fruit juice (healthy!?) is the devil - you're better off drinking coke (almost).

Rice substitute you say? Try grating a cauliflower.... cook it in a bit of coconut butter, add some spring onion. done. We have it with any curry type dinner or chilli. I really like it, its nice and light. Half a cauliflower will do 2 people easy.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 9th March 17:11

[captainmatt]

There is some evidence those pills work in animals, but literally you're better off throwing your money off a building than buying them as they lack any sort of evidence base in humans. I think the only weight loss pill approved for market is Orlistat currently, and that has some pretty terrible side effects - nothing that will kill you (unless you're really unlucky) but fatty diarrhoea and oily flatulence isn't really high on my to-do list - basically prevents the carbs from being absorbed so it just passes straight through you.

With regards to weight loss, I seem to think most people can lose (quite a startling amount of) weight but then it does plateau and it does become harder. You just need to persevere with it. Exercise is vastly more important than diet so a couple of gym sessions a week even will work wonders for shifting a bit more.

Saying that, I gave up sugar for lent this year and so far I'm already looking far thinner (having not exactly been overweight to begin with) - no scales at uni house and not been to the gym for a while (do as I say not as I do) so no idea on actual figures. Don't underestimate diet.

[HarryFlatters]

captainmatt said:

With regards to weight loss, I seem to think most people can lose (quite a startling amount of) weight but then it does plateau and it does become harder. You just need to persevere with it. Exercise is vastly more important than diet so a couple of gym sessions a week even will work wonders for shifting a bit more.

WYeah, once you plateau it becomes important. I went from 15st 10lbs to 13st 5lbs with diet alone, I literally didn't go near a gym for a year. I stayed about the same weight for about 3 months so decided recently to start doing a bit more exercise. I've dropped to below 13st now, which is great, but it's slow going and pretty hard work

[Halb]

HonestIago said:

Those tablets will do sod all, sorry. If you want a drug that'll actually make a difference then try Ephedrine (if you can get hold of it) stacked with Caffeine. This combination gives a slight buzz, much reduced appetite, more energy for lifting/cardio and seemingly rapid fat loss (at least initially). Or so I am told!

Still got some chestzee to use.

[Foliage]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Rice substitute you say? Try grating a cauliflower.... cook it in a bit of coconut butter, add some spring onion. done. We have it with any curry type dinner or chilli. I really like it, its nice and light. Half a cauliflower will do 2 people easy.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 9th March 17:11

Bulgar wheat is my go too rice substitute (it prepares similar to couscous), or salad, curry with a nice crisp leaf salad is lovely or in fact with chilli. Cauliflower mash is nice too.

[Foliage]

HarryFlatters said:

captainmatt said:

With regards to weight loss, I seem to think most people can lose (quite a startling amount of) weight but then it does plateau and it does become harder. You just need to persevere with it. Exercise is vastly more important than diet so a couple of gym sessions a week even will work wonders for shifting a bit more.

WYeah, once you plateau it becomes important. I went from 15st 10lbs to 13st 5lbs with diet alone, I literally didn't go near a gym for a year. I stayed about the same weight for about 3 months so decided recently to start doing a bit more exercise. I've dropped to below 13st now, which is great, but it's slow going and pretty hard work

I disagree harry, exercise is vastly over-rated for weight loss (mainly due to the fitness industry) I lost 2.5 stone with no exercise at all, its far easier to not consume the calories than burn them off, I never plateau apart from the initial 2nd/3rd week post water retention thing (big loss the first couple of weeks as my salt intake went down, then my weight settled for a week or so).

I found tracking my weight loss that your weight fluctuates quite a lot day to day, weight as a metric is useless, its best to just ignore your weight, don't measure it at all. keep track of your gut size, how you feel, the fit of your clothes etc.

I run and lift now and all that does is change my body shape, has no real effect on my weight, in fact ive put weight on coz im not eating right.

[captainmatt]

Foliage said:

HarryFlatters said:

captainmatt said:

With regards to weight loss, I seem to think most people can lose (quite a startling amount of) weight but then it does plateau and it does become harder. You just need to persevere with it. Exercise is vastly more important than diet so a couple of gym sessions a week even will work wonders for shifting a bit more.

WYeah, once you plateau it becomes important. I went from 15st 10lbs to 13st 5lbs with diet alone, I literally didn't go near a gym for a year. I stayed about the same weight for about 3 months so decided recently to start doing a bit more exercise. I've dropped to below 13st now, which is great, but it's slow going and pretty hard work

I disagree harry, exercise is vastly over-rated for weight loss (mainly due to the fitness industry) I lost 2.5 stone with no exercise at all, its far easier to not consume the calories than burn them off, I never plateau apart from the initial 2nd/3rd week post water retention thing (big loss the first couple of weeks as my salt intake went down, then my weight settled for a week or so).

I found tracking my weight loss that your weight fluctuates quite a lot day to day, weight as a metric is useless, its best to just ignore your weight, don't measure it at all. keep track of your gut size, how you feel, the fit of your clothes etc.

I run and lift now and all that does is change my body shape, has no real effect on my weight, in fact ive put weight on coz im not eating right.

Can't that just be explained by the fact muscle weighs more than fat? Weight is a blunt tool I agree but it's fairly easy to be strict with yourself and say "I have too much fat, hence me being overweight" rather than be deluded and presume that you are 5st overweight because you are hench, when you haven't done a days exercise in 20 years?

I do see what you mean with fit of clothes etc. Unfortunately for me everything just hangs off me when I lose a bit of weight.

[okgo]

It doesn't weigh more than fat though does it. It just takes up less space.

And guess what, when you lose weight you need to buy new clothes...

Hilarious reading the OP, its as if people think eating that amount and doing nothing is 'ok' because its home made

[Foliage]

captainmatt said:

Can't that just be explained by the fact muscle weighs more than fat?

Say what now? that's a myth.


http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.a...

[okgo]

Not a myth as much as just being slow.

Like saying a ton of feathers weigh more than a ton of lead...

[Foliage]

okgo said:

Not a myth as much as just being slow.

Like saying a ton of feathers weigh more than a ton of lead...

Exactly, its a myth as in its bks in the context that it was stated. Muscle weighing more than fat is (as you state) just one of them things that people say that they don't understand and never really quantify, 1cm3 of muscle does weigh more than 1cm3 of fat but fat and muscle are entirely different things and really tbh shouldn't be compared.

As I state often weight as a measure of health/size is not exactly the best way of measuring and the psychological effect of using the scales can be detrimental to attitude to food.

[Foliage]

captainmatt said:

I do see what you mean with fit of clothes etc. Unfortunately for me everything just hangs off me when I lose a bit of weight.

Treat yourself to some new clothes.

[HarryFlatters]

Foliage said:

I disagree harry, exercise is vastly over-rated for weight loss (mainly due to the fitness industry)

I physically can't eat any less without dying 1 bowl of porridge, two ryvitas with ham and home made hummus, and a chicken salad most days. No milk or sugar in my coffee, diet coke and water make up my fluids. I have a few bevvies at the weekend and eat a bit less strict, and I refuse to give that up.

Foliage said:

I lost 2.5 stone with no exercise at all

So did I

Foliage said:

it's far easier to not consume the calories than burn them off,

I agree... I'm sure that I just said that

Foliage said:

I never plateau apart from the initial 2nd/3rd week post water retention thing (big loss the first couple of weeks as my salt intake went down, then my weight settled for a week or so).

I did. Was the same weight from about October last year until last month, when I started exercising.

Foliage said:

I found tracking my weight loss that your weight fluctuates quite a lot day to day, weight as a metric is useless, its best to just ignore your weight, don't measure it at all. keep track of your gut size, how you feel, the fit of your clothes etc.

Don't weigh yourself every day then and if I didn't exercise, I wouldn't feel fit

Foliage said:

I run and lift now and all that does is change my body shape, has no real effect on my weight, in fact ive put weight on coz im not eating right.

Cool, good for you. I don't really do any cardio (golf isn't really cardio), but I lift a bit and do lots of golf related core strengthening and flexibility stuff. I've lost 4lbs since starting, with no change in diet. My experience is that it did help, but not significantly maybe a pound a week difference, maximum.

I don't really know why you're disagreeing with me though, I've agreed with pretty much everything that you've said

[Vocal Minority]

My experience is that diet has helped - but I was eating A LOT prior to Christmas. Cutting right back on the booze also.

But I find now - I am a bit bored of eating 'right' - sorry I just don't find salad and veg as appealing as some. So I find that any gains in weight loss now comes from the fact I do 35 miles commuting on the bike 3 times a week and a longer ride every other weekend. So we are talking 1300-1400 calories on the commute and 1500 - 2000 on the alternate weekends.

This now seems to be where I make the most of my gains as calorie intake is up from the misery of 1500 a day. Gains are slower though...worth noting, but it does work (for me).