Medical reasons for not losing weight
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toohangry said:
Burwood said:
Alcohol, even small amounts kill weight loss. It is far more than the calories.
Could you expand on that? toohangry said:
Could you expand on that?
Alcohol is empty calories, ie it has little to no nutritional value, it is also the 1st thing your body will burn for fuel, which means while it's burning this it's turning the rest of your food into fat, or if your trying to loose weight, it stops burning fat and uses the alcohol instead.If your serious about loosing weight give up the drink, you loose it faster and feel better.
I don't drink at all, or very rarely (except for half a bottle of Johnny Walker whiskey on Xmas day..), but I believe that anything, including alcohol, can be consumed with moderation.
I cannot see how the odd tipple can undermine a long term diet.
Usually, when people get fat, it’s because they’re consuming in excess of what their body actually needs…
I cannot see how the odd tipple can undermine a long term diet.
Usually, when people get fat, it’s because they’re consuming in excess of what their body actually needs…
Burwood said:
toohangry said:
Burwood said:
Alcohol, even small amounts kill weight loss. It is far more than the calories.
Could you expand on that? chris watton said:
I don't drink at all, or very rarely (except for half a bottle of Johnny Walker whiskey on Xmas day..), but I believe that anything, including alcohol, can be consumed with moderation.
I cannot see how the odd tipple can undermine a long term diet.
Usually, when people get fat, it’s because they’re consuming in excess of what their body actually needs…
I agree Chris, the op talks of a bottle of wine. I'm merely pointing out 500 cals of booze is not just 500 cals. Drinking makes me over eat and lose will powerI cannot see how the odd tipple can undermine a long term diet.
Usually, when people get fat, it’s because they’re consuming in excess of what their body actually needs…
The number of people who actually have a screwed up metabolism is so tiny it can be discounted. I have a friend who is 500lb, he is huge. He apparently eats normally. During a surprise visit I rifled through his bin. Biscuits, crisp packets, ice cream. I saw him eat 6 slices of toast with butter at breakfast. Delluded
toohangry said:
Burwood said:
I'm merely pointing out 500 cals of booze is not just 500 cals. Drinking makes me over eat and lose will power
Hang on, that's a totally different thing! I totally agree with it though by the way. AJB88 said:
I've been using a combination of Myfitnesspal & Fitbit (Flex and now a Charge HR).
Was 16st13 and now 14st9, 5ft 8 so BMI is still "obese".
Swimming has been my main thing, started swimming every other day 1hour/1.5hour average.. Doing a 5K Swimathon on Sunday for Marie Curie.
Hoping to get down to around 12.5 stone eventually.
Nice work Was 16st13 and now 14st9, 5ft 8 so BMI is still "obese".
Swimming has been my main thing, started swimming every other day 1hour/1.5hour average.. Doing a 5K Swimathon on Sunday for Marie Curie.
Hoping to get down to around 12.5 stone eventually.
keep it up.Burwood said:
I agree Chris, the op talks of a bottle of wine. I'm merely pointing out 500 cals of booze is not just 500 cals. Drinking makes me over eat and lose will power
The number of people who actually have a screwed up metabolism is so tiny it can be discounted. I have a friend who is 500lb, he is huge. He apparently eats normally. During a surprise visit I rifled through his bin. Biscuits, crisp packets, ice cream. I saw him eat 6 slices of toast with butter at breakfast. Delluded
None of those foods will in themselves make him get fat - it's the amount of it... The number of people who actually have a screwed up metabolism is so tiny it can be discounted. I have a friend who is 500lb, he is huge. He apparently eats normally. During a surprise visit I rifled through his bin. Biscuits, crisp packets, ice cream. I saw him eat 6 slices of toast with butter at breakfast. Delluded
I know a few bodybuilders who will eat huge amounts of carbs post workout. And they have sub 10% bf figures at 18 stone plus.
sure, you could eat 2000 cals of cake a day and not get fat. My point is at 500lbs he is clearly eating too much. Contrary to popular belief his metabolism is a raging furnace-he needs 6000 cals a day to maintain that state.
Not getting into a debate about it but any man that is 18 stone and sub 10% bf is taking drugs.
Not getting into a debate about it but any man that is 18 stone and sub 10% bf is taking drugs.
I hope that Lemmonie posts again.
If she has gone back to the Doctors it'd be interesting to know the results. I think that some of the harsher responses may have scared her off, but there's a lot of good advice too.
Personally, I can relate to the frustration when dealing with people who blame anything but themselves for their weight gain. The disappointing reality is that the body is not designed to consume a lot of the more modern foods in the quantities that we consume them. I have to work quite hard to keep my weight in a band that I'm happy with. It often means making 'boring' choices and trying to make them interesting.
I have calorie counted in the past, but I don't anymore. It has left me with a pretty good idea of how many calories are in the things that I'm eating and what to avoid. I tend to aim for a multi-coloured plate full of food including lean meats. I try to avoid beige foods and especially a plate full of beige food, but I allow myself one cheat day per week which I don't always use - and I can really cheat!
I made the choice quite a while ago that I prefer the feeling of being in shape to the (great) taste of higher calorie foods: "nothing tastes as good as thin feels." The reality is that there's a 99.9%* certainty that you are to responsible for your own weight gain and a 0.1% chance that it's medical.
If she has gone back to the Doctors it'd be interesting to know the results. I think that some of the harsher responses may have scared her off, but there's a lot of good advice too.
Personally, I can relate to the frustration when dealing with people who blame anything but themselves for their weight gain. The disappointing reality is that the body is not designed to consume a lot of the more modern foods in the quantities that we consume them. I have to work quite hard to keep my weight in a band that I'm happy with. It often means making 'boring' choices and trying to make them interesting.
I have calorie counted in the past, but I don't anymore. It has left me with a pretty good idea of how many calories are in the things that I'm eating and what to avoid. I tend to aim for a multi-coloured plate full of food including lean meats. I try to avoid beige foods and especially a plate full of beige food, but I allow myself one cheat day per week which I don't always use - and I can really cheat!
I made the choice quite a while ago that I prefer the feeling of being in shape to the (great) taste of higher calorie foods: "nothing tastes as good as thin feels." The reality is that there's a 99.9%* certainty that you are to responsible for your own weight gain and a 0.1% chance that it's medical.
- other percentages are available. No idea if that one's correct.
pushthebutton said:
I hope that Lemmonie posts again.
If she has gone back to the Doctors it'd be interesting to know the results. I think that some of the harsher responses may have scared her off, but there's a lot of good advice too.
Personally, I can relate to the frustration when dealing with people who blame anything but themselves for their weight gain. The disappointing reality is that the body is not designed to consume a lot of the more modern foods in the quantities that we consume them. I have to work quite hard to keep my weight in a band that I'm happy with. It often means making 'boring' choices and trying to make them interesting.
I have calorie counted in the past, but I don't anymore. It has left me with a pretty good idea of how many calories are in the things that I'm eating and what to avoid. I tend to aim for a multi-coloured plate full of food including lean meats. I try to avoid beige foods and especially a plate full of beige food, but I allow myself one cheat day per week which I don't always use - and I can really cheat!
I made the choice quite a while ago that I prefer the feeling of being in shape to the (great) taste of higher calorie foods: "nothing tastes as good as thin feels." The reality is that there's a 99.9%* certainty that you are to responsible for your own weight gain and a 0.1% chance that it's medical.
pretty much spot on. It's often no fun being on any sort of diet that differs from your norm but you do get used to it and the gains (losses) are rewarding. I broadly know what im eating cals wise and every couple of weeks i can consume 3,500 to 4,000 in a day which is always booze and junk food. There is so much bro science out there so it is good to hear sensible tips. If she has gone back to the Doctors it'd be interesting to know the results. I think that some of the harsher responses may have scared her off, but there's a lot of good advice too.
Personally, I can relate to the frustration when dealing with people who blame anything but themselves for their weight gain. The disappointing reality is that the body is not designed to consume a lot of the more modern foods in the quantities that we consume them. I have to work quite hard to keep my weight in a band that I'm happy with. It often means making 'boring' choices and trying to make them interesting.
I have calorie counted in the past, but I don't anymore. It has left me with a pretty good idea of how many calories are in the things that I'm eating and what to avoid. I tend to aim for a multi-coloured plate full of food including lean meats. I try to avoid beige foods and especially a plate full of beige food, but I allow myself one cheat day per week which I don't always use - and I can really cheat!
I made the choice quite a while ago that I prefer the feeling of being in shape to the (great) taste of higher calorie foods: "nothing tastes as good as thin feels." The reality is that there's a 99.9%* certainty that you are to responsible for your own weight gain and a 0.1% chance that it's medical.
- other percentages are available. No idea if that one's correct.
olly22n said:
Watching The Island with Bear Grylls last night really hit home, the human body was not designed for the 21st century and its food habits.
if you mean high sodium and processed food, well no. Over on the filthy takeaway thread i seriously would never eat those kebabs. Nothing really wrong with a pizza now and then but some of that food is rank and will kill you in short orderpushthebutton said:
I made the choice quite a while ago that I prefer the feeling of being in shape to the (great) taste of higher calorie foods: "nothing tastes as good as thin feels."
I really be to differ on that one! I have a BMI of 24 so at the top of healthy weight, and I do like feeling fit and in shape. But I am afraid I have done the changing diets and I don't get the 'I feel fantastic, and I don't miss the crap'. I feel OK, but to be honest I ascribe that to 8 hours a week of relatively hard exercise.
I do miss crap food.
There. I said it.
Edited by Vocal Minority on Thursday 16th April 12:43
I would think 3,300 cals a day allows for a fair bit of 'crap' food and drink(my maintenance level BMR). 8 hours a week would allow you to do that and maintain a decent level of body composition. Each to their own. No one is saying you have to remove bad food altogether. BUt to reach a goal you must make short term sacrifices. Now im over 40 I must watch what i eat or i'll get fat and look like s
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t.I am not having a go at anyone - just lamenting really! I have figured out you can out train a crap diet, you just need to do 125 miles a week on the bike at a relatively high intensity.
I grant you that a couple of moderate gym sessions a week will not be sufficient to outrun a poor diet though!
I grant you that a couple of moderate gym sessions a week will not be sufficient to outrun a poor diet though!
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