Medical reasons for not losing weight
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Without the rudeness (really no need), in a week you're eating just about the right amount to stay at 12st imo.
Your calorie table earlier didn't include the drinks, squash is quite high in cals, and every single cal counts.
Losing weight completely sucks if you enjoy food and drink, good luck
Your calorie table earlier didn't include the drinks, squash is quite high in cals, and every single cal counts.
Losing weight completely sucks if you enjoy food and drink, good luck
Lemmonie said:
Wow.
So, from my diet of no processed food, no fried food, no fast food, no pastry, etc you have concluded my kids need to get into healthy eating?! f
k you. Thanks.
Appreciate other advise from those that don't appear such complete tts though.
To be fair...this was in news on Monday.So, from my diet of no processed food, no fried food, no fast food, no pastry, etc you have concluded my kids need to get into healthy eating?! f
k you. Thanks.Appreciate other advise from those that don't appear such complete t
ts though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32069699
Also its proven that overweight parents are worst for not spotting their kids are fat.
Edited by jdw100 on Tuesday 31st March 14:11
Sometimes people who have had success loosing weight can become very evangelical about it. OP don't loose heart. For healthy weight loss you should only be looking to loose 14lb in a year, so that's a little over 1lb a month. Stop weekly weigh ins and keep going as you are (as a GP I should insert something here about alcohol etc etc). Like some one else said aim for 2lb in 6 weeks. The exercise will be doing your heart the world of good. It doesn't sound to me like you have any reason to think you have a medical condition preventing weight loss. Good luck!
An observation here:
The human mind and body don't like losing fat. That is why it's more pleasurable putting it on than getting it off.
In pursuit of not losing fat the body plays a few tricks, and for every one of those tricks the mind knows a few more. A combination of these can lead middle-aged people (like the OP) to proclaim, "but I eat like a fly and weigh like an elephant".
Eleven said:
An observation here:
The human mind and body don't like losing fat. That is why it's more pleasurable putting it on than getting it off.
In pursuit of not losing fat the body plays a few tricks, and for every one of those tricks the mind knows a few more. A combination of these can lead middle-aged people (like the OP) to proclaim, "but I eat like a fly and weigh like an elephant".
That not what I observed, in my own experience of weight loss i observed addiction, its not the body thats the problem but the culture of the food we eat and the many chemicals it contains.The human mind and body don't like losing fat. That is why it's more pleasurable putting it on than getting it off.
In pursuit of not losing fat the body plays a few tricks, and for every one of those tricks the mind knows a few more. A combination of these can lead middle-aged people (like the OP) to proclaim, "but I eat like a fly and weigh like an elephant".
Hoofy said:
The addiction is beyond the physical.
I think its probably both or its interrelated some chemicals in foods are more comforting than in others which leads to a mental addiction.I personally have a big problem with chocolate/sweets I think its a chemical addiction as if I have a small amount of chocolate I then crave a large amount later on. Im not sure how my thinking is on that though, it could be all in my mind but I don't think it is, as I don't crave chocolate if I don't eat it.
This kind of thing will vary from person to person, I am very stubborn but do how my weak moments, the stubbornness helped me break the addiction chain, but I have fallen of the wagon multiple times, it does get easy as I understand the feelings I will feel.
Edited by Foliage on Wednesday 1st April 11:15
Foliage said:
Hoofy said:
The addiction is beyond the physical.
I think its probably both or its interrelated some chemicals in foods are more comforting than in others which leads to a mental addiction.I personally have a big problem with chocolate/sweets I think its a chemical addiction as if I have a small amount of chocolate I then crave a large amount later on. Im not sure how my thinking is on that though, it could be all in my mind but I don't think it is, as I don't crave chocolate if I don't eat it.
This kind of thing will vary from person to person, I am very stubborn but do how my weak moments, the stubbornness helped me break the addiction chain, but I have fallen of the wagon multiple times, it does get easy as I understand the feelings I will feel.
Edited by Foliage on Wednesday 1st April 11:15
It's not that you don't crave the chocolate if you don't eat it but that you probably do other things to satisfy the addiction. The problem is that we categorise addiction ie "I'm addicted to cake" or "I'm addicted to cigarettes". When you look at it from a viewpoint of having an addictive personality then things are turned on their heads. If you don't properly cure a client of their smoking addiction, they will jump to another addiction. Which is great for keeping the business rolling in.
Antonia said:
Sometimes people who have had success loosing weight can become very evangelical about it. OP don't loose heart. For healthy weight loss you should only be looking to loose 14lb in a year, so that's a little over 1lb a month. Stop weekly weigh ins and keep going as you are (as a GP I should insert something here about alcohol etc etc). Like some one else said aim for 2lb in 6 weeks. The exercise will be doing your heart the world of good. It doesn't sound to me like you have any reason to think you have a medical condition preventing weight loss. Good luck!
Thank you". Actually I spose I have got swept away with the whole calories in and out part of this topic.The reason I actually asked the original question was because I am under investigation for a couple of issues one of which was a thyroid condition. However bloods show that I'm "normal" im having others investigations for conditions which are included in someone's reply earlier.
I perhaps should have stopped there but it's been an interesting exercise anyway looking at detail at my diet which I guess I had left to a slimming world consultant and my trainer. Both of whom consider my diet good and conducive to weight loss even if slow.
My trainer would suggest though I'm not eating regularly enough, preferring me to eat smaller meals but more of them.
All interesting but will go back to gp/consultants and report my weight issue with them. It may or may not help.
Lemmonie, I'm glad you're seeing a medical expert - it will at least rule out any problems (see my reply in your other thread).
As for your PTer suggesting you need to eat more and often, it's a load of bks so please kick him/her in the shins for me. CICO works. If you don't believe me, eat everything and don't stop eating for a month. Then stop eating for a month.
But, yes, your diet is good, it's pretty healthy. But in the world of weight loss, it means fk all, I'm afraid.
As for your PTer suggesting you need to eat more and often, it's a load of b
ks so please kick him/her in the shins for me. CICO works. If you don't believe me, eat everything and don't stop eating for a month. Then stop eating for a month.But, yes, your diet is good, it's pretty healthy. But in the world of weight loss, it means f
k all, I'm afraid.Hoofy said:
Foliage said:
Hoofy said:
The addiction is beyond the physical.
I think its probably both or its interrelated some chemicals in foods are more comforting than in others which leads to a mental addiction.I personally have a big problem with chocolate/sweets I think its a chemical addiction as if I have a small amount of chocolate I then crave a large amount later on. Im not sure how my thinking is on that though, it could be all in my mind but I don't think it is, as I don't crave chocolate if I don't eat it.
This kind of thing will vary from person to person, I am very stubborn but do how my weak moments, the stubbornness helped me break the addiction chain, but I have fallen of the wagon multiple times, it does get easy as I understand the feelings I will feel.
Edited by Foliage on Wednesday 1st April 11:15
It's not that you don't crave the chocolate if you don't eat it but that you probably do other things to satisfy the addiction. The problem is that we categorise addiction ie "I'm addicted to cake" or "I'm addicted to cigarettes". When you look at it from a viewpoint of having an addictive personality then things are turned on their heads. If you don't properly cure a client of their smoking addiction, they will jump to another addiction. Which is great for keeping the business rolling in.
popeyewhite said:
You're both right, in a way. Hoofy's more accurate but there is a physical craving...it's not a chemical addiction just a restocking of serotonin levels after sugar abuse. An antecedent of serotonin is tryptophan, which is separated and isolated by insulin after a hefty sugar intake. A tryptophan 'spike' if you like. This spike tends to suppress normal serotonin levels, which a sugary intake will artificially restore.
I didn't say there wasn't a physical craving. I mean, you get cravings for stuff when you're low on different nutrients. The trick is to figure out what it is. But cravings for cigarettes and booze is less about physical cravings. If you haven't guessed by now, it's part of what I do for a living.Hoofy said:
I didn't say there wasn't a physical craving. I mean, you get cravings for stuff when you're low on different nutrients. The trick is to figure out what it is. But cravings for cigarettes and booze is less about physical cravings. If you haven't guessed by now, it's part of what I do for a living.
I know what you do for a living Hoofy (male escort, if memory serves). I used to use this forum years ago when you were shadowninja. I mean, you get cravings for stuff when you're low on different nutrients. The trick is to figure out what it is. But cravings for cigarettes and booze is less about physical cravings. If you haven't guessed by now, it's part of what I do for a living.popeyewhite said:
Hoofy said:
I didn't say there wasn't a physical craving. I mean, you get cravings for stuff when you're low on different nutrients. The trick is to figure out what it is. But cravings for cigarettes and booze is less about physical cravings. If you haven't guessed by now, it's part of what I do for a living.
I know what you do for a living Hoofy (male escort, if memory serves). I used to use this forum years ago when you were shadowninja. I mean, you get cravings for stuff when you're low on different nutrients. The trick is to figure out what it is. But cravings for cigarettes and booze is less about physical cravings. If you haven't guessed by now, it's part of what I do for a living.MYOB said:
simoid said:
In case it's not sunk in yet I think we all recommend OP:
USE AN APP TO RECORD YOUR FOOD INTAKE TO THE OUNCE! Or you'll never know if you 'should' be losing weight.
Not something I bothered with. It is possible to lose weight without anally recording everything. USE AN APP TO RECORD YOUR FOOD INTAKE TO THE OUNCE! Or you'll never know if you 'should' be losing weight.
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