Exercise - why do so few do it and not poking fun at fatties

Exercise - why do so few do it and not poking fun at fatties

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boyse7en

6,723 posts

165 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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grumbledoak said:
I would imagine our nation's issue with exercise starts at school. Sadistic PE teachers, smelly changing rooms, freezing showers after freezing runs, full contact 'sports' for children. Most kids cannot wait to get away from it and I don't blame them.
Not sure that is true anymore. My daughters go to a small village Primary school (about 80 pupils) and they do quite a variety of sport. So far they have done six-week sessions (ie a half-term) on Netball, tennis, golf, and surfing, with volleyball being the next one to come up after Easter. There are after-school clubs for netball, golf and running all organised by the teachers too.

On top of that, mine do a tennis tuition once a week with a local club, one goes to gymnastics and we go on regular-ish cycle rides (the five year old did a 15 mile ride a week or so ago).

Part of this is due to peer pressure (friends go to some of the clubs) and partly down to us parents cajoling, persuading and setting an example that sport/exercise can be fun and beneficial.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Just out of interest - how would people define 'fatties'?

Also when the are encouraging models to become more like 'real women' or 'normalised' are they suggesting they should be overweight, or just sort of size 10-12 rather than size 6. To me the latter wouldn't be destructive at all.

It just seems that all the definitions are a bit vague!

In terms of why some people don't do exercise, I think some people just don't enjoy it or find it boring. I love my cycling, but my OH finds exercising on her own very dull*, and doesn't like team sports because she isn't very competitive and doesn't like the environment. - For the sake of completeness, her weight, body fat, BMI (pick a metric, any metric) are plum in the middle of the 'healthy' range and a she is a size 8-10.

I think people who really enjoy their exercise just don't understand why some people don't enjoy it - and will never fully understand it. Just in the same way that the reverse is true, and people who don't like exercise so much will never really get why some people do.


'osses for cosses isn't it?

Edited by Vocal Minority on Wednesday 1st April 10:55

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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StevieBee said:
fatties
hehe

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Lots of great programmes about this stuff recently.


Truth About Calories was on this week, very good show, as was the Eat to Live Longer.

MitchT

15,867 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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It seems it's become fashionable to legitimise overeating and lack of exercise in the interest of political correctness ... To imply that having a physique that indicates a healthy diet and regular exercise constitutes "setting a bad example to vulnerable young people" ... To suggest that having a muffin top makes someone a "real woman". I despair.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Halb said:
Eat to Live Longer.
Ta. Watching it now.

Kinda thinking, I'd rather die a bit younger and enjoy a bacon butty or two than lemon juice on gluten-free cardboard.

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I don't think it would do any harm if models had physiques more like this;



than this;




Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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otolith said:
I don't think it would do any harm if models had physiques more like this;


than this;
Fortunately, fitspo is taking over thinspo. smile

Du1point8

21,608 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I enjoy food, I enjoy it a lot.

However I make damn sure that I do relevant exercise to counteract the gorging on food or alcohol so try and stay in shape.

I still need to lose a few pounds but Im in good shape and healthy.

I never understand how a fattie can actually enjoy sweating like a pig when the first sign of spring appears and temps go up, or being out of breath walking up stairs.

how is that normal and acceptable?

I also believe that if Im fit and healthy, I attract people of the opposite sex that are fit and healthy, Im shallow and would never want to go out with an 'oversize' women, let alone harpoon a whale (sorry if Im shallow).

I think a healthy partner gives our kids the best chance of getting our good genes, rather than those swamp donkeys/inbreds you see dragging their knuckles around the chav estates that breed with anything with a heart beat and produce something only a mother can love.

MitchT

15,867 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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My OH has the same physique as the 'skinny' model in the second pic. She eats loads - more than me sometimes ... but specifically a healthy, balanced diet and goes to the gym regularly. Also, she's naturally a light build. If she were in the public eye she'd no doubt be berated for setting a bad example, but she's actually very healthy.

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Yes, I also know someone who has that build and struggles to gain weight. The problem is not that some people are naturally like that, it is that most people aren't, and shouldn't try to be. It's not a desirable ideal for most people - whereas the build of the swimmers is.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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MitchT said:
My OH has the same physique as the 'skinny' model in the second pic. She eats loads - more than me sometimes ... but specifically a healthy, balanced diet and goes to the gym regularly. Also, she's naturally a light build. If she were in the public eye she'd no doubt be berated for setting a bad example, but she's actually very healthy.
If she stopped going to the gym, I am sure she would bloat up like anyone else.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Hoofy said:
Ta. Watching it now.

Kinda thinking, I'd rather die a bit younger and enjoy a bacon butty or two than lemon juice on gluten-free cardboard.
I'd like to be like the 118 year old.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Halb said:
Hoofy said:
Ta. Watching it now.

Kinda thinking, I'd rather die a bit younger and enjoy a bacon butty or two than lemon juice on gluten-free cardboard.
I'd like to be like the 118 year old.
I'm not sure - at that age, you can't do the things you want to do even if you have no ailments. Unless the things you want to do are bowls or walking.

Oh, the fasting guy doesn't look a day over 70. biggrin He reminds me of how my dad looked 6 months before cancer killed him TBH.

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I don't understand how people don't exercise. I'm sat here, I missed training last night because of an exam today and I was last in the pool on Sunday. I haven't been to the gym for 2/weeks either (time used for exam prep) and I am now at the end of my tether. I feel awful. Which is why, now the exam is done, I'm going to the gym.

durbster

10,264 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I think one problem is that the power of marketing has made the idea of diet and exercise seem incredibly complex. We're led to believe that getting fit or eating properly requires scientific studies, expert tutoring, specialist products or an infrastructure of some sort. People seem to believe that unless you buy x and y, you've got no chance.

The truth is, it's not complicated at all.

I think the biggest problem is simply that people don't walk enough any more.

As a result, people seem to have no grasp of distance and the idea of walking a couple of miles has become so alien that they don't even consider it. I find it curious that people willingly wait 15 minutes to get on a bus and do a 10 minute journey, without ever realising they could have walked the journey in that time.

Our four year old goes to a school less than a mile away so we walk him there every day. It takes 15 minutes to walk but our neighbours all take their kids in the car.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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^^ yes

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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LordGrover said:
^^ yes
+1 yes

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I don't understand how people don't exercise. I'm sat here, I missed training last night because of an exam today and I was last in the pool on Sunday. I haven't been to the gym for 2/weeks either (time used for exam prep) and I am now at the end of my tether. I feel awful. Which is why, now the exam is done, I'm going to the gym.
I feel awful if I do exercise. Walking is OK, but spending time in a gym was not only horrendously boring but made me feel rotten afterwards.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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hehe Maybe you're unfit? Once you get over the hump maybe you'd feel better about it.