Exercise - why do so few do it and not poking fun at fatties
Discussion
LordGrover said:
Sorry, didn't know that.
So we're back to the above; exercise doesn't need to be exercise, just more active. Gardening, housework, car cleaning, walking, cycling, etc.
Everything like the above a help but to achieve meaningful results, that ain't going to cut it.So we're back to the above; exercise doesn't need to be exercise, just more active. Gardening, housework, car cleaning, walking, cycling, etc.
If people want to be fit and look remotely like a Cristiano Ronaldo, some gentle running and ab crunches ain't going to get it done. People are deluded into thinking that's all they need to do.
When they don't achieve the results after a short period, they go off in a huff and order a box of 22" pizza.
amare32 said:
For all the hours people waste watching mindless rubbish on TV, they could sacrifice 4 hours a week to do more active stuff to remain healthy - it's not that hard really.
But people don't actually waste time watching mindless rubbish, they have the mindless rubbish on in the background while eating/ironing/reading/surfing PH etc etc. amare32 said:
Everything like the above a help but to achieve meaningful results, that ain't going to cut it.
If people want to be fit and look remotely like a Cristiano Ronaldo, some gentle running and ab crunches ain't going to get it done. People are deluded into thinking that's all they need to do.
When they don't achieve the results after a short period, they go off in a huff and order a box of 22" pizza.
I don't think most people do want that, especially not women If people want to be fit and look remotely like a Cristiano Ronaldo, some gentle running and ab crunches ain't going to get it done. People are deluded into thinking that's all they need to do.
When they don't achieve the results after a short period, they go off in a huff and order a box of 22" pizza.
The simple stuff being suggested is a help to people who do no exercise, don't want to do formal exercise but do want to be a little healthier. For those people, you need simple, easy ideas that doesn't require kit, memberships, etc, but just a small change in attitude and outlook.
Obviously if you want a lean, muscular body you need to eat well and train hard. That's not really a goal of the vast majority of the sedentary population though.
What amare is saying goes back a little to my earlier point about define 'fatties'.
Amare32 is moving onto his particular thing, which is remaining super fit, 6% body fat, Wolverine etc etc - which is great. It is what you want, and it is what you have achieved. It is very impressive.
However, I don't want to look like Christiano Ronaldo. I could if I wanted to - but due to me not doing the exercise and more importantly not sticking to the required diet I think it is fairly safe to assume 'I don't want it bad enough' as some would put it. If I did want it badly enough, I rather suppose I would eat loads of celery, no Pizzas and sweat my @rse off for 15 hours a week.
As it is I do around 100 miles on the bike a week - about 6 hours and I enjoy the odd chip. I am not a ripply doyenne of muscleyness - but I am not a chubster either.
I do see what amare is alluding to, in the way people seek instant results - however there seems to be a continuing trend on this thread anyone who isn't actually athletic or a woman who isn't a total bean pole are being quietly shuffled into the 'fatty' camp.
Amare32 is moving onto his particular thing, which is remaining super fit, 6% body fat, Wolverine etc etc - which is great. It is what you want, and it is what you have achieved. It is very impressive.
However, I don't want to look like Christiano Ronaldo. I could if I wanted to - but due to me not doing the exercise and more importantly not sticking to the required diet I think it is fairly safe to assume 'I don't want it bad enough' as some would put it. If I did want it badly enough, I rather suppose I would eat loads of celery, no Pizzas and sweat my @rse off for 15 hours a week.
As it is I do around 100 miles on the bike a week - about 6 hours and I enjoy the odd chip. I am not a ripply doyenne of muscleyness - but I am not a chubster either.
I do see what amare is alluding to, in the way people seek instant results - however there seems to be a continuing trend on this thread anyone who isn't actually athletic or a woman who isn't a total bean pole are being quietly shuffled into the 'fatty' camp.
amare32 said:
Everything like the above a help but to achieve meaningful results, that ain't going to cut it.
If people want to be fit and look remotely like a Cristiano Ronaldo, some gentle running and ab crunches ain't going to get it done. People are deluded into thinking that's all they need to do.
When they don't achieve the results after a short period, they go off in a huff and order a box of 22" pizza.
But that is trying to get 95% of the population to look like the top 1% fittest people on the planet, which isn't the aim. In fact, that attitude is part of the problem, in that it discourages "unhealthy" people from doing exercise.If people want to be fit and look remotely like a Cristiano Ronaldo, some gentle running and ab crunches ain't going to get it done. People are deluded into thinking that's all they need to do.
When they don't achieve the results after a short period, they go off in a huff and order a box of 22" pizza.
One thing that I think also doesn't help are that the programs that look at fat/obese people and try to change their lifestyle/diet/exercise always pick participants on the upper end of the scale. While this probably makes for better telly (more of a transformation/journey) i think it lets overweight people look and think "I'm not fat, I'm nowhere near as big as them".
Might help if they showed a few 5'10" men who weigh 12st 8lbs (officially overweight) featured, might make people wake up and realise that at 13, 14, 15st they are far too big.
Dr Jekyll said:
LordGrover said:
Maybe you're unfit? Once you get over the hump maybe you'd feel better about it. 
king hero. Edit: if you want to improve your health and fitness, pick a sport you fancy doing and find a group or partner at your level. You won't notice you're burning fat/improving your fitness because you'll be having so much fun.
Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 1st April 15:49
Vocal Minority said:
What amare is saying goes back a little to my earlier point about define 'fatties'.
Amare32 is moving onto his particular thing, which is remaining super fit, 6% body fat, Wolverine etc etc - which is great. It is what you want, and it is what you have achieved. It is very impressive.
However, I don't want to look like Christiano Ronaldo. I could if I wanted to - but due to me not doing the exercise and more importantly not sticking to the required diet I think it is fairly safe to assume 'I don't want it bad enough' as some would put it. If I did want it badly enough, I rather suppose I would eat loads of celery, no Pizzas and sweat my @rse off for 15 hours a week.
As it is I do around 100 miles on the bike a week - about 6 hours and I enjoy the odd chip. I am not a ripply doyenne of muscleyness - but I am not a chubster either.
I do see what amare is alluding to, in the way people seek instant results - however there seems to be a continuing trend on this thread anyone who isn't actually athletic or a woman who isn't a total bean pole are being quietly shuffled into the 'fatty' camp.
Similarly, I'm happily loitering around the 12% BF. I eat and drink what I want (I've nicknamed Fridays as Fun Food Fridays but generally, I do eat healthily - chicken salad is lunch most days) because I play various sports and do various training through the week. I'm not really too fussed about BF% these days as I'm too busy having fun doing the sports I do. I wouldn't mind more muscle but I'm probably burning off too much to build. Like I say, I'm enjoying myself.Amare32 is moving onto his particular thing, which is remaining super fit, 6% body fat, Wolverine etc etc - which is great. It is what you want, and it is what you have achieved. It is very impressive.
However, I don't want to look like Christiano Ronaldo. I could if I wanted to - but due to me not doing the exercise and more importantly not sticking to the required diet I think it is fairly safe to assume 'I don't want it bad enough' as some would put it. If I did want it badly enough, I rather suppose I would eat loads of celery, no Pizzas and sweat my @rse off for 15 hours a week.
As it is I do around 100 miles on the bike a week - about 6 hours and I enjoy the odd chip. I am not a ripply doyenne of muscleyness - but I am not a chubster either.
I do see what amare is alluding to, in the way people seek instant results - however there seems to be a continuing trend on this thread anyone who isn't actually athletic or a woman who isn't a total bean pole are being quietly shuffled into the 'fatty' camp.
Re the TV, sports has become my entertainment - I've been known to play tennis in the snow. (You know you need to stop when your left hand has started to ache from the cold.
)boyse7en said:
Might help if they showed a few 5'10" men who weigh 12st 8lbs (officially overweight) featured, might make people wake up and realise that at 13, 14, 15st they are far too big.
But even 5'10" and 15 stone give a BMI only fractionally over 30. Life expectancy only starts be suffer with BMI > 30 so someone of that height and 12st 8lbs really doesn't need to worry about it.Otispunkmeyer said:
I don't understand how people don't exercise. I'm sat here, I missed training last night because of an exam today and I was last in the pool on Sunday. I haven't been to the gym for 2/weeks either (time used for exam prep) and I am now at the end of my tether. I feel awful. Which is why, now the exam is done, I'm going to the gym.
I went back to gym on Sunday after 3 weeks off. Even though I never ate junk food or went to the chip ship, it felt as if I had. I ballooned up around 09-10, but thankfully I lost weight. I still got some more to lose, but compared to before...I feel much better too.
Going gym feels good mentally and physically for me. I'm not no Ronnie Coleman or Usain Bolt.
IMO being an active person is just as important as exercising. I walk to work, and pretty much everywhere else.
Hoofy said:
I'm not sure - at that age, you can't do the things you want to do even if you have no ailments. Unless the things you want to do are bowls or walking.
Oh, the fasting guy doesn't look a day over 70.
He reminds me of how my dad looked 6 months before cancer killed him TBH.
I dunno, he looked quite capable to me. Helping people almost 30 years his junior to eat.Oh, the fasting guy doesn't look a day over 70.
He reminds me of how my dad looked 6 months before cancer killed him TBH.That sounds like a ringing endorsement.
otolith said:
I have ste dl speed, but after seeing the pic, I'm gonna dl that. I know several young ladies at my gym who are in cracking shape.
I like the gym.
otolith said:
Not porkers, just plonkers.I find the whole fat thing fascinating and agree that it seems far too complex to lose weight. Fact is, eat less (like, waaaaay less), move more = weight loss. It's become the norm to be a bit lardy because everyone compares themselves to their peers. But then, when your peers are actually all, in reality, overweight then you're screwed because your perception of weight changes.
The hubster and I lost a shed load of weight last year, in four months, with about 10 mins of intense exercise a day. 10 minutes. And I was only just overweight (BMI 26) and, with two horses, pretty active to start with. I used a trainer - best money we've ever spent and have never set foot in a gym. I don't feel like I look any different because I never noticed I was really overweight to start with. Obviously, I now look like a Victoria's Secret model*.
The most positive thing from being fit wasn't fitting into smaller clothes (the trainer was cheap, the new clothes have ruined us) but feeling totally empowered by being able to run ten miles, cycle 40k, play two hours of tennis, whatever, without feeling fooked. Well that, and having thighs that mean if my bucking bronco wants to try and ditch me, I can cling on like I'm like that bird from the Bond movie
The hubster and I lost a shed load of weight last year, in four months, with about 10 mins of intense exercise a day. 10 minutes. And I was only just overweight (BMI 26) and, with two horses, pretty active to start with. I used a trainer - best money we've ever spent and have never set foot in a gym. I don't feel like I look any different because I never noticed I was really overweight to start with. Obviously, I now look like a Victoria's Secret model*.
The most positive thing from being fit wasn't fitting into smaller clothes (the trainer was cheap, the new clothes have ruined us) but feeling totally empowered by being able to run ten miles, cycle 40k, play two hours of tennis, whatever, without feeling fooked. Well that, and having thighs that mean if my bucking bronco wants to try and ditch me, I can cling on like I'm like that bird from the Bond movie
- Apart from the knockers
Halb said:
Hoofy said:
I'm not sure - at that age, you can't do the things you want to do even if you have no ailments. Unless the things you want to do are bowls or walking.
Oh, the fasting guy doesn't look a day over 70. He reminds me of how my dad looked 6 months before cancer killed him TBH.
I dunno, he looked quite capable to me. Helping people almost 30 years his junior to eat.Oh, the fasting guy doesn't look a day over 70.
He reminds me of how my dad looked 6 months before cancer killed him TBH.That sounds like a ringing endorsement.
k that. I'd rather be dead.Fact is, the best he can do is a brisk walk. Talk about being trapped in my own body.
toohangry said:
King Herald said:
When I'm offshore I exercise most every day, but I always seem to have something more interesting to do when I'm home.
If we had some exercise equipment in the house I might be inclined to use it, but getting dressed up in the gym gear, driving to a gym etc, always seems to be low priority when there is the workshop or PS4 or some beer calling out my name.
It's a shame that your employer keeps you in good shape for their gains but you can't apply the same logic for your own. If we had some exercise equipment in the house I might be inclined to use it, but getting dressed up in the gym gear, driving to a gym etc, always seems to be low priority when there is the workshop or PS4 or some beer calling out my name.
My employer has nothing to do with my exercise, other than they have some equipment on the ship, as does probably every ship or rig in the oil patch. I choose to exercise at work mainly because there isn't a great deal else to do during my 12 hours off shift.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff