Weight training routine ?

Weight training routine ?

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J4CKO

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41,530 posts

200 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Ok, I am set up now and have been faffing about with the weights in the shed, just trying stuff but am basically pissing about, certainly feel better and there is a little bit of definition coming back, forgot how good it makes you feel

Any suggestions of a routine to follow for a ageing (44) beginner ?

How many exercises would you typically do in a workout and how many reps ?

I am going in there for say 40 mins every other day and using the computer in there to watch videos to get new exercises

I am lifting sixty kilos fairly easily on the bench press again, so that came back reasonably quickly, ok, it isn't a lot compared to what you lot do but am not looking to get huge, just tone up and get some shape back, no particular desire to get fixated on lifting big weight, just what I need to get some benefit.

I think I will need to go to the local gym to do anything leg related as am a bit limited with a bench and free weights, there is an attachment for the bench for legs but its a bit crap, am getting another bar and going to attempt some light squats, concentrating on form with a bar, I have pretty bad flexibility in my lower legs and when I squat I find it difficult to keep my feet flat.

So, any pointers gratefully received !

Am also looking at my diet as well, am thinking all I need to do is avoid crap and eat better, lean meat, eggs, nuts etc, is there any point in anything else with my aims, i.e. not being fat, getting toned and maybe building a bit of muscle but not trying to be a bodybuilder.







I need to sort my diet out and stop eating ste,

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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r/fitness on reddit, read the FAQ chap.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Check Youtube for ankle, knee and hip mobility exercises. Then persist with squats and deadlifts.

If your mobility is poor now, don't stress the joints out, piling them up with weight until you can see that flexibility/mobility is improving and you can do so with proper form.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Oh, and if you regard the generalisations of 'eat less = lose weight' and 'train hard = get fit' as mutually exclusive activities, you'll not disappoint yourself when one or the other doesn't materialise.

J4CKO

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41,530 posts

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Monday 11th May 2015
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V8mate said:
Check Youtube for ankle, knee and hip mobility exercises. Then persist with squats and deadlifts.

If your mobility is poor now, don't stress the joints out, piling them up with weight until you can see that flexibility/mobility is improving and you can do so with proper form.
Yeah, I think cycling hasn't helped there, will look at the exercises and then practice with a bar on its own and only add weight when I can do it properly.

I tend to gravitate to sets of ten, for example on the bench press I do four sets of ten with 60 kilos, is that overdoing it a bit for that one exercise ?

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 11th May 17:00

Frenchda

1,318 posts

233 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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46 here and started last year, Stronglifts 5x5 or starting strength seem to be good for progression and the linear progress keeps you interested so that the "habit can form.

One thing from my experiance is that i would throw in at least one session a week or more just stretching, mobility and foam rolling. Us old folk forget that we cannot move like we used too.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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J4CKO said:
Yeah, I think cycling hasn't helped there, will look at the exercises and then practice with a bar on its own and only add weight when I can do it properly.

I tend to gravitate to sets of ten, for example on the bench press I do four sets of ten with 60 kilos, is that overdoing it a bit for that one exercise ?

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 11th May 17:00
The mobility exercises will be without bar too. Pure, focussed stretches and positioning.

Re lifting, depends what you want to do. If you want to build strength, Google 'stronglifts 5x5'.
If you want to build visible muscle, mix volume with pushing yourself to failure.
For example:
15 x 50kg
12 x 60kg
8-10 x 70kg

If you can do that, add 5kg to each (at your next session) until you find a point at which you're failing to achieve 8 in the heaviest set. Then you know where to persist before increasing again.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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If you are enjoying it, and it seems that you are, you really must try and buy a squat rack. Squats are the bread and butter of any weight training routine and they really must be included.

I think a decent routine for a beginner would be something like this:

Squats - 3 sets of 5 reps
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5 reps
Barbell Press - 3 sets of 5 reps
Curls - 3 sets of 5 reps
Dumbbell or barbell Rows - 3 sets of 5 reps

Deadlifts - 1x5 reps once per week.

You could do 5 sets of each, and have the first two sets as much lighter warm up sets.

Isolation exercises aren't that important when starting out, it's the heavy compounds that make the biggest impact.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Lots of good articles in the wiki

J4CKO

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Monday 11th May 2015
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chris watton said:
If you are enjoying it, and it seems that you are, you really must try and buy a squat rack. Squats are the bread and butter of any weight training routine and they really must be included.

I think a decent routine for a beginner would be something like this:

Squats - 3 sets of 5 reps
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5 reps
Barbell Press - 3 sets of 5 reps
Curls - 3 sets of 5 reps
Dumbbell or barbell Rows - 3 sets of 5 reps

Deadlifts - 1x5 reps once per week.

You could do 5 sets of each, and have the first two sets as much lighter warm up sets.

Isolation exercises aren't that important when starting out, it's the heavy compounds that make the biggest impact.
Cheers, when you say a Squat rack do you mean the stands or a full on cage type arrangement, might have to re-arrange the man shed yet further to fit one in.


chris watton

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Monday 11th May 2015
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J4CKO said:
Cheers, when you say a Squat rack do you mean the stands or a full on cage type arrangement, might have to re-arrange the man shed yet further to fit one in.
For your shed, perhaps something like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bodymax-CF415-Squat-Spotte...

Probably find them cheaper on EBay...

J4CKO

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Monday 11th May 2015
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chris watton said:
J4CKO said:
Cheers, when you say a Squat rack do you mean the stands or a full on cage type arrangement, might have to re-arrange the man shed yet further to fit one in.
For your shed, perhaps something like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bodymax-CF415-Squat-Spotte...

Probably find them cheaper on EBay...
Cheers Chris, will need to clear some of the storage out, of the shed will see how I progress and if I stick to it, might buy one when I get paid, did a few tonight with twenty kilos on a curling bar as that was all that was handy, and wasn't as bad as I thought, mangled to keep my feet flat, heart was pounding afterwards, just going to take it easy, getting another long bar and some more weights off a chap at work tomorrow.

Total spend so far after buying the last lot and selling the rower and exercise bike is twenty quid with these new ones, he always sells stuff to cheap and I feel bad so ended up reverse haggling from fifteen to forty quid, still not bad for sixty kilos of disks, a bar and two dumbells

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Another vote for the 415 here. Can also use when benching so that you are always safe.

J4CKO

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41,530 posts

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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I have found it is making me hungry, I had intended to have a sachet of Porridge but ended up with a Sausage butty, think I need to eat breakfast at home rather than give in to the temptations at work.

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Eat more protein if your hungry, it will help your muscles recover and it also suppresses your appetite.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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If you're considering kitting out your own gym, I'd think carefully which rack/cage to get.
Both of those mentioned are good, but missing something.
The rack cannot be used for pullups/chinups though it can be used for dips.
The CF375 can be used for chins but not dips.
The CF475 may cost a little more but you can do all the above and add things like pulley and weight stack for seated rows, etc.

ETA - I think I may've bought the dip bars separately, but the holes are in the arms.


Another vote for 5x5 too. thumbup

Food-wise; keep it clean, not in packets. Reduce if not eliminate processed 'foods' - eat fresh veg, fruit, meat and fish. Milk and eggs too.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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I recommended that squat rack because, I believe, the shed height is restrictive.

Oh yes, and your diet is just as important, perhaps more so that the actual training - plenty of whole foods, protein and very little bread, sugar and processed foods.

Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 12th May 11:13

J4CKO

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41,530 posts

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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chris watton said:
I recommended that squat rack because, I believe, the shed height is restrictive.

Oh yes, and your diet is just as important, perhaps more so that the actual training - plenty of whole foods, protein and very little bread, sugar and processed foods.

Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 12th May 11:13
Yeah, height is at a premium in the shed/cabin, its about six foot at the sides and perhaps eight in the middle, can get a barbel to full stretch in one place but height is at a premium, I am six foot.

Got a nice steak for tonight (Aldi Fillet), baked potato and salad.


LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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lick Have you tried 'reverse sear' method for steak?
Someone mentioned it here: CLICK. I got it wrong first attempt but looks promising.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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J4CKO said:
Yeah, height is at a premium in the shed/cabin, its about six foot at the sides and perhaps eight in the middle, can get a barbel to full stretch in one place but height is at a premium, I am six foot.
Just join a gym!

Most are open long hours/24 hours, they have all the toys you'll need and more, and you get mirrors to check out how buff you're looking wink