Is losing weight really that difficult?

Is losing weight really that difficult?

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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SpunkyGlory said:
This is meant as an innocent discussion and I fully accept it is a subject area I can learn a lot about.
Western culture is geared towards greed (overall but food in particular) with the same doublespeak and deceit used.
It is in the interest of making fat profits for the food companies that most of them make their food as addictive as possible.
The documentary, The Men Who Made Us Fat covers all the different aspects of why the explosion in fatties has gone mental since the 70s.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Hoofy said:
Art0ir said:
Just build more muscle, increase your Basal Metabolic Rate and then eat your heart out hehe

I was 83kg last September with lots of fat and little muscle. Cut to 75kg then spent the past few months bulking responsibly. I'm back up to 82kg and have been for around 2 months, with not too much fat and am eating more than ever.

To increase my weight now I'll actually have to eat more than is comfortable.
Pretty much my attitude these days. People who know me say I eat all the time and they shake their heads but then they add, "but you seem to be able to get away with it."
Indeed, dieting by itself is a very inefficient, unpleasant and temporary way of losing fat. When you just eat less without a solid exercise routine you lose muscle, your metabolism slows right down making you feel crap and the moment you start eating anything again it gets piled straight on as fat as the body is in 'famine mode'. The result is an endless yoyo diet cycle of permanently being skinny-fat and feeling rubbish which seems to be how much of the population lives their lives (especially females).

Through weight lifting and improving my diet (eating better food not less calories) I lost over a stone whilst actually trying to gain weight, now I am back over where I started but far stronger and looking worlds better.

LordGrover said:
It's quite hard to overeat fresh veg. hehe
I found that isn't true, it turns out if you eat enough vegetables in one sitting the digestive repercussions are deeply unpleasant. Never again paperbag.

272BHP said:
Is losing weight really that difficult? who cares?

The problem, as always, is the fixation with weight loss. I don't care if I weigh 14stone or 12 stone all I care about is health, performance and being reasonably happy with the reflection in the mirror. Weight loss can be a byproduct of these goals but it should never be the goal in itself.

Concentrate on performance and health (so eat mainly natural foods and train hard to reach your physical potential) and I assure you everything else will sort itself out.

This is the best approach. I have pontificated about this for a few years now but I really have thought this through. Give it some thought and I am confident that in the course of time you will come to the same conclusion - just don't leave it too late.

Life is for living, not weighing food, reading charts and standing on scales.
Indeed, the scales are not a good measure of progress towards becoming a better version of yourself, the mirror and the numbers on the weights are much better. Losing a load of fat and replacing it with muscle won't show any results on the scales but is surely the ultimate goal.

Hoofy

76,361 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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yes I weighed 72kg before I joined the first transformation thread about 3 years ago. I weighed myself today... 72kg. biggrin

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Hoofy said:
Terminator X said:
SpunkyGlory said:
But is it really as difficult as some people seem to think? I'm a firm believer in calories in vs calories out for weight control, and whilst I appreciate there are variables to this simple formula there can't be much more to it than that, can there? Count your calories, avoid foods high in fat and sugar, exercise a couple of times a week and if you're burning more calories than you're consuming you should lose weight. So what am I missing?
You should write a book on it or do a DVD, you'd make £millions man wink

TX.
The problem with such a book, is that the book would be 5 pages long:
Page 1: EAT
Page 2: LESS,
Page 3: MOVE
Page 4: MORE,

PAGE 5: FATTY!
Nutritionist on Radio 5 live the other night said that "eat less move more" was the worst bit of advice she has ever heard!

But to be honest Eat better and get a bike would cure a lot of "big boned" and "slow metabolism" apologists! wink

Hoofy

76,361 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Granfondo said:
Nutritionist on Radio 5 live the other night said that "eat less move more" was the worst bit of advice she has ever heard!

But to be honest Eat better and get a bike would cure a lot of "big boned" and "slow metabolism" apologists! wink
She's probably on the wrong end of the BMI scale keeping our end from dropping. wink

throt

3,055 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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The problem these days is that people forget that its actually okay to feel hungry.

And there is nothing worse than a parent giving more food to there child because they say the child has a big appetite. They are just feeding greedy habits.

Sensible portion size is the starter key..

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Keep it, the paunch is attractive apparently:

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/a-woman-explai...

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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227bhp said:
Keep it, the paunch is attractive apparently:

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/a-woman-explai...
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article blah. Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.

LordGrover

33,545 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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TurboHatchback said:
227bhp said:
Keep it, the paunch is attractive apparently:

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/a-woman-explai...
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article blah. Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.
Heh. Ignoring the photos which I think are of unfit fatties, the article sounds like me.
article said:
...when a man goes to the gym but drinks more beer and eats more food than they probably should. It's a "sturdy body with a layer of subcutaneous fat that makes it attractive to have him in your bed when it’s cold outside.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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LordGrover said:
TurboHatchback said:
227bhp said:
Keep it, the paunch is attractive apparently:

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/a-woman-explai...
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article blah. Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.
Heh. Ignoring the photos which I think are of unfit fatties, the article sounds like me.
article said:
...when a man goes to the gym but drinks more beer and eats more food than they probably should. It's a "sturdy body with a layer of subcutaneous fat that makes it attractive to have him in your bed when it’s cold outside.
Surely a layer of fat means the man stays warm without radiating it all away, so a fat bloke should feel cooler in bed than a lean bloke.

LordGrover

33,545 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Dunno. I've never given much thought to sleeping with any kind of bloke.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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LordGrover said:
Dunno. I've never given much thought to sleeping with any kind of bloke.
hehe I suspect my assertion is gender-neutral despite the specific example used hehe Anyway, I've always found lean athletic ladies to be hot in bed... phnarr phnarr

Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Losing weight is easy if:

A) You stick to a regime
B) You don't lie to yourself what your actual calories Vs output really are