D*cks who drop weights

[airweaz]

Lift weight more reps is just as good for you as the limit of your lifting.

There was a guy in last week at my gym who didn't put clips on the hammer bar. Managed one lift arms buckled weights thrown all over the floor.

He had over loaded it to start with any for the fellas build. No way he was lift what he put on it easily. And I say that knowing full well im not a big guy but I know what I can lift.

[liam1986]

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

[Digger]

Only time I drop weights is when finishing the last rep of flat/incline dumbbell bench press with weights nearer my limit. It protects from aggravating rotator cuffs.

[R8Steve]

liam1986 said:

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

Maybe not of benefit to him, but it would be a benefit to the other 100 odd people in the building that are diving for cover thinking the building is falling down every time he does a rep

[ikarl]

last rep, of my last set, at the bottom of a squat with 160kg on my shoulders and the stupid behind me doing bent over rows drops the 60kg he's using from waist height.

Absolutely crapped myself. Not like he couldn't have put it down easy enough, he was certainly big enough.....just a .

[CarlosFandango11]

Zod said:

SHutchinson said:

This is encouraged at some Crossfit gyms I've been in. Waste of effort putting it down you see, especially when doing heavy deadlift reps for time!

Erm Crossfit and heavy deadlifts?

No experience of CrossFit then.
King Kong for example:
http://www.wodboard.com/benchmarks/king-kong

[didelydoo]

CarlosFandango11 said:

No experience of CrossFit then.
King Kong for example:
http://www.wodboard.com/benchmarks/king-kong

He did say heavy deadlifts...

[Zod]

didelydoo said:

CarlosFandango11 said:

No experience of CrossFit then.
King Kong for example:
http://www.wodboard.com/benchmarks/king-kong

He did say heavy deadlifts...

I don't even know what that link is supposed to tell me.

[CarlosFandango11]

Zod said:

I don't even know what that link is supposed to tell me.

Considering the post is replying to someone questioning heavy deadlifts, it's not hard to workout that "deadlift 455 lbs" is relevant...

[Deadlift]

br d said:

I see loads of people at my gym using the lat bar with terrible form, they look ridiculous.
They overload it by a mile and then do that ridiculous leaning right back thing so their whole body weight is pulling on it, they also come down all unbalanced with their stronger arm dipping towards the floor, and then they let it crash back down because they can't return it slowly. Just take some bloody weight off it and do the things with proper form.
It can only be so they can boast about the amount they're pulling.

So I'm doing it wrong then? http://youtu.be/gJ3cRBcPU-Q

[Zod]

CarlosFandango11 said:

Zod said:

I don't even know what that link is supposed to tell me.

Considering the post is replying to someone questioning heavy deadlifts, it's not hard to workout that "deadlift 455 lbs" is relevant...

One rep max? Multiple reps as part of a circuit? It's not a very informative page.

Anyway, you're clearly upset at the perceived slight against cross-fit.

[Zod]

liam1986 said:

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

The lowering is clearly beneficial. You can feel it in your glutes and hamstrings.

[R8Steve]

Zod said:

liam1986 said:

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

The lowering is clearly beneficial. You can feel it in your glutes and hamstrings.

It's easy to see why there is so much dropping of weights in the gym going with some of the comments on here. The deadlift is not a one way exercise, that would be like doing a dumbell curl and dropping the weight at the top of the contraction.

How to Deadlift – A Step-by-Step Guide

Step 1: Approach the bar and set your feet
Step 2: Stand up tall
Step 3: Hip hinge driving your hips backward while keeping your torso straight
Step 4: As your hips go back, reach for the bar
Step 5: Grab your bar with a double overhand grip and squeeze as hard as you can
Step 6: Take a deep breath and brace your core outward in all directions
Step 7: Pull up on the bar to ‘take the slack out’, engage your lats, and pull your hips down to lock into position
Step 8: Drive your knees outward into your forearms creating torque at the hips
Step 9: With your torso locked into position, while maintaining intense full body tension, drive the floor away with a powerful leg press
Step 10: After the bar passes your knees, drive the hips forward with a powerful glute contraction, locking your body into a straight position
Step 11: Reverse the movement by re-engaging a hip hinge and driving the hips back until the bar reaches your knees
Step 12: After the bar passes the knees, squat the bar back to the floor under control
Step 13: Reset and repeat

Step 11 and 12 being relevant here

[Zod]

R8Steve said:

Zod said:

liam1986 said:

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

The lowering is clearly beneficial. You can feel it in your glutes and hamstrings.

It's easy to see why there is so much dropping of weights in the gym going with some of the comments on here. The deadlift is not a one way exercise, that would be like doing a dumbell curl and dropping the weight at the top of the contraction.

How to Deadlift – A Step-by-Step Guide

Step 1: Approach the bar and set your feet
Step 2: Stand up tall
Step 3: Hip hinge driving your hips backward while keeping your torso straight
Step 4: As your hips go back, reach for the bar
Step 5: Grab your bar with a double overhand grip and squeeze as hard as you can
Step 6: Take a deep breath and brace your core outward in all directions
Step 7: Pull up on the bar to ‘take the slack out’, engage your lats, and pull your hips down to lock into position
Step 8: Drive your knees outward into your forearms creating torque at the hips
Step 9: With your torso locked into position, while maintaining intense full body tension, drive the floor away with a powerful leg press
Step 10: After the bar passes your knees, drive the hips forward with a powerful glute contraction, locking your body into a straight position
Step 11: Reverse the movement by re-engaging a hip hinge and driving the hips back until the bar reaches your knees
Step 12: After the bar passes the knees, squat the bar back to the floor under control
Step 13: Reset and repeat

Step 11 and 12 being relevant here

Interesting. I have to say that I've never thought it through in anything like that kind of detail. My principal concern is keeping the small of my back tucked in.

[didelydoo]

R8Steve said:

It's easy to see why there is so much dropping of weights in the gym going with some of the comments on here. The deadlift is not a one way exercise, that would be like doing a dumbell curl and dropping the weight at the top of the contraction.

How to Deadlift – A Step-by-Step Guide

Step 1: Approach the bar and set your feet
Step 2: Stand up tall
Step 3: Hip hinge driving your hips backward while keeping your torso straight
Step 4: As your hips go back, reach for the bar
Step 5: Grab your bar with a double overhand grip and squeeze as hard as you can
Step 6: Take a deep breath and brace your core outward in all directions
Step 7: Pull up on the bar to ‘take the slack out’, engage your lats, and pull your hips down to lock into position
Step 8: Drive your knees outward into your forearms creating torque at the hips
Step 9: With your torso locked into position, while maintaining intense full body tension, drive the floor away with a powerful leg press
Step 10: After the bar passes your knees, drive the hips forward with a powerful glute contraction, locking your body into a straight position
Step 11: Reverse the movement by re-engaging a hip hinge and driving the hips back until the bar reaches your knees
Step 12: After the bar passes the knees, squat the bar back to the floor under control
Step 13: Reset and repeat

Step 11 and 12 being relevant here

I think you're forgetting that people deadlift for different reasons, many to lift the weight rather than worrying about the negative portion, which is very much a secondary consideration. In Weightlifting for example, it's not even a consideration.

[R8Steve]

Zod said:

nteresting. I have to say that I've never thought it through in anything like that kind of detail. My principal concern is keeping the small of my back tucked in.

You're concentrating on the most important part there so no harm in that. If you don't keep your back straight you are in for a world of pain and the rest of the steps are irrelevant.

I have lifted too heavy once in the past at the sacrifice of form, didn't keep my back straight and spent the next 3 days in bed with extreme back pain/spasms that even Carisoprodol and Diazepam wouldn't relive...not recommended, trust me!

[CarlosFandango11]

Zod said:

One rep max? Multiple reps as part of a circuit? It's not a very informative page.

455lbs is a heavy deadlift for most people.

[dave_s13]

CarlosFandango11 said:

455lbs is a heavy deadlift for most people.

Too right. 206kg is not to be sniffed at. In fact I reckon 95% of the entire human race couldn't deadlift that much.

[Thankyou4calling]

dave_s13 said:

Too right. 206kg is not to be sniffed at. In fact I reckon 95% of the entire human race couldn't deadlift that much.

I'd say a lot fewer than that %.

5% = 300 million people! I'd be surprised if a million could do a PROPER deadlift with that weight.

[AngryPartsBloke]

Zod said:

liam1986 said:

R8Steve said:

There's a guy at my gym that was doing deadlifts the other day and had about 120kg on the bar. Every time he performed a rep he would drop the bar from pretty much waist height. The full building shook each time and i was convinced that the bar was going to go through the floor at some point.

Absolutely no need and just one of a long list of my gym hates.

a deadlift is about generating force to get the weight moving of the floor, the lowering of the weight isn't really going to be of a benefit.

120kg was he warming up then you need 250kg+ to start cracking the concrete floor

The lowering is clearly beneficial. You can feel it in your glutes and hamstrings.

Most coaches will have their athletes drop the deadlift becuase the eccnetric portion of the lift is where DOMS come from. My entire programme is based around Olympic lifting, the last thing i want is to be fighting with a tight or sore lower back during the 1st pull of my snatch or Clean & jerk.

oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.

A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.