D*cks who drop weights
Discussion
AngryPartsBloke said:
Most coaches will have their athletes drop the deadlift becuase the eccnetric portion of the lift is where DOMS come from. My entire programme is based around Olympic lifting, the last thing i want is to be fighting with a tight or sore lower back during the 1st pull of my snatch or Clean & jerk.
oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
R8Steve said:
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.
You drop the weights when Weightlifting (Olympic Weightlifting)- every time. The negative part plays no role. The plates are bumper plates designed specifically for this.didelydoo said:
R8Steve said:
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.
You drop the weights when Weightlifting (Olympic Weightlifting)- every time. The negative part plays no role. The plates are bumper plates designed specifically for this.I was doing some snatch practice last night. Christ I'm crap at snatches.
Once it's up there, getting it down safely is best done with gravity. In my case I only use a light weight given my dodgy shoulder and shocking mobility (getting a full snatch is my nemesis) so lowering it back is preferable. If it's too light the bar fooks off down the gym at any old angle.
Take home point though - rubber bumper plates are designed to be dropped - so it has it's place.
R8Steve said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
Most coaches will have their athletes drop the deadlift becuase the eccnetric portion of the lift is where DOMS come from. My entire programme is based around Olympic lifting, the last thing i want is to be fighting with a tight or sore lower back during the 1st pull of my snatch or Clean & jerk.
oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
AngryPartsBloke said:
R8Steve said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
Most coaches will have their athletes drop the deadlift becuase the eccnetric portion of the lift is where DOMS come from. My entire programme is based around Olympic lifting, the last thing i want is to be fighting with a tight or sore lower back during the 1st pull of my snatch or Clean & jerk.
oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
t.R8Steve said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
R8Steve said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
Most coaches will have their athletes drop the deadlift becuase the eccnetric portion of the lift is where DOMS come from. My entire programme is based around Olympic lifting, the last thing i want is to be fighting with a tight or sore lower back during the 1st pull of my snatch or Clean & jerk.
oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.oh, you can bet I'm also going to be dropping a bodyweight lift from overhead and not lowering it down all gentle.
A lot of coaches will have their clients drop the weight if they are new to deadlifts as well in order to avoid any injury.
t.I train at a dedicated S&C gym full of people training in Olympic Weightlifting, for strongman comps and a range of other sports. If you think you can Clean &Jerk or Snatch your bodyweight + and gently set the weight down from overhead crack on.
Meanwhile I'm going to use the bumper plates and lifting platfroms for the purpose they were created for.
If you can gently drop the weight down you aren't lifting heavy enough.
CarlosFandango11 said:
Zod said:
One rep max? Multiple reps as part of a circuit? It's not a very informative page.
455lbs is a heavy deadlift for most people.CarlosFandango11 said:
Zod said:
One rep max? Multiple reps as part of a circuit? It's not a very informative page.
455lbs is a heavy deadlift for most people.didelydoo said:
R8Steve said:
You are more likely to get injured dropping the weight. Your spine is similar to a spring and compresses under the weight so when all that weight is quickly released your spine releases a lot of energy at once opposed to gradually if you set it down.
You drop the weights when Weightlifting (Olympic Weightlifting)- every time. The negative part plays no role. The plates are bumper plates designed specifically for this.Edited by Zod on Thursday 9th July 15:42
My god this fking annoys me and its always followed by them trying to stare you down. It's very rare that I think say something please say something but this is always one of those moments.
There was one fktard at my old gym who through his girl weights down and shadow kicked the mirror.
This has just remind me I need to sort my man cave/home gym out.
king annoys me and its always followed by them trying to stare you down. It's very rare that I think say something please say something but this is always one of those moments. There was one f
ktard at my old gym who through his girl weights down and shadow kicked the mirror. This has just remind me I need to sort my man cave/home gym out.
Dolph lookalike at my gym. Complete p*ick for a couple of reasons.
1) decides best way to de load the squat bar is to pull off the weights and let them fall to the floor.
2) carries the plates from one side of the room to the other and rather than place on the floor prefers to throw them
3) loads the ez bar with 2x25kg weights, does his curls and then leaves on the floor. He then has to step over the bar later to get more DB's.
Do people think they look cooler if they don't give a f*ck about anyone else?
1) decides best way to de load the squat bar is to pull off the weights and let them fall to the floor.
2) carries the plates from one side of the room to the other and rather than place on the floor prefers to throw them
3) loads the ez bar with 2x25kg weights, does his curls and then leaves on the floor. He then has to step over the bar later to get more DB's.
Do people think they look cooler if they don't give a f*ck about anyone else?
R8Steve said:
If we're listing hates -
Not putting dumbells/weights back or leaving bars fully loaded for someone else to unload.
Sitting on a bench on the phone/facebook/whatever
Gym selfies - just wrong
Extreme grunting/yelling
Groups of about 10 hogging half the gym and acting more like they are at a nightclub - if you want to socialise, do your gym stuff then go to the pub or something
People who put massive amounts of weight on a bar then proceed to swing it up with completely wrong form - no-one cares, no-one is going to come over and give you a medal for lifting such a heavy weight
Don't forget the gym staff who don't give a sNot putting dumbells/weights back or leaving bars fully loaded for someone else to unload.
Sitting on a bench on the phone/facebook/whatever
Gym selfies - just wrong
Extreme grunting/yelling
Groups of about 10 hogging half the gym and acting more like they are at a nightclub - if you want to socialise, do your gym stuff then go to the pub or something
People who put massive amounts of weight on a bar then proceed to swing it up with completely wrong form - no-one cares, no-one is going to come over and give you a medal for lifting such a heavy weight
t &/or suck up to the meatheads who do this.Every time I hear some nobber throwing weights onto the floor, it reminds me of the golden rule that was mentioned to me over 20 years ago.
"If you cant put it down properly, dont pick it up"
I dont care what the science is behind it, dropping weights and screaming in the Gym is attention seeking of the highest order. If you think theres a need for it, ask yourself whats missing in your life to need the attention!
"If you cant put it down properly, dont pick it up"
I dont care what the science is behind it, dropping weights and screaming in the Gym is attention seeking of the highest order. If you think theres a need for it, ask yourself whats missing in your life to need the attention!
[quote=Four Litre]
"If you cant put it down properly, dont pick it up"
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Quite a catch 22 there, as you'll not know if you can put it down properly until you pick it up.
My gym has weights dropping all the time; but then it's a good gym, where people train hard. Nobody cares as long as everyone's sensible.
"If you cant put it down properly, dont pick it up"
[quote]
Quite a catch 22 there, as you'll not know if you can put it down properly until you pick it up.
My gym has weights dropping all the time; but then it's a good gym, where people train hard. Nobody cares as long as everyone's sensible.
Entirely depends on context. The expectation to quietly and considerately lower the weight to the floor or into the rack is impossible at near-limit percentages. Certainly this is true for many of the more useful exercises: the Oly lifts, the deadlift, even re-racking the squat or the bench, that can clang a bit... You can't lower those weights under absolute control when you're working at a meaningful percentage of 1RM. Regardless of whether you're Ronnie Coleman or Dmitry Klokov or Ed Coan or just a raw beginner. If you don't think this is true, go do it: learn the movement and you'll see for sure.
That said, at many, many gyms this isn't the case. In a lot of places (nearly always the slick, commercial kind of gym) there is a certain mindset from a few people who absolutely do try to draw attention to their manliness by being utter dicks. I've seen dumbbells being thrown (thrown!) by egotistical meat-heads as well as many other perennial complaints - weights not re-racked, unnecessary shouting / grunting etc.
There's a gulf of difference between legitimately working near your limit, and being an attention-seeking fool.
If your difficulty is with the bad attitude (as opposed to being dysfunctionally averse to loud noises), look into joining a 'serious' gym where Olympic lifting and / or power-lifting is practiced. Yes there'll be some noise - but the attitudes will be among the friendliest and most supportive you could imagine.
Edited for grammar.
That said, at many, many gyms this isn't the case. In a lot of places (nearly always the slick, commercial kind of gym) there is a certain mindset from a few people who absolutely do try to draw attention to their manliness by being utter dicks. I've seen dumbbells being thrown (thrown!) by egotistical meat-heads as well as many other perennial complaints - weights not re-racked, unnecessary shouting / grunting etc.
There's a gulf of difference between legitimately working near your limit, and being an attention-seeking fool.
If your difficulty is with the bad attitude (as opposed to being dysfunctionally averse to loud noises), look into joining a 'serious' gym where Olympic lifting and / or power-lifting is practiced. Yes there'll be some noise - but the attitudes will be among the friendliest and most supportive you could imagine.
Edited for grammar.
Edited by MurderousCrow on Tuesday 21st July 19:42
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
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