D*cks who drop weights

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MurderousCrow

392 posts

151 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Worst 'I can incline press 60kg dumbbells' reply ever smile

Deadlift

56 posts

108 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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LA Fitness - the perfect PH gym

http://youtu.be/W13iAs-WHQ0

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I don't think anyone is complaining about the clang from putting weights down on the floor or a rack when exhausted at the end of a set. I was doing clean and press yesterday and at the end of each set, I was letting the weights clang a bit as I set them down. It's the dropping from a height.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Zod said:
It's the dropping from a height.
I do it... Sometimes you have to- no chance i'll be attempting to catch/slow some of the lifts I put up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEq7BaPQPuw
As mentioned, it depends on the gym, the type of people there, and I suppose the reason for dropping.

TheJimi

25,001 posts

244 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Man up? Really?

What you lack in comprehension ability you certainly make up for in testosterone smile

For clarity, most of us are referring to this -

MurderousCrow said:
That said, at many, many gyms this isn't the case. In a lot of places (nearly always the slick, commercial kind of gym) there is a certain mindset from a few people who absolutely do try to draw attention to their manliness by being utter dicks. I've seen dumbbells being thrown (thrown!) by egotistical meat-heads as well as many other perennial complaints - weights not re-racked, unnecessary shouting / grunting etc.

There's a gulf of difference between legitimately working near your limit, and being an attention-seeking fool.
So you can take your "garuntee" and, well...

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 22 July 10:47

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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MurderousCrow said:
MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Worst 'I can incline press 60kg dumbbells' reply ever smile
rofl

ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Mark, I'm out of training just now because I dislocated my shoulder earlier in the year, but I've managed to incline bench 60's to failure before but never felt the need to drop them.

With the odd exception of a slipped weight, or me being completely unbalanced, I would always lower them to my chest and *help* the weights to the ground. There is no need to drop weights like most people do in gyms nowadays.


Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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ikarl said:
MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Mark, I'm out of training just now because I dislocated my shoulder earlier in the year, but I've managed to incline bench 60's to failure before but never felt the need to drop them.

With the odd exception of a slipped weight, or me being completely unbalanced, I would always lower them to my chest and *help* the weights to the ground. There is no need to drop weights like most people do in gyms nowadays.
You need a pretty empty gym to drop heavy dumbbells in any case. Mine are considerably lighter than 60kg, but I too lower the heavy ones onto my chest and then just get them to the floor in an inelegant way, but one that avoids injury to me or a heavy dumbbell bouncing across the floor into somebody's leg.

gifdy

2,073 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Bunch of girls. Once I've done my set I throw the weights through the wall into the car park. Graaaahhh !

TheJimi

25,001 posts

244 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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My technique for setting down dumbbells from the bench is to bring them back to my torso, sit up from whatever position I've been pressing from, then lower them to the floor. This works up to 50kg 'bells - coz that's the heaviest 'bells I can currently lift irked

Essentially the reverse of how I get 'em up in the first place.

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 22 July 11:47

R8Steve

4,150 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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ikarl said:
I'm out of training just now because I dislocated my shoulder earlier in the year
You got a dislocated shoulder cos you don't drop the weights brah wink

You're spot on, regardless of the weight there is no need to drop them.

Out of curiosity Mark, what do you do when you do a bench press to failure, do you need to drop that as well?

Hoofy

76,377 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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gifdy said:
MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Bunch of girls. Once I've done my set I throw the weights through the wall into the car park. Graaaahhh !
Lightweight. This is what happened the last time I completed my set and chucked a dumbbell: https://youtu.be/90Omh7_I8vI

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Hoofy said:
gifdy said:
MPowerMark said:
I can garuntee the only people on here moaning about dropping heavy weights are the skinny clueless types who have probably been working out since January and are probably making no progress. You try gently putting down 60 kg Dumbbells after incline pressing when you are working to failure. Seriously, man up.
Bunch of girls. Once I've done my set I throw the weights through the wall into the car park. Graaaahhh !
Lightweight. This is what happened the last time I completed my set and chucked a dumbbell: https://youtu.be/90Omh7_I8vI
hehe

When I read posts like Mr Mpower's, I feel so lucky I have the space for my own gym, so I never have to endure such people.

MurderousCrow

392 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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R8Steve said:
You got a dislocated shoulder cos you don't drop the weights brah wink

You're spot on, regardless of the weight there is no need to drop them.

Out of curiosity Mark, what do you do when you do a bench press to failure, do you need to drop that as well?
R8Steve you're being a bit unfair: as mentioned, with many exercises it is not possible to lower the weight carefully and considerately to the floor. It's simply not. I always try to be considerate of others, but the simple fact is with many movements (particularly compound movements) when training at near-limit percentages, the human body is stronger concentrically. Hence the numerous replies to you citing examples. But it's also quite clear you don't train at a gym where this kind of training is accepted. See my post at end of p3. It depends on context.

And I'm not judging Mark's dropping his 60kg DBs, just ribbing him for posting in the way he did. Personally I'll always try to lower a weight under control unless it's not possible to do so. This can be for technical reasons, or for prevention of injury. As for what happens when benching to failure, you either have spotters, or bench in the rack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzzkGU5hGA

"...if your gym doesn't have a power rack, your gym sucks" hehe

Grammar again.



Edited by MurderousCrow on Wednesday 22 July 15:55

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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MurderousCrow said:
R8Steve said:
You got a dislocated shoulder cos you don't drop the weights brah wink

You're spot on, regardless of the weight there is no need to drop them.

Out of curiosity Mark, what do you do when you do a bench press to failure, do you need to drop that as well?
R8Steve you're being a bit unfair: as mentioned, with many exercises it is not possible to lower the weight carefully and considerately to the floor. It's simply not. I always try to be considerate of others, but the simple fact is with many movements (particularly compound movements) when training at near-limit percentages, the human body is stronger concentrically. Hence the numerous replies to you citing examples. But it's also quite clear you don't train at a gym where this kind of training is accepted. See my post at end of p3. It depends on context.

And I'm not judging Mark's dropping his 60kg DBs, just ribbing him for posting in the way he did. Personally I'll always try to lower a weight under control unless it's not possible to do so. This can be for technical reasons, or for prevention of injury. As for what happens when benching to failure, you either have spotters, or bench in the rack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzzkGU5hGA

"...if your gym doesn't have a power rack, your gym sucks" hehe

Grammar again.



Edited by MurderousCrow on Wednesday 22 July 15:55
People hate people who do bench presses in the rack. I'll do it when the gym's empty, but not otherwise.

MurderousCrow

392 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Zod said:
People hate people who do bench presses in the rack. I'll do it when the gym's empty, but not otherwise.
In which case you have a number of options:

- look outward during rest, pick up eye contact and offer folk to work in with you. I did this for months and never had any issues (apart from that *one* guy smile)
- find a gym that has more than one power rack
- invest in your own home facility if possible to do so
- develop a thicker skin

I've done all four. If people want to be a dick even after being offered to work in, the problem is with them, not you.

Edited by MurderousCrow on Wednesday 22 July 16:48

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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The deadlift is a powerlift, one is not allowed to drop the deadlift, that means disqualification.
Not to say that dropping does not have it's place in one's training repertoire. But if one is dropping cast iron plates on a hard floor for no real reason, you're a dick.

MurderousCrow

392 posts

151 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Halb said:
The deadlift is a powerlift, one is not allowed to drop the deadlift, that means disqualification.
Not to say that dropping does not have it's place in one's training repertoire. But if one is dropping cast iron plates on a hard floor for no real reason, you're a dick.
Read the thread. No-one is talking about dropping iron plates onto a hard floor. Iron plates may be safely used (including lowering quickly) onto a rubber floor.

Eleiko website, powerlifting plates (iron):

'To be dropped on protected floor, recommended Eleiko Platform.'

http://www.eleikosport.se/en/0/product.aspx?ac=300...

IPF rulebook on the deadlift:

'Causes for Disqualification of a Deadlift:

7. Allowing the bar to return to the platform without maintaining control with both hands, i.e.: releasing the bar from the
palms of the hand.'

You're quite right. It ain't dropped, at least not for competition. People may choose to drop it in training (haven't come across this practice, but can understand the reasoning):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktDvrxWJzi0

'maintaining control with both hands'



DUMBO100

1,878 posts

185 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I'm not too fussed if people drop their weights or not but the guys that drop their guts while lifting upset me. I can't train hard when I'm trying not puke because of their pungent, protein enhanced aromas

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

185 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I'm not too fussed if people drop their weights or not but the guys that drop their guts while lifting upset me. I can't train hard when I'm trying not puke because of their pungent, protein enhanced aromas