Can you be fat & fit?

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272BHP

5,033 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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I say no as well.

From Wikipedia this is a generally accepted definition of physical fitness.

Physical fitness is now considered a measure of the body's ability to function efficiently and effectively in work and leisure activities, to be healthy, to resist hypokinetic diseases, and to meet emergency situations

The key word here is 'efficiently'. Carrying excess blubber is counter-productive in most pursuits
although there are of course exceptions.




Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.

Otispunkmeyer

12,580 posts

155 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Yes you can. I know a guy who is a great swimmer. He was awesome when younger, but is now a coach and has done a lot of beer and pie training. He still swims though and can still bosh out a sub 1.10 100 breaststroke (which is pretty quick!). See plenty of hefty guys cycling round here as well, they don't half go well though.

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Art0ir said:
Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.
Does "aesthetic shape" mean much though?

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
See plenty of hefty guys cycling round here as well, they don't half go well though.
On the flat, definitely.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Art0ir said:
Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.
Does "aesthetic shape" mean much though?
Not to me. Still racing and sometimes winning distance races at age 39 is what counts for me (carefully selected races of course winkwhistlehehe)

Dr Murdoch

3,441 posts

135 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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MC Bodge said:
On the flat, definitely.
And down hill biggrin

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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ewenm said:
MC Bodge said:
Art0ir said:
Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.
Does "aesthetic shape" mean much though?
Not to me. Still racing and sometimes winning distance races at age 39 is what counts for me (carefully selected races of course winkwhistlehehe)
...But, more importantly, are you able to take good selfies of your best muscles?

I bet they don't even have mirrors to check yourself out in on your race courses....

throt

3,054 posts

170 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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You can still have good stamina at the same time as being over weight. Over weight and "fit", thats a different story. imo.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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MC Bodge said:
...But, more importantly, are you able to take good selfies of your best muscles?

I bet they don't even have mirrors to check yourself out in on your race courses....
So that's why they have race photographers!

CubanPete

3,630 posts

188 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Friend of a friend, 50 year old lady, not sure what she weighs, but certainly not slim, competes competitively in sportives, triathlon, and full ironman!


Mike29

822 posts

111 months

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Mike29 said:
Presumably the women in this scientifically rigorous and accurately reported study didn't want men who were slimmer/fitter than themselves, which is probably fairly normal. The typical British woman also being fairly "chunky" nowadays.


DukeDickson

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4,721 posts

213 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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CubanPete said:
Friend of a friend, 50 year old lady, not sure what she weighs, but certainly not slim, competes competitively in sportives, triathlon, and full ironman!
There are indeed some less than picture model people who do that kind of thing, but could they and she do it day after day while carrying 50-60kg? Come rain or shine?

I suspect that even those at the higher end of Ironman finishers would find that hard to do over extended periods.

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Carting around excessive weight, fat or muscle, does not contribute to being "fit". Being "fit" is being capable of carrying out various physical tasks and being able to respond to challenges and situations. Some activities have a fairly narrow range of required skills/abilities, but that is arguably not "fit". Looking aesthetic isn't really a part of fitness, but it might be a side effect, depending what your idea of aesthetic beauty is.

davhill

5,263 posts

184 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Some interesting facts here...

http://www.dead-interesting.com/daniel.html

Look particularly at the beginning of 'Medical Musings'. The man under discussion weighed more than 50 stone at the time.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Art0ir said:
Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.
Does "aesthetic shape" mean much though?
Not necessarily, but it links in with the subject. To look at the average long distance runner vs a sprinter for example, 99.9999% of the population would assume the sprinter is fitter (in aerobic terms) when the opposite is true.

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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throt said:
You can still have good stamina at the same time as being over weight. Over weight and "fit", thats a different story. imo.
Agree.

A big bloke may be able to jog far but his heart and joints won't like it.

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Art0ir said:
MC Bodge said:
Art0ir said:
Rugby players also carry a lot less fat as a %. Interestingly, long distance runners are in pretty poor shape (aesthetically) when compared to sprinters and the likes.
Does "aesthetic shape" mean much though?
Not necessarily, but it links in with the subject. To look at the average long distance runner vs a sprinter for example, 99.9999% of the population would assume the sprinter is fitter (in aerobic terms) when the opposite is true.
Eh?

ruggedscotty

5,625 posts

209 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Generally no you cant be fat and fit (healthy) excess fat is bad for you and it causes issues - to think you are fit and fat you miss the point and you endanger your life. your weight should be in proportion to your body - not excessive but then again you dont need to be a rake....