Creatine

[anonymous-user]

Simple question.
I take 3 creatine pills before and after working out but at the moment I am also taking a weight gainer which I noticed has creatine in it. http://uk.usn-sport.com/en/muscle-fuel-anabolic this one.

Should I stop taking the pills whilst on the drink?

[LordGrover]

Creatine is in meat and fish.

[944fan]

Have to eat a lot of meat to get enough creatine for beneficial impact on weight lifting

Ditch the weight gainer. They are usually ste and full of sugar and crap. Use a pure whey shake if you really need a lot of protein and eat more proper food.

At the very least make your own shake with protein powder, milled oats, creatine some flax oil maybe.

[anonymous-user]

944fan said:

Have to eat a lot of meat to get enough creatine for beneficial impact on weight lifting

Ditch the weight gainer. They are usually ste and full of sugar and crap. Use a pure whey shake if you really need a lot of protein and eat more proper food.

At the very least make your own shake with protein powder, milled oats, creatine some flax oil maybe.

I eat stupid amounts of food. Mostly clean. I am a very hard gainer (size anyway, definiton isn't a problem).

[TurboHatchback]

944fan said:

Have to eat a lot of meat to get enough creatine for beneficial impact on weight lifting

Ditch the weight gainer. They are usually ste and full of sugar and crap. Use a pure whey shake if you really need a lot of protein and eat more proper food.

At the very least make your own shake with protein powder, milled oats, creatine some flax oil maybe.

+1

I'm not against using supplements but the clue as to how to use them is in the name. 'Weight gainers' are food replacements with supplements in them, I would strongly recommend eating actual food instead and taking creatine as a supplement and protein if you can't get enough regularly through food.

I am also what would be called a 'hard-gainer', i.e. tall, skinny and able to eat like a horse without getting fat. The answer for putting on muscle is skip the cardio, the machine isolation exercises and the dumbbell curls and instead stick to heavy compound free weights and bodyweight exercises whilst eating for Britain. If you're not getting fat then you're not eating too much, if you're not putting on muscle (while working out correctly) then you're not eating enough.

[ColdoRS]

Just make up your own shake.

Use creatine mono, add a couple of scoops pre and post workout.

[AngryPartsBloke]

GravelMachineGun said:

I eat stupid amounts of food. Mostly clean. I am a very hard gainer (size anyway, definiton isn't a problem).

You simply aren't eating enough carbs. What's you meal structure like? I'm 6ft 4 and 92KG, if i want to bulk, every way of calculating macros under the sun puts me at over 400G of carbs per day.

Sometimes people don't truly understand how much food they really need to gain, i didn't either until i did GOMAD

[anonymous-user]

AngryPartsBloke said:

GravelMachineGun said:

I eat stupid amounts of food. Mostly clean. I am a very hard gainer (size anyway, definiton isn't a problem).

You simply aren't eating enough carbs. What's you meal structure like? I'm 6ft 4 and 92KG, if i want to bulk, every way of calculating macros under the sun puts me at over 400G of carbs per day.

Sometimes people don't truly understand how much food they really need to gain, i didn't either until i did GOMAD

About as much as I can eat without feeling sick.
Last night I had two very large chicken breasts in a sweet chilli sauce and one and a half large sweet potatoes. Couldn't have eaten more if I tried.

[KamSandhu44]

GravelMachineGun said:

About as much as I can eat without feeling sick.
Last night I had two very large chicken breasts in a sweet chilli sauce and one and a half large sweet potatoes. Couldn't have eaten more if I tried.

If you need to make up more carbs, eat things like ice cream. High calorie content, I see a lot of body builders eat it to fill their carb macro's.

[anonymous-user]

KamSandhu44 said:

If you need to make up more carbs, eat things like ice cream. High calorie content, I see a lot of body builders eat it to fill their carb macro's.

Doesn't ice cream have a high sugar content or am I mistaken?

[TurboHatchback]

As an example I am 6'4" and 93kg (ish) and a typical days eating for me might be:

Breakfast - Porridge:
140g Oats (508kcal)
700ml Skimmed milk (252kcal)
100g Raisins (293kcal)


Lunch:
4 Boiled eggs (572kcal)
3 wholemeal pitta breads (462kcal)

Dinner:
325g Chicken breast (458kcal)
An onion, a pepper, babycorn, asparagus, mushrooms etc (some calories)
Pack of wraps or 2 portions of egg noodles (450-1500 calories)
~50ml Rapeseed oil (400kcal, damn that's a lot!)

Evening snack:
300g Fage/Skyr yogurt (~200kcal)
25g Vanilla whey protein
Raisins/Strawberries/other fruit


Also throughout the day I'll usually have several portions of fruit. All in all it probably adds up to 4500kcal+ per day and a fair old bit of protein. I'd recommend tracking absolutely everything you eat for a few days and totting it up to see what it really looks like, it sounds to me like you're simply not eating enough.

I'd steer clear of ice cream myself, sugar is not a good way to ingest calories though fat is not the evil that many make it out to be.