Anxiety the return
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You probably know this but your anxiety is about not being in control.
Your car thing, not in control, work similar I suspect. You will feel better as and when you have manoeuvred yourself.
It's like the frustration you experience when someone doesn't return your call. It's only a little thing but control has been taken away from you.
Your car thing, not in control, work similar I suspect. You will feel better as and when you have manoeuvred yourself.
It's like the frustration you experience when someone doesn't return your call. It's only a little thing but control has been taken away from you.
How's everyone doing? I finished my counselling. I have also quit the grog for good and really got back into my training. Feel a lot better. There was a point not long ago where I actually felt happy, first time in a long time.
Still have difficult patches and periods of anxiety that hit, but mostly I don't carry them with me after the event. Still have bad Sunday even blues but I guess a lot of people do.
Have really started to keep work at arms length also. My blackberry sits in a drawer at home with a flat battery and has been there for months. I just don't check it anymore.
Had an interesting trip to the doctors though. I had been exploring whether low testosterone was contributing to my anxiety. The first dr was quite dismissive and I was given testogel for a couple of months. I went back after finishing that and saw a great Dr. She did another test and also said that there are two other hormones that should be tested as these are what tell the body to make T.
She said that if they are low she will refer me to an endocrynologist (sp?). Anyway I expected my T to have improved having lost weight and stopped drinking. T is out side the normal range again and something called LH serum level was very low. Apparently this is what tells the body to produce T and because its so low my body doesn't produce enough. Dr has referred me straight to the specialist.
Still not sure what I should I do about my job long term. It doesn't make me happy but I am not sure if changing jobs would make any difference or not. Things have changed here recently and it is a bit better
Still have difficult patches and periods of anxiety that hit, but mostly I don't carry them with me after the event. Still have bad Sunday even blues but I guess a lot of people do.
Have really started to keep work at arms length also. My blackberry sits in a drawer at home with a flat battery and has been there for months. I just don't check it anymore.
Had an interesting trip to the doctors though. I had been exploring whether low testosterone was contributing to my anxiety. The first dr was quite dismissive and I was given testogel for a couple of months. I went back after finishing that and saw a great Dr. She did another test and also said that there are two other hormones that should be tested as these are what tell the body to make T.
She said that if they are low she will refer me to an endocrynologist (sp?). Anyway I expected my T to have improved having lost weight and stopped drinking. T is out side the normal range again and something called LH serum level was very low. Apparently this is what tells the body to produce T and because its so low my body doesn't produce enough. Dr has referred me straight to the specialist.
Still not sure what I should I do about my job long term. It doesn't make me happy but I am not sure if changing jobs would make any difference or not. Things have changed here recently and it is a bit better
It's encouraging to read your Dr is listening and willing to look at alternatives. Sometimes GPs are quick to issue a scrip and think they've solved the problem, but the meds only mask the underlying issue. I have that now for something completely unrelated.....only been taking meds for 6 years, and they're wrong! Ho, hum....only had to have a hospital visit and a camera up my bum to find out! 
I'd been seeing a psychologist a couple of times a month to have someone who's not emotionally involved to talk through some issues, which helped.
Work for me has been truly mental. But, my boss has been brilliant. I've other stuff going on in my personal life (rift with my Dad, 1 daughter with teen angst...) and very tough business targets for 2016. My boss organised with HR for them to get a coach in to help me through stuff, and once I'd taken the Hogan personality analysis tests, they agreed to pay for it, to the tune of €300/hour! That starts this week.
One big thing I realised was how quick and snappy my temper can be. I get that from my Dad, I'm afraid. I really try to keep it cool now, at home too, and it's been noticed, positively.
I've been running evenings and weekends, to switch off from work, and have completed C25K. I'm about to up the ante and start 10K training. I'm enjoying the running, oddly!
Things to look forward to: Spa WEC this weekend, Dublin business trip in a week, for a week (I've loads of mates there), 34 days to Le Mans, summer holidays are booked, etc.
I just keep plugging away. "Onwards and upwards, McDuff."
Coaching will be interesting.
I'd been seeing a psychologist a couple of times a month to have someone who's not emotionally involved to talk through some issues, which helped.
Work for me has been truly mental. But, my boss has been brilliant. I've other stuff going on in my personal life (rift with my Dad, 1 daughter with teen angst...) and very tough business targets for 2016. My boss organised with HR for them to get a coach in to help me through stuff, and once I'd taken the Hogan personality analysis tests, they agreed to pay for it, to the tune of €300/hour! That starts this week.
One big thing I realised was how quick and snappy my temper can be. I get that from my Dad, I'm afraid. I really try to keep it cool now, at home too, and it's been noticed, positively.
I've been running evenings and weekends, to switch off from work, and have completed C25K. I'm about to up the ante and start 10K training. I'm enjoying the running, oddly!
Things to look forward to: Spa WEC this weekend, Dublin business trip in a week, for a week (I've loads of mates there), 34 days to Le Mans, summer holidays are booked, etc.
I just keep plugging away. "Onwards and upwards, McDuff."
Coaching will be interesting.
Been to see the docs for the second time in two months today. Signed off work for two weeks as the dark cloud has descended on me again. He offered tablets, but I refused. My problems emanate from my job and I'm trying to find something different. Until then, I'm really struggling with anxiety, mood swings, headaches, mouth ulcers, tiredness and a general feeling of unhappiness. All brought on by my workplace. Crazy when you think about it.
I am very lucky in that I have a supportive family. Being the sole wage earner in the house makes this time difficult, but I'm sure I can get out of the rut.
Oh yes, due to get back on the bike over the next few days. Think it will do me the world of good.
I am very lucky in that I have a supportive family. Being the sole wage earner in the house makes this time difficult, but I'm sure I can get out of the rut.
Oh yes, due to get back on the bike over the next few days. Think it will do me the world of good.
There's 2 parts to it, and you need to be able to distinguish them.
One part is work, or the environment you're in. The other is your reaction to your environment. It's going to be a more positive reaction to a better environment, so looking for another job is a great shout. But the real one to make a note of, explore, look up it's skirt or other similar expressions is your reaction. That's the one to be more aware of, because it's one you have more control over.
I've mentioned on here before about acceptance and commitment therapy. It basically got me back to work. Not a bad job or a good job, I mean actually going to work. Bad or good were my interpretations of the environment and it took me AGES to see that. I just thought it was a good job working for a d
head but it wasnt healthy for me. Maybe you'll be able to deal with things differently if you look at them for what they are and look at your reaction for what that is
One part is work, or the environment you're in. The other is your reaction to your environment. It's going to be a more positive reaction to a better environment, so looking for another job is a great shout. But the real one to make a note of, explore, look up it's skirt or other similar expressions is your reaction. That's the one to be more aware of, because it's one you have more control over.
I've mentioned on here before about acceptance and commitment therapy. It basically got me back to work. Not a bad job or a good job, I mean actually going to work. Bad or good were my interpretations of the environment and it took me AGES to see that. I just thought it was a good job working for a d
head but it wasnt healthy for me. Maybe you'll be able to deal with things differently if you look at them for what they are and look at your reaction for what that isThanks Andy.
I shall indeed look into that. You have given me some great advice on the other thread I started, and you continue on here.
Thinking about it, it's very true. I guess how you react defines how you cope with things. Some people shrug things off, some people get eaten away by things.
I shall indeed look into that. You have given me some great advice on the other thread I started, and you continue on here.
Thinking about it, it's very true. I guess how you react defines how you cope with things. Some people shrug things off, some people get eaten away by things.
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Thanks Andy.
I shall indeed look into that. You have given me some great advice on the other thread I started, and you continue on here.
Thinking about it, it's very true. I guess how you react defines how you cope with things. Some people shrug things off, some people get eaten away by things.
Absolutely. I am definitely one who gets eaten away by things. Little things build for me, an unhappy client here, missed deadline etc. They build and they build like the death of a thousand cuts.I shall indeed look into that. You have given me some great advice on the other thread I started, and you continue on here.
Thinking about it, it's very true. I guess how you react defines how you cope with things. Some people shrug things off, some people get eaten away by things.
As andy says you can learn to handle thing differently and/or you can remove the stressors. Sometimes there is no hope for a job and you have to leave. I have made the mistake in the past of being so keen to get away from a job that I have jumped from the frying pan into the fire. Learning to handle it differently is more a longer term goal but ultimately one that will have the biggest impact.
For me a lot of it is learning to give less of a s
t about what people think. Its all my parents fault as they were too critical and I am always trying to please.944fan said:
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For me a lot of it is learning to give less of a st about what people think. Its all my parents fault as they were too critical and I am always trying to please.
Just coming back to this now... THIS ^^^ is almost the same for me, too. My Dad NEVER gave praise or positive comments on ANYTHING, and it ate at me, without me even realising it. A lot of my mannerisms and reactions are what I learned from him, "genetics, innit", and I try my utmost NOT to act in that way now. I'm aware when I'm about to, and now change my (re)actions accordingly.For me a lot of it is learning to give less of a s
t about what people think. Its all my parents fault as they were too critical and I am always trying to please.How are you doing now?
I saw you're doing a 1/2 ironman in another thread!!
Great stuff, mate, seriously - you're A LONG WAY ahead of me!
I started C25K at the beginning of the year, mostly to give me something else other than work to think about. I can run 5km in 28-29 mins now, and have pushed on to my 10km training, hitting 9.25km (before I had to give up!) at the weekend (55 mins). I'll go out running again tonight and my target is to hit 10km in <60mins.
I've also been having personal coaching at work, psychological, management development, etc., and it's helped me a LOT. The coach is a lovely lady, who gives a huge amount of practical advice, and we work through real life examples of situations, how I handled it, and then we analyse that and set goals for our next meeting, usually the following week. Considering how emotional I was when I first met her, I've certainly come a long way in the last 8 hours (4 meetings) we've worked together!
Anyway, I'd love to hear about your 1/2 ironman, please?!
Yeah not been bad. I have an appointment with the endocrinologist next week. I am taking testosterone gel daily and it does seem to be helping with the mood etc.
Work has been less stressful but there have been a few things that have annoyed me but not really made me anxious. I think a lot of anxiety before was because I wasn't getting my own way and I need to be a bit more zen about things.
The coaching you are getting sounds good. I still think I could do with something like that. I saw a counselor but that was all about exploring your feelings and understanding why you think like that but there was nothing in terms of how to change behavior.
I have been working more on standing up for myself and not saying yes to impress but saying either no or not but.. up front so I am not taking on extra burden.
I decided to get back into exercise and thought I would do something to push myself. I have done some triathlons a couple of years ago and last year did a lot of swimming. I got a training plan from a coach and have been going for it. Been good to focus on something else and its been a good way of burning up some anxious energy. Its this Sunday. Feeling pretty good about it, despite some last minute problems with tiredness and bike issues.
I will let you know how it goes.
Work has been less stressful but there have been a few things that have annoyed me but not really made me anxious. I think a lot of anxiety before was because I wasn't getting my own way and I need to be a bit more zen about things.
The coaching you are getting sounds good. I still think I could do with something like that. I saw a counselor but that was all about exploring your feelings and understanding why you think like that but there was nothing in terms of how to change behavior.
I have been working more on standing up for myself and not saying yes to impress but saying either no or not but.. up front so I am not taking on extra burden.
I decided to get back into exercise and thought I would do something to push myself. I have done some triathlons a couple of years ago and last year did a lot of swimming. I got a training plan from a coach and have been going for it. Been good to focus on something else and its been a good way of burning up some anxious energy. Its this Sunday. Feeling pretty good about it, despite some last minute problems with tiredness and bike issues.
I will let you know how it goes.
Thanks for the update, and good luck for this weekend!
I'll stick to my running, cycling and swimming training, but not all at the same time.
(Just been to my GP on an unrelated matter and he said how well I looked, especially considering where I was at the end of last year/early this year, which is good.)
I'll stick to my running, cycling and swimming training, but not all at the same time.
(Just been to my GP on an unrelated matter and he said how well I looked, especially considering where I was at the end of last year/early this year, which is good.)
Saw the endocrinologist. Had to have my bks examined by a female dr, worse they had a string of beads which were used to gauge knacker size. That was fun.
Anyway, apparently my body did produce enough T for me to go through puberty properly, but there are some warning signs. I am 6'5'' and I kept growing when everyone stopped and that can be a sign a of low T.
The good news is she thinks that the levels of T are too low for someone my age and that it need investigating. The bad news is they want a base line test done which means stopping the T gel I have been taking which had been making me feel better. Got to go for 6 weeks with none then have a load of blood tests. Been off it a week and already feel st.
Sounds like I may have to take the T permanently but they want to be sure as that can have side effects.
Going to have to make a real effort to keep my mood up and not get dragged down.
ks examined by a female dr, worse they had a string of beads which were used to gauge knacker size. That was fun.Anyway, apparently my body did produce enough T for me to go through puberty properly, but there are some warning signs. I am 6'5'' and I kept growing when everyone stopped and that can be a sign a of low T.
The good news is she thinks that the levels of T are too low for someone my age and that it need investigating. The bad news is they want a base line test done which means stopping the T gel I have been taking which had been making me feel better. Got to go for 6 weeks with none then have a load of blood tests. Been off it a week and already feel s
t.Sounds like I may have to take the T permanently but they want to be sure as that can have side effects.
Going to have to make a real effort to keep my mood up and not get dragged down.
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