Why am I putting on weight - Help

Why am I putting on weight - Help

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popeyewhite

19,853 posts

120 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Joey Ramone said:
What's not so simple is that I exercise far, far more now than I did in my 30's, and eat more healthily.
You don't eat more healthily, you eat too much. You may exercise more, but the exercise you do will not promote a great deal of weightloss.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Silver993tt said:
FredClogs said:
This is a bit obvious an obvious statement but muscle is heavier that fat
Really? I thought 1kg of fat is the same as 1kg of muscle.
No, he's right, muscle is heavier than fat. And 1kg of anything is the same as 1kg of anything else, obviously. The two statements, however, mean two different things.
Muscle is NOT heavier than fat. Everything weighs the same for a kg of anything. 1Kg of air weighs the same as 1kg of muscle. As a previous poster said, muscle is more dense than fat, so for a given volume it weighs more than fat.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
Muscle is NOT heavier than fat. Everything weighs the same for a kg of anything. 1Kg of air weighs the same as 1kg of muscle. As a previous poster said, muscle is more dense than fat, so for a given volume it weighs more than fat.
So, in conclusion, or to put simply, muscle is heavier than fat? wink

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
Silver993tt said:
Muscle is NOT heavier than fat. Everything weighs the same for a kg of anything. 1Kg of air weighs the same as 1kg of muscle. As a previous poster said, muscle is more dense than fat, so for a given volume it weighs more than fat.
So, in conclusion, or to put simply, muscle is heavier than fat? wink
for a given volume yes but without taking into account volume is weighs the same smile

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
for a given volume yes but without taking into account volume is weighs the same smile
rofl for a given volume most things have a different weight due to density changes.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
Silver993tt said:
for a given volume yes but without taking into account volume is weighs the same smile
rofl for a given volume most things have a different weight due to density changes.
That's what I was trying to get across to the OP smile

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Granfondo said:
What is in diet drinks that puts on weight?
No idea. They're a poor choice for many reasons, the main one being artificial sweeteners can fool the body into triggering insulin.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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LordGrover said:
Granfondo said:
What is in diet drinks that puts on weight?
No idea. They're a poor choice for many reasons, the main one being artificial sweeteners can fool the body into triggering insulin.
I don't think that is correct!
Insulin is produced when glucose is in the blood stream.
The many additives may be crap but weight gain is not a side affect of diet drinks due to them having no calories but the sweet taste may make you want to eat other sweet stuff that does have sugar in them.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Granfondo said:
I don't think that is correct!
Insulin is produced when glucose is in the blood stream.
The many additives may be crap but weight gain is not a side affect of diet drinks due to them having no calories but the sweet taste may make you want to eat other sweet stuff that does have sugar in them.
I've seen several studies and articles saying otherwise. E.g. click.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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LordGrover said:
Granfondo said:
I don't think that is correct!
Insulin is produced when glucose is in the blood stream.
The many additives may be crap but weight gain is not a side affect of diet drinks due to them having no calories but the sweet taste may make you want to eat other sweet stuff that does have sugar in them.
I've seen several studies and articles saying otherwise. E.g. click.
Plenty other studies state otherwise but my diabetic daughter has never been told not to drink diet drinks but is told to watch out for orange juice and the like!
But if you want to live healthier water is good.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Granfondo said:
Plenty other studies state otherwise but my diabetic daughter has never been told not to drink diet drinks but is told to watch out for orange juice and the like!
But if you want to live healthier water is good.
But while there are conflicting studies both for and against, surely the best action is to err on the side of caution, and avoid the crap as much as possible?

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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chris watton said:
But while there are conflicting studies both for and against, surely the best action is to err on the side of caution, and avoid the crap as much as possible?
I wouldn't go that far. Everything in moderation.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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LordGrover said:
Granfondo said:
What is in diet drinks that puts on weight?
No idea. They're a poor choice for many reasons, the main one being artificial sweeteners can fool the body into triggering insulin.
They increase appetite.

popeyewhite

19,853 posts

120 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Silver993tt said:
for a given volume yes but without taking into account volume is weighs the same smile
rofl for a given volume most things have a different weight due to density changes.
That's what I was trying to get across to the OP smile
You could have just said 'muscle weighs more than fat'. wink

How about adipose tissue weighs less than lean tissue? Do these odd semantics appeal?


FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Silver993tt said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Silver993tt said:
for a given volume yes but without taking into account volume is weighs the same smile
rofl for a given volume most things have a different weight due to density changes.
That's what I was trying to get across to the OP smile
You could have just said 'muscle weighs more than fat'. wink

How about adipose tissue weighs less than lean tissue? Do these odd semantics appeal?
Guys, I was just saying...

popeyewhite

19,853 posts

120 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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FredClogs said:
Guys, I was just saying...
I've quoted you at the bottom of the previous page.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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It really doesn't need correcting. The statement may not make sense but everyone knows what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat". Even a pedantic prick like me lets it go.

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Granfondo said:
LordGrover said:
To the advocates of MFP and other such calorie counting twaddle, it's not quite so simple.
For a layman's guide, the BBC's TMIaD covered this recently: click. The idea that (k)calorie in = (k)calorie out is unreliable at best.

Exercise helps with respect to body composition, though it is (directly) more effective for cardiovascular health. Excess fat is down to excess consumption, but determining what your body determines to be excess is the trick.

There is no one-size-fits-all 'answer', but eating processed foods, junk and alcohol are clearly less than optimal. From the OP cereals, bread, crackers, (diet) coke, etc are all poor choices and removal will improve outcome.
What is in diet drinks that puts on weight?
increased water retention!

otolith

56,080 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I think you have to be careful about the diet drinks thing - the mechanism by which they may cause a problem appears to be increased hunger - but if you are tracking and controlling what you eat, that's not going to be a problem. There are better things to drink than diet sodas, but I'm not convinced those better things include full sugar sodas.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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otolith said:
I think you have to be careful about the diet drinks thing - the mechanism by which they may cause a problem appears to be increased hunger - but if you are tracking and controlling what you eat, that's not going to be a problem. There are better things to drink than diet sodas, but I'm not convinced those better things include full sugar sodas.
Or fruit juice, smoothies which are being pushed as healthy options!