Why am I putting on weight - Help

Why am I putting on weight - Help

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popeyewhite

19,782 posts

120 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Hoofy said:
It really doesn't need correcting. The statement may not make sense but everyone knows what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat". Even a pedantic prick like me lets it go.
Oh come on, no one has ever said you were a pedant.

Northbloke

643 posts

219 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Interesting thread and I'm very similar to the OP.

Perception is certainly as I get older I seem to eat less and drink (alcohol) less but still somehow put on weight. Try to keep sporty (golf, badminton, running machine) but yes probably less exercise than when younger.

I'm a different body shape now though, used to be a stick insect (with a small belly!) now I'm much broader shoulders (with a small belly!).

I was 6 ft and 10st6 when I was weighed starting a job age 22, now early 50s weigh 14st6.

Started using MFP though so at least we'll see on that score. Thanks for the tip.

Can't believe orange juice is bad for you, it's good healthy natural stuff isn't it? Doesn't seem to make sense, is it just the latest anti-sugar campaign?

otolith

56,011 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Northbloke said:
Can't believe orange juice is bad for you, it's good healthy natural stuff isn't it? Doesn't seem to make sense, is it just the latest anti-sugar campaign?
It's not bad for you, very little really is, it's just very easy to guzzle an unhealthy amount of it.

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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any non water drink will increase blood volume to help maintain the electrolyte balance...thus even diet drinks will do this. Cut them out and see the weight drop off. Classic ploy of dieting fads is to cut them out and drink gallons of H2O.

Hoofy

76,330 posts

282 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Hoofy said:
It really doesn't need correcting. The statement may not make sense but everyone knows what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat". Even a pedantic prick like me lets it go.
Oh come on, no one has ever said you were a pedant.
You may not have ever said it but you've probably thought it. wink

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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MacGee said:
any non water drink will increase blood volume to help maintain the electrolyte balance...thus even diet drinks will do this. Cut them out and see the weight drop off. Classic ploy of dieting fads is to cut them out and drink gallons of H2O.
Drinking water will also increase your blood volume

http://drbenkim.com/drink-too-much-water-dangerous...


Joey Ramone

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2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Today I changed my routine. Instead of 3 chicken breasts for lunch I had 1 chicken breast, 1/3 cup cooked brown rice and half an avocado.

Two hours later and I'm still not thin. Gutted.

MYOB

4,784 posts

138 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Joey Ramone said:
Today I changed my routine. Instead of 3 chicken breasts for lunch I had 1 chicken breast, 1/3 cup cooked brown rice and half an avocado.

Two hours later and I'm still not thin. Gutted.
Bet you're starving though...

Joey Ramone

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2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Ravenous. My stomach thinks my throat's been cut.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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MacGee said:
any non water drink will increase blood volume to help maintain the electrolyte balance...thus even diet drinks will do this. Cut them out and see the weight drop off. Classic ploy of dieting fads is to cut them out and drink gallons of H2O.
Water retenton is primarily caused by too much sodium (salt) in the diet. Cut right back on salt and water retention will plummet very quickly, in a matter of days.

otolith

56,011 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
Water retenton is primarily caused by too much sodium (salt) in the diet. Cut right back on salt and water retention will plummet very quickly, in a matter of days.
Hence the diet show contestants cheating by artificially inflating their weight with salt for an easy weigh-in with the intention of dropping it all for the next one. Doesn't really matter in the real world, though, unless it's obscuring your actual weight or causing you blood pressure issues.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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otolith said:
Silver993tt said:
Water retenton is primarily caused by too much sodium (salt) in the diet. Cut right back on salt and water retention will plummet very quickly, in a matter of days.
Hence the diet show contestants cheating by artificially inflating their weight with salt for an easy weigh-in with the intention of dropping it all for the next one. Doesn't really matter in the real world, though, unless it's obscuring your actual weight or causing you blood pressure issues.
Well, for some people it does matter in the real world because the eat too much salt in their diets, often hidden, not intentionally added. This shows as excess weight that they can't shift, even with exercise.

popeyewhite

19,782 posts

120 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
ell, for some people it does matter in the real world because the eat too much salt in their diets, often hidden, not intentionally added. This shows as excess weight that they can't shift, even with exercise.
Are you sure about this?

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Silver993tt said:
ell, for some people it does matter in the real world because the eat too much salt in their diets, often hidden, not intentionally added. This shows as excess weight that they can't shift, even with exercise.
Are you sure about this?
They will burn fat/carbs etc and lose that weight depending on the amount of exercise/what they eat of course but if they consume too much sodium, they will retain water, which will of course be seen as part of their weight. This part can easily be shifted by cutting right down on the sodium intake and of course, sticking to the lower levels.

Nightmare

5,185 posts

284 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Joey Ramone said:
In the same way that Billy Vunipola has a different skeleton to AP McCoy? Then yes.
Its interesting you mention one of the best race jockeys to ever live....the exercise he does daily makes yours (no offence intended) irrelevant comparatively.....he has a main meal (one skinless chicken breast and green veg) 4 times a WEEK. Daily he has tea with sugar in it. He has been caught licking the flavouring off crisps! and he still has to sweat weight off for races

The calorie guidelines provided to the world in general are 'hope' by the medical community, and not an accurate representation of what is healthy.

As has been pointed out by a few people....individual biology can play a part....and the calories in vs calories out isn't a straight line correlation. but the general thing is that pretty much everyone eats WAY more than needed; simple as that. (NOT related to official guidelines which again are NOT about health but hope and yes I did work on them)

You feel hungry all the time because your stomach is used to a largish volume of food in one go. 3 chicken breasts in one sitting is a LOT. there are stretch receptors in the stomach which play a part in determining when you feel replete - yours have no chance. You would be far better off eating that meal in 3 lots during the day. The difficult thing for you now is that you've spent 40 years training your body......changing that is hard and miserable.

argh there's just too much small detail around this and how your body responds to different inputs to type it all.

tankslappa

715 posts

206 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
This part can easily be shifted by cutting right down on the sodium intake
Or by actually making sure you are properly hydrated.


Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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tankslappa said:
Silver993tt said:
This part can easily be shifted by cutting right down on the sodium intake
Or by actually making sure you are properly hydrated.
Well, proper hydration is of course important but water retention is another issue separate from proper hydration.

otolith

56,011 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
ell, for some people it does matter in the real world because the eat too much salt in their diets, often hidden, not intentionally added. This shows as excess weight that they can't shift, even with exercise.
If they're not fat and they know it's just water, why do they care?

MYOB

4,784 posts

138 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Joey Ramone said:
Ravenous. My stomach thinks my throat's been cut.
I know the feeling. I eat non stop, been snacking on fruit all afternoon along with a handful of mixed nuts. I only had one egg sandwich for lunch with grapes on the side.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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otolith said:
Silver993tt said:
ell, for some people it does matter in the real world because the eat too much salt in their diets, often hidden, not intentionally added. This shows as excess weight that they can't shift, even with exercise.
If they're not fat and they know it's just water, why do they care?
These people probably don't care but water renetion has no advantages, just extra weight and a probable sign of too much sodium in the diet, which has other health implication such as raised blood pressure. Not being 'fat' in any way doesn't mean a healthy body. Ever seen some alcoholics? Many are very thin because the alcohol (as well as smoking) depletes zinc in the body and zinc gives one appetite. They have a compete nutritional deficit, making them susceptible to all manner of diseases. However, that is an extreme example. Many show no signs of being overweight but aren't necessarily healthy because they don't have a sufficient nutritional intake. Calories are one thing but just as important are vital nutrients which a low calorie diet doesn't necessarily provide on its own.