Chain Smoking Around Baby 9 Hours A Day
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I wonder how long ignorance of their sort will hang around?
I mean what kind of mental state must they be in to justify it? inflict that on any baby let alone a family member. "The fan is on..." Christ unless it's an industrial extractor it won't be doing anything apart from moving fresh smoke around to replace stale smoke..
Step outside FFS...
Whose house is it?
Sadly, you can't choose your family, I'd have no issues disowning either of them for that attitude and it must now result in you finding alternative care...such a shame that the child will be raised by a stranger and not caring family...
I mean what kind of mental state must they be in to justify it? inflict that on any baby let alone a family member. "The fan is on..." Christ unless it's an industrial extractor it won't be doing anything apart from moving fresh smoke around to replace stale smoke..
Step outside FFS...
Whose house is it?
Sadly, you can't choose your family, I'd have no issues disowning either of them for that attitude and it must now result in you finding alternative care...such a shame that the child will be raised by a stranger and not caring family...
Quickmoose said:
Sadly, you can't choose your family, I'd have no issues disowning either of them for that attitude and it must now result in you finding alternative care...such a shame that the child will be raised by a stranger and not caring family...
Very true but OP appears to not have caring family on which he can rely.Chain smoking, confining a 17 month old to a play pen and being looked after by someone who barely moves from sitting down does not equal "they are fantastic at looking after them".
It's absolutely disgusting and I cannot believe you are allowing the situation to continue, subjecting a child to 80+ fags worth of smoke a day is beyond belief.
It's absolutely disgusting and I cannot believe you are allowing the situation to continue, subjecting a child to 80+ fags worth of smoke a day is beyond belief.
Hoofy said:
Hub said:
smokebuster said:
My mother and sister babysit our 17 month old baby during the working week typically 9am until 6pm. During the day they spend 90% of the time in a open plan kitchen/sitting area with the baby playing in a playpen on the floor. My mother... sits at a dining room table for 12+ hours a day
Even taking the smoking aside this doesn't sound great from the description. A 17 month old isn't really a baby - do they interact with the child? Take them out at all? Matt_N said:
Chain smoking, confining a 17 month old to a play pen and being looked after by someone who barely moves from sitting down does not equal "they are fantastic at looking after them".
It's absolutely disgusting and I cannot believe you are allowing the situation to continue, subjecting a child to 80+ fags worth of smoke a day is beyond belief.
I completely agree.It's absolutely disgusting and I cannot believe you are allowing the situation to continue, subjecting a child to 80+ fags worth of smoke a day is beyond belief.
Sorry OP, but you are as bad as they are for letting this happen in the first place.
iphonedyou said:
There's nothing remotely troll like about the OP.
Do people genuinely not bother to attempt to understand that term before parroting it?
I understand the term fully, what I question is the intelligence of someone who needs to ask a public forum the answer to something so blindingly obvious.Do people genuinely not bother to attempt to understand that term before parroting it?
Possibly the worst babysitters around.
I smoke, its a nasty habit, but I go outside to smoke as I have kids. If I had broken legs and was stuck indoors I would still certainly not smoke around my kids.
Your Mum and sister are being s
ts and if your child is 17months old then it needs to be getting out and about a bit and learning things other than how to stick a fag in its mouth.
Either one of you needs to stop work or you need to pay for (prohibitly expensive) childcare and unfortunately make some serious sacrifices in your life as it is very expensive. I wouldnt want to leave the child there for more than a couple of minutes, let alone all day/week/month.
I smoke, its a nasty habit, but I go outside to smoke as I have kids. If I had broken legs and was stuck indoors I would still certainly not smoke around my kids.
Your Mum and sister are being s
ts and if your child is 17months old then it needs to be getting out and about a bit and learning things other than how to stick a fag in its mouth.Either one of you needs to stop work or you need to pay for (prohibitly expensive) childcare and unfortunately make some serious sacrifices in your life as it is very expensive. I wouldnt want to leave the child there for more than a couple of minutes, let alone all day/week/month.
Mr. H said:
Got to agree with every other comment on this. My wife is a nurse in A&E at a children's hospital and she is always mentioning that she has babies and young children in with bronchitis and the parents have no idea what's causing it. In almost every case while the child is being seen the parents will have nipped off for a smoke. She gets pretty annoyed and upset as she can't tell them to stop as that could result in disciplinary action.
I'm sorry but how could it result in disciplinary?Telling parents the dangers of second hand smoking around children in accordance with NHS guidance is not a disciplinary it is also, to the best of my knowledge, part of her job.
If the child should develop a chest infection and need to attend hospital, then there is a distinct possibility that it will become a matter for social services. In some circumstances the child could be put into care because exposure to this amount of smoke is regarded as significant abuse. It beggars belief that the mother and sister smoke so much. Who is paying for the fags? Given their health problems it seems likely that they won't be around for long so the problem will sort itself out.
ocd said:
If the child should develop a chest infection and need to attend hospital, then there is a distinct possibility that it will become a matter for social services. In some circumstances the child could be put into care because exposure to this amount of smoke is regarded as significant abuse. It beggars belief that the mother and sister smoke so much. Who is paying for the fags? Given their health problems it seems likely that they won't be around for long so the problem will sort itself out.
It would be a shame that it takes this much to get the mum and sister to sort their st out.Research a few years back pointed to children who's parents smoke having about a 10% decrease in lung function compared to those who's parents did not smoke.
Also, look at research re the micro particulates generated by the smoke...these are present in the smoking environment and on the smoker long after they have finished the cigarette. You will be bringing these back with you into your home environment - affecting your baby, and you, even after they are removed from the environment.
You must not expose your child to this kind of danger.
Also, look at research re the micro particulates generated by the smoke...these are present in the smoking environment and on the smoker long after they have finished the cigarette. You will be bringing these back with you into your home environment - affecting your baby, and you, even after they are removed from the environment.
You must not expose your child to this kind of danger.
rb5er said:
Possibly the worst babysitters around.
I smoke, its a nasty habit, but I go outside to smoke as I have kids. If I had broken legs and was stuck indoors I would still certainly not smoke around my kids.
Your Mum and sister are being sts and if your child is 17months old then it needs to be getting out and about a bit and learning things other than how to stick a fag in its mouth.
Either one of you needs to stop work or you need to pay for (prohibitly expensive) childcare and unfortunately make some serious sacrifices in your life as it is very expensive. I wouldnt want to leave the child there for more than a couple of minutes, let alone all day/week/month.
Do a bit of research - unless you are changing your clothes and showering before coming back in the house you are still impacting your child's health. I smoke, its a nasty habit, but I go outside to smoke as I have kids. If I had broken legs and was stuck indoors I would still certainly not smoke around my kids.
Your Mum and sister are being s
ts and if your child is 17months old then it needs to be getting out and about a bit and learning things other than how to stick a fag in its mouth.Either one of you needs to stop work or you need to pay for (prohibitly expensive) childcare and unfortunately make some serious sacrifices in your life as it is very expensive. I wouldnt want to leave the child there for more than a couple of minutes, let alone all day/week/month.
Children and babies who live in a home where there is a smoker:
Are more prone to asthma and ear, nose and chest infections. About 17,000 children under 5 years old in England and Wales are admitted to hospital each year due to illnesses caused by their parents' smoking.
Have an increased risk of dying from cot death (sudden infant death syndrome).
Are more likely than average to become smokers themselves when older.
On average, do less well at reading and reasoning skills compared with children in smoke-free homes, even at low levels of smoke exposure.
Are at increased risk of developing COPD and cancer as adults.
Edited by jdw100 on Monday 25th April 04:29
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