Reasonable time to wait for Doctors appointment

Reasonable time to wait for Doctors appointment

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xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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At my GP if you call at 8:30 or 12:30 you can usually get an appointment the same day but with a random doctor.

bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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I rang at 8:30 this morning & got an 11:20 appointment with my own gp.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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bad company said:
I rang at 8:30 this morning & got an 11:20 appointment with my own gp.
Is it coincidental that your own GP is on duty today or is a same day appointment with your own GP part of the practice's service level agreement? If the latter, that's exceptionally good.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Orchid1 said:
944fan said:
I don't disagree per se, but also I have seen some very poor management and appointment arrangements at some GPs. You mention people being seen now for long running symptoms. For quite a while the only way to get an appointment at my GP was to phone on the morning and take an appointment that day. Not really urgent but you had no choice. Now the let you book non urgent appointments a couple of weeks in advance.

More funding is needed, a lot more. I can't imagine why anyone would want to become a Dr these days. Seems like a thankless task and they all seem stressed and stretched when you do see them.
It sounds cruel I know but a lot of the time GP surgeries are just clogged up with older people who demand to be seen straight away and given every antibiotic under the sun because they sneezed a couple of times in a row the previous day.
OH is a receptionist in a largish GP surgery and sadly this is true. There is an annoying sense of entitlement among many of the older generation in particular and they consume a disproportionate amount of GP resources for relatively minor issues. Judging by the system at OH's surgery if you are prepared to see any doctor and can be flexible with your availability they will try and fit you in asap. They keep spare appointments later in the day for "emergencies" and these often don't get used. It also helps, obviously, if you are polite, considerate and, if asked, give them some idea about your problem. So many people are curt and unhelpful when they ring up it's like a breath of fresh air when the staff speak to someone pleasant. In other words charm goes a long way. It shouldn't be this way but that's how it is. You'd be alarmed at the number of people that request home visits because they can't be arsed to walk down to the surgery or ask a neighbour/relative for a lift.


bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Riley Blue said:
bad company said:
I rang at 8:30 this morning & got an 11:20 appointment with my own gp.
Is it coincidental that your own GP is on duty today or is a same day appointment with your own GP part of the practice's service level agreement? If the latter, that's exceptionally good.
I can always get a same day appointment tho my GP only works 3 days per week so I sometimes have to see another doctor.

Derek Smith

45,659 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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944fan said:
I don't disagree per se, but also I have seen some very poor management and appointment arrangements at some GPs. You mention people being seen now for long running symptoms. For quite a while the only way to get an appointment at my GP was to phone on the morning and take an appointment that day. Not really urgent but you had no choice. Now the let you book non urgent appointments a couple of weeks in advance.

More funding is needed, a lot more. I can't imagine why anyone would want to become a Dr these days. Seems like a thankless task and they all seem stressed and stretched when you do see them.
The government, or at least Hunt, last year promised 5000 more doctors by 2020. We are evidently on target, again from the same source. This despite us losing 700 doctors since the current dispute started and reducing the number and funding of courses.

You can tell I was talking to striking doctors, or one anyway, yesterday.

I went to have my annual blood test a few months ago. I was phoned by the doctor the following day and asked if I could come in that afternoon.

It was discovered that I was diabetic, having low blood sugar levels and a cancer marker. During the discussion I mentioned I had had permanent lower back pain for 6 years. I was given another appointment for my back pain. But first there was an MRI scan of my nethers.

I was given amitriptalene, or a drug spelt similarly, which cured the lower back pain within 2 weeks. I felt quite emotional about it. It wasn't particularly fierce pain, but just there all the time. It occasionally stopped me from sleeping but only around once a month on average. It was nearly two months before I didn't feel something was missing.

I was also sent for another MRI scan for sciatica and a lack of reflexes. It seems my problems is progressive. I got an appointment to see a physio to be assessed and am due to go to back classes for six visits. Eventually I might have to have further work.

I've spent over £750 on physios over the years to make things a bit better for a short time. I've also spent £385 on a chiropractor to make the pain worse.

The marker has gone up so I'm going to have another MRI on my bits in the near future. It looks as if I might have to have a needle stuck up my fundament, and I've already been booked in for July. It seems I might have to have things done to my prostrate which might require me turning into a woman via pills.

I've been able to manage my low blood sugar.

I've been stunned by how efficient the NHS has been for me. The doctors have been pleasant, explaining what was happening and holding nothing back. I have been given choices for appointment times. I've never been kept waiting for more than 10 minutes, even when I turned up 30 minutes before my time.

I spoke with a striking doctor en route back from the loo when coming away from my appointment yesterday. Her concern was for the NHS.






Wacky Racer

38,160 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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In the early 1980's you wandered into the doctor's surgery at 9.30, there may have been ten people in front of you, sometimes three, but you never had to wait more than an hour......

meddyg

70 posts

153 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Wacky Racer said:
In the early 1980's you wandered into the doctor's surgery at 9.30, there may have been ten people in front of you, sometimes three, but you never had to wait more than an hour......
Back in the days when GP's would consult in 5 minutes or even less. Can't do that now.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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The GP surgery has an incentive to get a patient seen in reasonable time because if that person presents to A&E instead the surgery can be charged by the hospital.

meddyg

70 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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ChasW said:
The GP surgery has an incentive to get a patient seen in reasonable time because if that person presents to A&E instead the surgery can be charged by the hospital.
Never heard of that, unless it's something local to you. It's not a national scheme.

mike74

3,687 posts

132 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Orchid1 said:
It sounds cruel I know but a lot of the time GP surgeries are just clogged up with older people who demand to be seen straight away and given every antibiotic under the sun because they sneezed a couple of times in a row the previous day.
Exactly this.
It's another symptom (no pun intended) of the wonderfully self obsessed, entitled, foot stamping, tantrum throwing generation that is the baby boomers.
Everyone I know in that age group goes to the docs at the drop of a hat, demanding tests and treatments, almost always their minor ailments are either self-induced or entirely imaginary.

Sticks.

8,750 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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mike74 said:
Exactly this.
It's another symptom (no pun intended) of the wonderfully self obsessed, entitled, foot stamping, tantrum throwing generation that is the baby boomers.
Everyone I know in that age group goes to the docs at the drop of a hat, demanding tests and treatments, almost always their minor ailments are either self-induced or entirely imaginary.
Quite the opposite here. Most of the people I know that age won't go unless nagged to do so. Every time I go it's mostly mothers and their young children (understandably).

My local surgery was mostly locum Drs for quite a while. Phone at 8am and take pot luck. Not good for someone with a chronic condition and in my commuting days I'd have been in London by then.

Now you can book online, which means less available by phone but if you do commute you don't waste half the morning. Almost all same-day only though.


Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I can't say I've seen a lot of boomers clogging up my GP's waiting room and I've been visiting every few weeks in the last couple of years for one thing or another - nothing imaginery either, just cancer, heart and joint problems; the sort of stuff that happens as you grow older. Most of the time when I'm waiting it seems to be an equal mix of young families, elderly couples and single middle age people rather than lots of one group or another.

bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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mike74 said:
Exactly this.
It's another symptom (no pun intended) of the wonderfully self obsessed, entitled, foot stamping, tantrum throwing generation that is the baby boomers.
Everyone I know in that age group goes to the docs at the drop of a hat, demanding tests and treatments, almost always their minor ailments are either self-induced or entirely imaginary.
That's millions & millions of people you have stereotyped in one go.

About as sensible as saying that all Frenchmen eat cheese.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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meddyg said:
ChasW said:
The GP surgery has an incentive to get a patient seen in reasonable time because if that person presents to A&E instead the surgery can be charged by the hospital.
Never heard of that, unless it's something local to you. It's not a national scheme.
Could only apply to our local trust. OH works in the surgery and some patients use it as a veiled threat to jump the queue.

mike74

3,687 posts

132 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bad company said:
That's millions & millions of people you have stereotyped in one go.

About as sensible as saying that all Frenchmen eat cheese.
Can only speak as I find. Every person I know personally who falls into the boomer age group is exactly as I've described (if not worse)

bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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mike74 said:
Can only speak as I find. Every person I know personally who falls into the boomer age group is exactly as I've described (if not worse)
About as sensible as saying that all Audi drivers are wkers.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

laugh

Edited by bad company on Tuesday 3rd May 18:35

mike74

3,687 posts

132 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bad company said:
About as sensible as saying that all Audi drivers are wkers.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I actually said that the vast majority of discourteous wkers on one particular road I use happen to drive Audis, again, only speaking as I find.

(As flattered as I am at having my own personal internet stalker try and get your facts straight first, it makes you look marginally less unintelligent)

bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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mike74 said:
bad company said:
About as sensible as saying that all Audi drivers are wkers.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I actually said that the vast majority of discourteous wkers on one particular road I use happen to drive Audis, again, only speaking as I find.

(As flattered as I am at having my own personal internet stalker try and get your facts straight first, it makes you look marginally less unintelligent)
This is what you said:-

Audi drivers definitely live up to their reputation as the new wkers of the road as far as I'm concerned,

Not stalking mate, just took a moment to look up your previous daft comments. Never mind you clearly know best.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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bad company said:
mike74 said:
Exactly this.
It's another symptom (no pun intended) of the wonderfully self obsessed, entitled, foot stamping, tantrum throwing generation that is the baby boomers.
Everyone I know in that age group goes to the docs at the drop of a hat, demanding tests and treatments, almost always their minor ailments are either self-induced or entirely imaginary.
That's millions & millions of people you have stereotyped in one go.

About as sensible as saying that all Frenchmen eat cheese.
The last three boomers I know who went to their GP came away with cancer... frown