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Du1point8 said:
Why did I only get dihydrocodeine for a shattered leg and dislocated ankle... Think I had oral morphine for 2 days in hospital whilst waiting for the op to put my leg back together, then it was just dihydrocodeine and aspirin... nothing else?
because you had a sensible doctor TBH, if you had been in greater pain they would have expected you to go to your GP who would have prescribed something stronger (although i do know someone who went from dihydrocodeine to fentanyl in one step but i wouldn't consider that a sensible thing to do!)grumpy52 said:
He was on Oramorph at the end of his life which gave him relief from what must have been severe discomfort as his spine and ribs had crumbled away due to that awful thing called cancer .
We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
Sorry, a bit late on this thread. You could have returned the surplus Oramorph to your local pharmacy for disposal.We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
so called said:
Our local hospital loves the stuff.
They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
What are you talking about "Not good for the body" ?They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
Around 90% of it is excreted within 24hrs and it doesn't kill brain cells, damage liver or kidneys.... please enlighten me.
Edit to add the link I forgot
http://www.news-medical.net/health/Morphine-Pharma...
Roscco said:
so called said:
Our local hospital loves the stuff.
They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
What are you talking about "Not good for the body" ?They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
Around 90% of it is excreted within 24hrs and it doesn't kill brain cells, damage liver or kidneys.... please enlighten me.
Edit to add the link I forgot
http://www.news-medical.net/health/Morphine-Pharma...
grumpy52 said:
It's wonderful stuff !
I had a flare up of my gallstones last night and my usual meds of Naproxen and Zapain didn't kill the pain last night .
Over the next few hours the pain got to the level where I could neither sit lay or stand then the room started to tilt it was that much agony .
Called 101 who said it was an emergency and sent a response car with two paramedics .
The release from pain after one syringe full was fantastic, was a bit nauseous from the stuff but another syringe of stuff sorted that .
6 hrs of tests and x rays in A+E later and a dose of Oramorph later and I was good to go home .
Great service from the NHS even if they were very busy in A+E .
Not the best start to a birthday and I cannot drive for 24hrs as I would fail a drugs test .
I was given absolutely nothing to help the pain of gallstones by the NHS, in fact I only ever got to see my GP. I had to wait several months of being referred privately to then having an op to remove the gallbladder to get rid of the pain.I had a flare up of my gallstones last night and my usual meds of Naproxen and Zapain didn't kill the pain last night .
Over the next few hours the pain got to the level where I could neither sit lay or stand then the room started to tilt it was that much agony .
Called 101 who said it was an emergency and sent a response car with two paramedics .
The release from pain after one syringe full was fantastic, was a bit nauseous from the stuff but another syringe of stuff sorted that .
6 hrs of tests and x rays in A+E later and a dose of Oramorph later and I was good to go home .
Great service from the NHS even if they were very busy in A+E .
Not the best start to a birthday and I cannot drive for 24hrs as I would fail a drugs test .
I did however have morphine after a C Section and I had the awful side effect of scratching myself silly. It was great at removing the pain but the scratches to my arms/legs/body from my nails were no fun afterwards
Paul Dishman said:
grumpy52 said:
He was on Oramorph at the end of his life which gave him relief from what must have been severe discomfort as his spine and ribs had crumbled away due to that awful thing called cancer .
We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
Sorry, a bit late on this thread. You could have returned the surplus Oramorph to your local pharmacy for disposal.We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
The amount of un-opened pharmaceutical stuff we had left that was just destroyed must have been worth a fortune.
I had morphing for a burst appendix about 20 years ago. I had one of those PCA devices - an automated syringe that you are allowed to trigger every few minutes. It didn't take me long until I was lying there tapping the button like a demented woodpecker waiting for my next fix. It felt amazing.
Then I started hallucinating - there were naked nurses spinning in the air at 45 degrees with black diamond shape shooting out of them in all directions....
During all this it seemed like my entire extended family turn up all at once and I started to feel panicked. After that I made sure I only pushed the button when I really needed it, but it took some will power - luckily, other than nice coffee and cars, I've not got an addictive personality.
Then I started hallucinating - there were naked nurses spinning in the air at 45 degrees with black diamond shape shooting out of them in all directions....
During all this it seemed like my entire extended family turn up all at once and I started to feel panicked. After that I made sure I only pushed the button when I really needed it, but it took some will power - luckily, other than nice coffee and cars, I've not got an addictive personality.
grumpy52 said:
Our family is going through it at the moment as one of my sisters is in ICU at the moment with Legionelle ,pneumonia and sepsis .
Hope she pulls through grumpy52, I was in ICU earlier this year including pneumonia and sepsis, wonderful care but you don't want to end up there in the first place. Hope she makes a swift recovery.grumpy52 said:
Paul Dishman said:
grumpy52 said:
He was on Oramorph at the end of his life which gave him relief from what must have been severe discomfort as his spine and ribs had crumbled away due to that awful thing called cancer .
We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
Sorry, a bit late on this thread. You could have returned the surplus Oramorph to your local pharmacy for disposal.We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
The amount of un-opened pharmaceutical stuff we had left that was just destroyed must have been worth a fortune.
Of course, once anything goes out the supply chain is broken and has to go in the controlled waste for disposal.
Paul Dishman said:
grumpy52 said:
Paul Dishman said:
grumpy52 said:
He was on Oramorph at the end of his life which gave him relief from what must have been severe discomfort as his spine and ribs had crumbled away due to that awful thing called cancer .
We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
Sorry, a bit late on this thread. You could have returned the surplus Oramorph to your local pharmacy for disposal.We had loads of it left at home when he had passed away and it was a bit of a challenge to dispose of it legally .
We could have made a fair few ££s on the dodgy side with the stuff.
I certainly could have used some last night !
The amount of un-opened pharmaceutical stuff we had left that was just destroyed must have been worth a fortune.
Of course, once anything goes out the supply chain is broken and has to go in the controlled waste for disposal.
We unfortunately had a pharmacy that had staff that left a great deal to be desired.
I now use a different pharmacy that is soooo much better with well trained and efficient customer focused staff .
Silent1 said:
Roscco said:
so called said:
Our local hospital loves the stuff.
They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
What are you talking about "Not good for the body" ?They put my daughter on it for 9 months to "manage the pain" with her gallstones.
Then same again with her dislocated shoulder.
Not good for the body.
Around 90% of it is excreted within 24hrs and it doesn't kill brain cells, damage liver or kidneys.... please enlighten me.
Edit to add the link I forgot
http://www.news-medical.net/health/Morphine-Pharma...
But again sudden death syndrome has been mentioned..... Never heard anyone taken by that either :/
Roscco said:
Having been 'heavily' involved with opiates/opioids for 13+ years I can honestly say that yes I've heard this mentioned, but no its never been a problem I've either experienced nor known anybody else to be affected by.
But again sudden death syndrome has been mentioned..... Never heard anyone taken by that either :/
Have you had your testosterone tested? Of all the males I know taking oxycodone, fentanyl or other opioids in a high dose consistently at least 80% of them when tested had extremely low testosterone, anecdotally a seemingly high proportion also have depression but I don't know if that's the opioids or the long term pain.But again sudden death syndrome has been mentioned..... Never heard anyone taken by that either :/
Overall opioids are not good taken long term (I say this coming from being on fentanyl for nearly a decade), short term they're fine apart from the potential for addiction, long term they can and do have dramatic side effects.
Although ironically I think that people taking opioids for pain long term suffer more problems than recreational users because they are always maintaining a therapeutic dose rather than a recreational dose and then not taking another until they're down to the point withdrawals are imminent, for example oxycodone as a painkiller is only good for 6 hours but for withdrawals it's good for 24 hours.
drivin_me_nuts said:
I had does of this a few days ago. Makes me ill. Or oramorph and me do not get on. I had litres of it at home a while ago along with boxes of fentynl patches.
I was curious to know what a patch would do if you weren't I'll.
Depending on the dose, 12.5mcg/hr in an opioid naive patient would get you absolutely trashed probably to the point of anaesthesia, 100mcg/hr would almost certainly kill you through respiratory depression, 50mcg/hr probably would as well, 25mcg/hr would be close.I was curious to know what a patch would do if you weren't I'll.
The biggest danger with fentanyl patches is addicts 'cheeking' them where instead of wearing it they put it in inside their mouth against their cheek because the saliva in your mouth causes the patch to release all of its 3 day dose in about 4 hours.
This is how addicts usually die, they get hold of them and usually take heroin and aren't used to how fentanyl takes a long time to accumulate and because it's held in fat if you take the patch out when you feel 'good' it's probably too late.
The other issue with cheeking is most fentanyl patches actually contain 144 times their hourly dose so that they give out their full dose for the 72 hours and when exposed to saliva it's not uncommon for all of the fentanyl to leech out.
Ripped my shoulder out of the socket in a bike accident. Ambulance arrives, can't move me as my arm is twisted behind me. Shot of morphine they got me in the ambulance.
Half way to hospital had another shot for the pain.
Arrived at the hospital and had to have another shot. Finally felt pain free.
Had to be put to sleep to have my shoulder put back in.
Then dinner plate sized Co Codamols for 6 weeks.
I don't think I had a coherent conversation for a couple of months!
Half way to hospital had another shot for the pain.
Arrived at the hospital and had to have another shot. Finally felt pain free.
Had to be put to sleep to have my shoulder put back in.
Then dinner plate sized Co Codamols for 6 weeks.
I don't think I had a coherent conversation for a couple of months!
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