Sixpad abs device

[untakenname]

Seen the advert on normal primetime tv which must have cost quite a bit to make, usually these type of devices are advertised late at night near to the smut channels, do these actually work?
Seems a bit gimmicky but if it works it might be worthwhile as it looks like exercise without the effort.

[IrateNinja]

Yeah they work perfectly, so well in fact I used one on my dog and he got ripped in 3 weeks.

[numtumfutunch]

IrateNinja said:

Yeah they work perfectly, so well in fact I used one on my dog and he got ripped in 3 weeks.

Impressive, what kind of dog?

[Kiwi LS2]

Get the body fat down will be key though, need to be circa 11% body fat to see your abs... and that is not easy for most of us. Building ab muscle up when you are a bit podgy (not that I'm saying you are!) will just make things look worse...

[chris watton]

You have to have a low percentage of BF for your abs to show. More than any other muscle group, the best way to get your abs to show is not silly money wasting contraptions for exercising them, but what you do in the kitchen. You use the exercise to get rid of the flab quicker - but if you don't watch what you're eating carefully, it will be all for nothing. If 'sixpack abs' is your main goal.

I have hardly worked them directly since starting diet and training two years ago, yet they are no very visible..

[AmiableChimp]

numtumfutunch said:

IrateNinja said:

Yeah they work perfectly, so well in fact I used one on my dog and he got ripped in 3 weeks.

Impressive, what kind of dog?

A Bullworkerdog?

[lost in espace]

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

[Art0ir]

lost in espace said:

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

You can probably reduce your carbs slightly and still at least maintain your strength.

Or do as the old school bodybuilders did and just add 20 mins cardio to your workout.

[HTP99]

This guy may be able to help!:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[didelydoo]

lost in espace said:

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

Option 1- Keep calories the same, add in cardio. 2) reduce calories 3) reduce calories, add in cardio.

Personally, i'd just work harder in the gym, reduce calories and do cardio- 2 months isn't a long time to change.

[AndStilliRise]

Run, cycle, Run.
Everyday

[RJB_666]

lost in espace said:

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

You could drop a lot in 2 months, although dropping fat at a gradual weight will help you keep more muscle. I would especially recommend using BCAA's whilst dieting to help with this also. Counting macros will help massively to ensure the amount of calories, carbs and fats. One friend recently asked my advice and it turned out he was only eating 80g of protein per day. I'd recommend at least 180-200g per day of protein at 87kg. There is conflicting information though on protein levels. I'd keep fats at 25% of your calories and carbs the rest. Carb timing is important also. So ensure you have a good proportion of your carbs before and after a workout. This is when you'll need and use them most. Carb cycling is probably the quickest way to drop fat, but the low carb days are tiring. Well I struggle with them.

Cardio is important too. When I dieted earlier this year I would do 3 sessions of interval sprints per week. 1 minute sprint and 2 minute walk for 30 minutes. Some people prefer a lower intensity cardio but HIT does raise your metabolism.

[chris watton]

RJB_666 said:

lost in espace said:

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

You could drop a lot in 2 months, although dropping fat at a gradual weight will help you keep more muscle. I would especially recommend using BCAA's whilst dieting to help with this also. Counting macros will help massively to ensure the amount of calories, carbs and fats. One friend recently asked my advice and it turned out he was only eating 80g of protein per day. I'd recommend at least 180-200g per day of protein at 87kg. There is conflicting information though on protein levels. I'd keep fats at 25% of your calories and carbs the rest. Carb timing is important also. So ensure you have a good proportion of your carbs before and after a workout. This is when you'll need and use them most. Carb cycling is probably the quickest way to drop fat, but the low carb days are tiring. Well I struggle with them.

Cardio is important too. When I dieted earlier this year I would do 3 sessions of interval sprints per week. 1 minute sprint and 2 minute walk for 30 minutes. Some people prefer a lower intensity cardio but HIT does raise your metabolism.

I have read that if you're training and on a balanced diet, 1 gram of protein to 1 lb of bodyweight is advised, so if you're 200lbs, then consume 200 grams of protein per day.

However, if you're training and on a calorie deficit, or very low carb diet, then even more protein per day is recommended. I am in this category right now, I am around 160lbs (a smidgen over 70kg) and making sure I am having around 200 grams of protein (including BCAA's) per day.

But I am 49 and my metabolism will not be the same as someone younger, who may need a lot more than me just to carry out daily functions, let alone heavy weight training..

[Foliage]

You know when they do the before and after picks for fitness products, well they take the pictures in reverse, they take the after first, then the 'actor' drinks and eats certain foods and drinks to bloat themselves up, cutting out these products may help, the culprits I know of are, fizzy drinks, crisps etc, carbonated, high sugar, high carb (potatoe, wheat) etc foods also drink plenty of water.

I really need to lose some weight again, just cant seem to get back too it. I was getting towards having abs last year but my face looked awful... Also yes if you have strong/big ab muscles (like me) and aren't thin, it can make you look a bit tubby which is a problem I currently have as I have more belly fat than I would like.

Edited by Foliage on Wednesday 22 June 14:12

[Crush]

My Roo uses one



But to be serious, it is all about body fat percentage and not so much muscle size. It is why you see those scraggy beta male chavs with a six pack but generally it is malnutrition for them.

[RJB_666]

chris watton said:

RJB_666 said:

lost in espace said:

So I am doing 5x5 and making "gains". I suspect if I drop my calories, I won't see any gains. Any tips on losing body fat, whilst lifting so I look less podgy on the beach in 2 months. 87kgs/47yrs.

You could drop a lot in 2 months, although dropping fat at a gradual weight will help you keep more muscle. I would especially recommend using BCAA's whilst dieting to help with this also. Counting macros will help massively to ensure the amount of calories, carbs and fats. One friend recently asked my advice and it turned out he was only eating 80g of protein per day. I'd recommend at least 180-200g per day of protein at 87kg. There is conflicting information though on protein levels. I'd keep fats at 25% of your calories and carbs the rest. Carb timing is important also. So ensure you have a good proportion of your carbs before and after a workout. This is when you'll need and use them most. Carb cycling is probably the quickest way to drop fat, but the low carb days are tiring. Well I struggle with them.

Cardio is important too. When I dieted earlier this year I would do 3 sessions of interval sprints per week. 1 minute sprint and 2 minute walk for 30 minutes. Some people prefer a lower intensity cardio but HIT does raise your metabolism.

I have read that if you're training and on a balanced diet, 1 gram of protein to 1 lb of bodyweight is advised, so if you're 200lbs, then consume 200 grams of protein per day.

However, if you're training and on a calorie deficit, or very low carb diet, then even more protein per day is recommended. I am in this category right now, I am around 160lbs (a smidgen over 70kg) and making sure I am having around 200 grams of protein (including BCAA's) per day.

But I am 49 and my metabolism will not be the same as someone younger, who may need a lot more than me just to carry out daily functions, let alone heavy weight training..

Over the years I have gradually decreased my protein intake. This is only because when I began dieting 2-3 years ago I started with a standard old school 40/40/20 macro split. So was on around 300g protein per day. I weigh around 181 lbs off season and around 164 lbs fully cut down and take in 200g of protein per day. I vary my carbs and fats but always keep my protein the same. I get fed up of hearing new research every 5 minutes so I listen to my own body. If at some point I feel my progress isn't as great I'll up my protein, if I feel I don't need as much I'll reduce it. Everyone is different. A local bodybuilder I know takes 700g of protein per day! But that's a whole different story.

I'd say you're taking roughly the right amount of protein. Any extra and it just won't be used. Although it can be seen as wasted calories. The one thing I'd always say is to keep fats around 25% of calories, 20% absolute minimum. They have a huge effect on hormones.

[Terminator X]

AndStilliRise said:

Run, cycle, Run.
Everyday

WTF are you one of those dole scroungers!

TX.

[chris watton]

RJB_666 said:

Over the years I have gradually decreased my protein intake. This is only because when I began dieting 2-3 years ago I started with a standard old school 40/40/20 macro split. So was on around 300g protein per day. I weigh around 181 lbs off season and around 164 lbs fully cut down and take in 200g of protein per day. I vary my carbs and fats but always keep my protein the same. I get fed up of hearing new research every 5 minutes so I listen to my own body. If at some point I feel my progress isn't as great I'll up my protein, if I feel I don't need as much I'll reduce it. Everyone is different. A local bodybuilder I know takes 700g of protein per day! But that's a whole different story.

I'd say you're taking roughly the right amount of protein. Any extra and it just won't be used. Although it can be seen as wasted calories. The one thing I'd always say is to keep fats around 25% of calories, 20% absolute minimum. They have a huge effect on hormones.

Yeah, I have wound down my training for the past couple of weeks, after a 5 month program that entailed 6 workouts per week. I am now at the lowest weight I have ever been since my teenage years. As I start to ramp up the training intensity again, I shall up the calorie (clean calories) intake accordingly, so that any weight gained is mostly lean muscle mass, rather than fat.
After over two years of this, you do get very attuned to what your body needs, and what it doesn't. Not so important when you are young, but quite critical when you get older...

[AndStilliRise]

untakenname said:

exercise without the effort.

What's the point? Without effort there is no gain I am afraid.

[Mastodon2]

untakenname said:

it looks like exercise without the effort.

That's a contradiction. These "exercise without effort" gimmicks don't work because exercise by definition requires effort. Anything claiming to give you something for nothing is probably lying to you.